They got it from the Rolling Stones first album. We all know where Apple copied OSX..From ancient Egyption Hyrogrighics...hyrogrophobia..we all know that SJobs copy his turtle neck style from Tibetion Monkees...it is all copied from something..when is SJobs going to host SNL?

Yes, it is about time SJobs hosted SNL........

SmallTalk is not a networking technology, but a programming language create by Xerox's PARC. It is one of the original object oriented programming (OOP) languages, and is still considered to the "purest" OOP language.

P.S. I'd also like to see Steve Jobs host Saturday Night Live.

Thanks for the correction, Jimothy!

Bryan
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I always thought that rendezvous was a terrible networking name. I know what it implies, but it just didn't *sound* simple. OpenTalk is a better name, in my opinion.

Open Transport. So OpenTalk is a natural sort of "rounding up" of Apple's networking technologies. I like it too.

While it may sound logical, there is some old baggage being carried around by the Appletalk name. IT folks notoriously derided Appletalk for being "chatty" and slowing down networks. It was yet another excuse, and only loosely factual, for marginalizing Macintoshes in the workplace. My understanding was that "Rendezvous" was chosen to get away from the "talk" connotation.

So, now that Rendezvous is being changed to OpenTalk, will IT folks begin to try to make the connection once more? It'd be sad if they do since this is an implementation of a technology that is for all platforms, but that hasn't stopped the IT mob mentality from clamping down on technologies before...

Why not just call it ZeroConf and get it over with? Too geeky?

Calling it ZeroConf would cause confusion.

There'd be the protocol ZeroConf and also an implementation of that protocol also called ZeroConf - not a good idea. Protocols are specifications rather than actual software. But calling it OpenZeroConf or FreeZeroConf (like OpenBSD/FreeBSD) would work.

Nicely put, Id. Thanks for the post.

Bryan
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I'm somewhat surprised that Apple backed down on this issue. After all, Rendezvous is an everyday word. For example, consider the case of Microsoft vs. Lindows. Not only did Microsoft lose, but the judge went on to state that the word "Windows" could not be trademarked. The guys and gals at Apple probably thought the same way about the word "Rendezvous." It's not like it's a non-obvious word such as "Trinitron."

Also, I think Dean Lewis is right on the money about the connotations between AppleTalk and OpenTalk. When I first heard OpenTalk, I too immediately had thoughts of slowness and proprietary -- two things IT managers hate. In any case, I think the name OpenTalk is just too bland. How about something with a bit more zest such as NetNow!, Intellinet, MacMariner...

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IAfter all, Rendezvous is an everyday word.

I commented in the original article about what TIBCO Rendezvous actually did and why Apple should settle (follow TMO's link in the article).

Basically things have moved on significantly for Apple since the law suits and the importance of settling has become even higher. With the PM G5, XServe G5 and XGrid set to propel Apple far into the HPC (High Performance Computing) market, with the Big Mac and Mach 5 supercomputers, it begs the question where is the market for these machines. So far it has been educational and military establishments investing in these set-ups. The other market than can afford these sort of machines and justify them from an economic perspective? The Finance sector.

The finance sector and in particular investment banks (e.g. Goldman Sachs, J P Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanely, UBS, Deutsche Bank etc., etc.) already spend millions on computer hardware and are investing in Blade Servers and clusters to do their financial calculations. The more they can do more quickly, the more they can trade and the more money they can make. What do all these companies have in common? They are all customers of TIBCO Rendezvous.

They all use TIBCO Rendezvous for delivering real time market data (share prices, foreign exchange rates, prices for everything from frozen orange juice to weather derivatives).

So if you want to do more financial calculations more quickly what do you do? Turn to HPC alternatives. The best price / performance? Well according to Virginia Tech, the US Army's contractors, etc., well its a cluster of Apple G5's. $5m is a big budget but not an outrageous one for the companies above. Unfortunately for Apple, the financial calculations require real time prices for them to be useful, which means that TIBCO Rendezvous needs to be ported to Mac OS X, which means that the importance of settling this lawsuit had become a lot more vital since the success of the G5.

Sanj

You might want to look here: http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/mls/blogView?showComments=true&entry=3267885830. OpenTalk's been used by Cincom's (formerly ParcPlace's)