Wish one of them was mine ....

You just know the heat from the G5 will do a number on the LCD screen, and who knows what other problems that earlier adopters always face with Apple products. But as the say play with the bull (RDF) and you'll get the horns.

As they say? Who talks like that?

You Troll

As usual, RC is being just RC. Can we just make him disappear?

first pull your head out of it's ass.

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RealityCheck wrote:
You just know the heat from the G5 will do a number on the LCD screen, and who knows what other problems that earlier adopters always face with Apple products. But as the say play with the bull (RDF) and you'll get the horns.

Ummm... Yeah....

Like the engineers didn't actually think about that. It takes somebody as smart and tech-savvy as RC to point it out!

. . . even you wouldn't fly on it. Hell, even little Billie Gates wouldn't fly on it.

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Guest wrote:
As they say? Who talks like that?

The bull/horns thing? That would be Paul Gleason. He's said it twice now:
http://tinyurl.com/42xyd
http://tinyurl.com/3vbmh

Reality Check is really just a closet porno fan who can't control his urges. Thus he resorts to internet postings laced with suggestive terms like "hot", "face", "horns" etc.

It's not really about his endless anti-Mac attacks. That's just cover for a sick loser getting his rocks off the only way he can.

RC - get help. You need it.

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Anonymous wrote:
Reality Check is really just a closet porno fan who can't control his urges. Thus he resorts to internet postings laced with suggestive terms like "hot", "face", "horns" etc.
It's not really about his endless anti-Mac attacks. That's just cover for a sick loser getting his rocks off the only way he can.
RC - get help. You need it.

Two things:
1. For the love of all things, keep it clean here. Regardless of how wrong it is, its offensive and childish, and you dont know who's reading this site.
2. Since DT isn't up yet, I'll just use his ready made RC response:

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DawnTreader wrote:
As evidenced above and similar to the way a cow chews its own cud, forum trolls take in source data such as news reports and spit it back out in unrecognizable forms that are unseemly to the viewer.

Please ignore the trolls. They thrive only on their own regurgitation. Like cows produce the polluting gas methane as the regurgitated food passes out of their system, the product of a troll’s regurgitation is at least equally unpleasant and surpasses the impact of a cow’s gas production in polluting the environment.

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RealityCheck wrote:
But as the say play with the bull (RDF) and you'll get the horns.

More like "Read what the bull (RDF) posts, step in the bulls**t."

Don't laugh but according to theRegister the UKs warships complete with ICBMs will be controlled by Windows. NB not just the admin systems the command and control stuff. Needless to say the computer experts suggested a variant of one of the Unix systems.

Tacitus

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Paul Thurrott (a.k.a. R. C. Gumby) wrote:
You just know the heat from the G5 will do a number on the LCD screen, and who knows what other problems that earlier adopters always face with Apple products. But as the say play with the bull (RDF) and you'll get the horns.

STFU, the iMac G5 would'nt have been shown if the possibility of heat damage was even close to …erm, reality in the first place. There are cooling fans in it anyway.

Paul, you are truly useless. go the FSCK away! :anger:

-PontiMac X

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AFCdtLoeb wrote:

Two things:
1. For the love of all things, keep it clean here. Regardless of how wrong it is, its offensive and childish, and you dont know who's reading this site.
2. Since DT isn't up yet, I'll just use his ready made RC response:

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DawnTreader wrote:
As evidenced above and similar to the way a cow chews its own cud, forum trolls take in source data such as news reports and spit it back out in unrecognizable forms that are unseemly to the viewer.

Please ignore the trolls. They thrive only on their own regurgitation. Like cows produce the polluting gas methane as the regurgitated food passes out of their system, the product of a troll’s regurgitation is at least equally unpleasant and surpasses the impact of a cow’s gas production in polluting the environment.

Thank you, AFCdtLoeb

Everyone:

Please don't feed the trolls. Personal attacks don't help anyone.

YAAAAAAAAAwn!

I STILL wish one of those were mine.

Seems to me the downside of this "success" is that you have a lot of people who are going to end up with iMacs choking on 256mb of memory. Maybe there's a memory upgrade offered when you make the purchase (I didn't try, so I don't know)? I thought it was pretty dumb of Apple to think that hitting a low "price point" was more important than offering a truly usable configuration. Now it seems kind of sad to think that lots of folks' first impression of a Mac (assuming these Amazon buyers are mostly "first timers") will be that it's kind of slow.

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avPaul wrote:
Seems to me the downside of this "success" is that you have a lot of people who are going to end up with iMacs choking on 256mb of memory. Maybe there's a memory upgrade offered when you make the purchase (I didn't try, so I don't know)? I thought it was pretty dumb of Apple to think that hitting a low "price point" was more important than offering a truly usable configuration. Now it seems kind of sad to think that lots of folks' first impression of a Mac (assuming these Amazon buyers are mostly "first timers") will be that it's kind of slow.

