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Judge Gives OK For Eminem vs. Apple To Continue

Judge Gives OK For Eminem vs. Apple To Continue

by , 8:00 AM EDT, May 18th, 2004

Eminem and Apple Computer are officially still on a collision course. The AP is reporting today that a judge has given the go ahead to Eminem's lawsuit against Apple, TBWA/Chiat/Day, MTV, and Viacom, MTV's parent company, to proceed. US District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor threw two claims based on state law, one for unfair competition, and one for unjust enrichment, but allowed the rest of the suit to continue.

Initiated in February of this year, the lawsuit accuses Apple and Apple's ad agency, TBWA/Chiat/Day, of copyright infringement in an iPod commercial in which a 10-year old child raps the lyrics to "Lose Yourself," an Eminem song. In addition to its debut at Macworld San Francisco, the commercial was aired on MTV, thus involving MTV and Viacom.

As TMO reported in our original report, initial discussions focused on the use of the song and compensation for Eminem, according to court documents. "He had never endorsed a product," Howard Hertz, Eminem's lawyer, said. "They felt that using 'Lose Yourself' was in effect an endorsement of the product and it would be much more valuable than what they were talking about paying."

The complaint states Eminem was looking to be paid "possibly in excess of (US)$10 Million."

When talks broke down, a representative of Chiat/Day proposed the use of another Eminem song, "The Real Slim Shady," in the advertisement, according to the complaint. Eminem agreed to review the newly-proposed commercial and if the commercial was ultimately approved, Apple would pay Eminem US$300,000 to use the song.

Before the spot was even produced, Apple CEO Steve Jobs phoned Eminem's publisher, Joel Martin, stating that "Apple was too far into its original (ad) campaign to make any changes," the complaint stated. Jobs requested Eminem "rethink" his position and permit Apple to use 'Lose Yourself' in the TV spot, "or Apple would 'scrap' the entire ad campaign." Eminem and his publisher ended all discussions on an agreement after the Jobs call, Mr. Hertz said.

The complaint alleged that "at no time did Apple, Chiat/Day or MTV receive authorization or permission to record, reproduce, perform, transmit, copy, use or otherwise exploit the Composition for any purpose."

To prove its point, the complaint included a copy of an e-mail letter from Andrew Schafer, an employee of Chiat/Day, confirming to Mr. Martin his understanding that the rapper was not granting use of the song, 'Lose Yourself'.

"So to confirm, you guys are a definite "no" for the campaign as it is (The young boy rapping "Lose Yourself")," the letter stated.

Today's ruling from the judge was the first legal hurdle for Eminem to cross, setting the stage for discovery for both parties. From the AP report:

Eminem lawyer Howard Hertz said he was pleased that [Judge] Taylor allowed the case to go forward, even though she dismissed part of the case.

"We will be able to get the documentation and depositions to find out what happened and assess damages," Hertz said.

There's more information in today's AP report, as well as in our original reporting from February.

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View Name:RealityCheck -   Troll Posts: 392 Joined: 06 May 2004
Subject: Steve Jobs Arrogance To Cost Apple Shareholders Again
Close Name:Guest
Subject: iPod Mini in D12 video

Anyone notice that? Maybe Apple should countersue.

Close Name:jfbiii Posts: 109 Joined: 06 May 2004
Subject: Hey, if Apple thinks it's reasonable to patent transparency

...then it's tough for me to be sympathetic when lil white rappers want to sue because they used their song without permission. What's weird is that I can understand the disagreement on compensation. But when you're a company championing the free market system over music piracy, how do you make an error on a song where there's a dispute over payment already? The fact that there was any question seems like it would have inspired more caution to avoid an unauthorized use.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: sense of perspective

I think it is funny that someone who rips off the name of a candy for his own name because he hasn't got the imagination or time to think up something original is now suing someone else for supposedly implying that he endorses their product by using the lyrics from his song. I don't understand why Apple did it in the first place, and I don't understand how in the name of common sense M n' M thinks he should get $10M for this. The judge should have laughed this out of court.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: $10 Million?

It also seems odd to me that if Eminem was willing to settle for $300K with an alternative song being used, that his "Lose Yourself" song could somehow be worth several 30x more: he's just effectively named his price for selling out to commercialism at $300K, not $10M.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: He should be thankful apple included his garbage

he's reaching for $traws. his career is going downhill

Close Name:pyxl8 Posts: 171 Joined: 24 Dec 2003
Subject: Eminem

The only people who will emerge winners are the lawyers. Eminem steals a candy's good name, then complains that a ten-year-old kid's bad imitation might be misconstrued as an endorsment? Sure somebody screwed up at Apple, but $10 million? No way... Apple will reach a settlement with them for much less.

Em's lawyers have to prove more than ill intent. Apple will counter that the ad was free publicity for his song and actually AIDED his career. Em's career was already damaged... can you say "duet with Elton John?"

As an earlier poster said, MANY music videos have featured iPods, and I don't see Apple getting upset and slamming lawsuits right and left.

Instead, let's get all iPod users to sue Eminem for being embarrassing and offensive to both black and white people with his stupid "poor me, I'm so oppressed" songs. Maybe that's why Apple could only get a ten-tear-old to appear in the video...it was too uncool for anyone older to still listen to this flash-in-the-pan corporate poser's music.

One more thing: did Em's record company refuse all profits from the uptick in sales of his music at the iTunes Music Store after the commercial aired? Yup, they were REALLY damaged by THAT sudden influx of cash, weren't they?!

(Case closed.)

-Ken P

Close Name:Guest
Subject: I didn't even understand the kid

I couldn't tell what the young boy was rapping to....it was so unclear.....I didn't even know it was Eminem. Obviously at 30, I'm too old for this stuff. lol

I got more of a kick out of the guy doing "I like big butts"....

I thought America had a law that states you can get away with anything in parody and not pay a cent?
If that's the case.....Apple's won already.
(If not Weird Al would be broke paying everyone!)


scoot.

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

Countersue for WHAT???

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

You are an idiot. You must think rap music as a whole is a flash in the pan. Eminem is the best rapper alive, possibly the best rapper ever. Emenim's lawyers had to prove copyright infringement, so stop talking out of your ass about ill intent. Funny your name would be Ken, you insane clown.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: OMG

what ever happened to fair use in this country.......... apple's commercial was either :30 or 1 min give apple a break and as for some of the other comments yes i love apple but i don't hate eminem even though i dont care for the music........

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