82%?! Holy mother of Pearl!!!!

…my credit card is in hand and ready. Oh, and you can also bring on the lower capacity flash-based Apple players (iChips? microPods?), I'm sure there are legions waiting for those sub $100 players as well.

Question: how are they going to fit a click wheel on increasingly tiny players as well as a decent size screen?

Funny, that we're not seeing Reality Check's comments on this.

> Question: how are they going to fit a click wheel on increasingly tiny
> players as well as a decent size screen?

My guess:

Apple flash players won't be (much) smaller than Mini's, just thinner.

I bet market research shows that if something is smaller than a credit card, people start to lose them. Probably there is also a point of diminishing returns on usability (big fingers and all that).

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Funny, that we're not seeing Reality Check's comments on this.

Do these numbers incldue video players? Phones that play MP3? Palms?

Name another hard drive based music player! Can't? That's because they're no comparison to the iPod.

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Do these numbers incldue video players? Phones that play MP3? Palms?

Name another hard drive based music player! Can't? That's because they're no comparison to the iPod.

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Funny, that we're not seeing Reality Check's comments on this.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-5535370-1.html?tag=cnetfd.sd

Could this be the iPods undoing?

Maybe in about a year from now. Cell phones seem to be the more logical vector to assimilate these peripheral technologies like PDAs, cameras, etc.

And all the iPod fans shuddered at the thought.

Nope.

I'd be happy if they made a cell phone that worked like a phone, only a phone, and they can shove the rest of the "features" where the sun don't shine.

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http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-5535370-1.html?tag=cnetfd.sd

Could this be the iPods undoing?

Maybe in about a year from now. Cell phones seem to be the more logical vector to assimilate these peripheral technologies like PDAs, cameras, etc.

And all the iPod fans shuddered at the thought.

"Whoo! $500 cell phones! Yeah, those'll take right off!"

I bought my wife one, a Treo 600, because she is deaf and could use it for email communication. The full keyboard makes it easier to compose messages, than trying to wrestle with the standard phone keypad found on most cell phones. With the cell phone feature we thought it a better deal than Blackberry. Actually the phone had a rebate at the time and the total cost was not much more than higher end cell phone.

However, this summer she had a cochlear implant, this unit bypasses her damaged inner ear and directly stimulates the audio nerve. She has regained over 50% of her hearing! http://www.cochlearamericas.com/

AyaSofya, nice to hear about the positive news concerning the wife.

oharag

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http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-5535370-1.html?tag=cnetfd.sd

Could this be the iPods undoing?

Maybe in about a year from now. Cell phones seem to be the more logical vector to assimilate these peripheral technologies like PDAs, cameras, etc.

And all the iPod fans shuddered at the thought.

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However, this summer she had a cochlear implant, this unit bypasses her damaged inner ear and directly stimulates the audio nerve. She has regained over 50% of her hearing! http://www.cochlearamericas.com/

iRiver make *much* better hdd mp3 players than apple's ipod.

The iHP140 - a 40GB player, plays ogg vorbis files, builtin fm tuner, builtin recorder, mounts directly as usb mass storage... the benefits go on an on.

And when I bought my iRiver, it was about $200AU cheaper than the same sized iPod, unbelievable!

I've read some blog and news that Apple is contacting one chipmaker, a competitor of current chipmaker.
And Apple is ready to introduce flas memory player by the end of this year.
Could it be true?

I've heard the same thing.
That'll cannivalize iPod, mini, and photo.

Flash based iPod will not cannabilize the other iPod because those going for flash based are casual buyers who do not buy much songs. Whereas those who have bought iPod tend to own/buy many songs. They are two separate market segment.

The market share figures are confusing me. SJ reported during the last quarter results that iPod has 92% of hdd based and 65% of all music players. Why this article said is 82% and 42%, are those figures for the whole year and SJ is talking about Q4 04 quarter only?

I guess the MP3 market is just started market, so that there isn't much information that we can really rely on.
Even when we can get projections about the whole MP3 market, we can't get trustful data for all kinds...
Now, we can listen to MP3 music on our cell phone, and some cell phone mfrs have come up with HDD and memory card slot on cell phones. If we get long-life batteries for our cell phone, we no longer need MP3 player unless we need to store some data.

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... Now, we can listen to MP3 music on our cell phone, and some cell phone mfrs have come up with HDD and memory card slot on cell phones. If we get long-life batteries for our cell phone, we no longer need MP3 player unless we need to store some data.

I can't believe apple has so many market shares

ahhhh help I'm doing research for my marketing course. Where can i find all the market share levels for mp3 players?!?