Yes and no. I wouldn't buy the G5 iMac with less than 512 MB of RAM. I'd probably add up to 1 gig. But most users who need more RAM out of the box I would think are apt to add it.

I do agree Apple should ship the computers with a minimum of 512. Let's see what happens with the first refresh. I's also like to see a 128 MB option on the graphics card.

:p

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avPaul wrote:
....Now it seems kind of sad to think that lots of folks' first impression of a Mac (assuming these Amazon buyers are mostly "first timers") will be that it's kind of slow....

Really, its a Mac. We do our homework when we buy a computer, and we all know its a little anemic in the RAM department, and we buy accordingly. Nobody is going to buy a $1,700+ iMac without knowing exactly what they're in need of.

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avPaul wrote:
Seems to me the downside of this "success" is that you have a lot of people who are going to end up with iMacs choking on 256mb of memory. Maybe there's a memory upgrade offered when you make the purchase (I didn't try, so I don't know)? I thought it was pretty dumb of Apple to think that hitting a low "price point" was more important than offering a truly usable configuration. Now it seems kind of sad to think that lots of folks' first impression of a Mac (assuming these Amazon buyers are mostly "first timers") will be that it's kind of slow.

I don't know, PC companies have been doing this for years and it has worked well for them. Dell sells the heck out of their $499 boxes, but if you look at the specs, it is almost a given that the end user will need to either a) purchase an upgrade before it ships, or b) upgrade the box once they get it home. Many of us on here complain that Apple does not give the consumer a choice (a'la the great graphics card debate), that Apple's RAM prices are outrageous (which they are), or that Apple isn't growing its marketshare fast enough. If Apple bundled the machine with 512, I doubt few would complain about THAT, but the requisite INCREASE in price would draw critics. Both of my macs have 1 GB and I may upgrade my PB to 2 in the future, but if Apple made 1 or 2 GB a STANDARD, the outcry would be deafening from people complaining that "Apple didn't give me a choice" or "Apple's machines are too expensive." Let's face it, the iMac is aimed at the "mediocre middle". Many could get by on 256 MB, though I agree, not to the full potential of the iMac hardware or Apple iLife suite. Do I think that apple should be more like Dell? When it comes to hardware and software design, ABSOLUTELY NOT (DISCLAIMER: I was both an Apple and Dell Certified technician in a previous life. Dell makes a quality piece of hardware...for a Wintel machine). When it comes to sales and marketing though, it wouldn't hurt Apple to take a page from Dell's book. Get as many of the machines out there as possible. Give people the option to up the RAM on BTO models, but showcase the EASE of upgrading yourself. Then maybe we'll see continuing profits, increased marketshare, and many more years of innovative, fun computers from Apple.

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AFCdtLoeb wrote:
We do our homework when we buy a computer, and we all know its a little anemic in the RAM department, and we buy accordingly. Nobody is going to buy a $1,700+ iMac without knowing exactly what they're in need of.

One would certainly hope so ...

It doesn't appear that you can purchase the iMac with a memory upgrade through Amazon, though. Unless there's some big advantage to buying an iMac through Amazon (there isn't, as far as I know) I'm inclined to think that these aren't your typical Mac buyers but first-timers who've reached this particular buying decision via their iPod experience. (Aren't these the people Apple was hoping to attract with the new iMac?)

Assuming they are first-timers, the question is then whether or not this "RAM anemia" will make for a less than great first impression. The 256mb base configuration was a calculated risk on Apple's part. Maybe they got it right (it wouldn't be the first time) but it seems a little too anemic to me.

Its expandable for a reason: Lower price/cost, and CHOICE!!! Not enough...BUY SOME MORE. If your to cheap...buy a dell/winblows and suffer.

RC commented: You just know the heat from the G5 will do a number on the LCD screen, and who knows what other problems that earlier adopters always face with Apple products. But as the say play with the bull (RDF) and you'll get the horns.

I bet RC that you are in line for the next WinBlows upgrade at midnight at CompUSA! You talk about leading edge Mac products and being gored. Sure the products are improved like for example the iPod. Greater storage and better battery. But this is the way of the technology beast. One minute you have a leading edge machine the next you have a door stop. This is really true in the PC world. All it takes is a upgrade of Windows to out date your machine.

Sure you have the same issues with Macs. However, you do see people use their Macs longer than PCs. Sure PCs might be cheaper, but the life span is shorter on the current operating system. Microsoft plays this game too no additional security for Win98, WinNT, or Win2K too bad you lose.

When I choose a system I look at: what I want to do with the system, how long it will work, how secure the system is going to be, what software is available. I bet the majority of people are still running the operating system that came with their system. With Mac OS X the upgrade path is very easy.