Woz giving Jobs credit: "...a lot of it came from Steve's head anyway."

Both are quite brilliant, but in very different ways. Wozniak's remarkable skills were much more obvious, I suppose, but Steve Jobs was -- and is -- the one true great visionary of the personal computer industry. Jobs has been wrong almost as much as he has been right, but that comes with the territory, no?

"When all things are considered, Apple computers are "very reasonably priced or even lower priced" than PCs, said Wozniak." Agreed.

"Wozniak said Apple is the best bar none at developing technology that "fits how a human being is and thinks" That is why I love

It appears Apple has given up the "Think Different" concept, and is acting like just another huge corporation.

A downsizing of Apple call centers is expected to follow the restructuring of AppleCare, as the company continues to outsource its customer support to locations in India, Holland and the United Kingdom.

I guess Apple likes Americans to buy their computers, but don't like employing them.

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It appears Apple has given up the "Think Different" concept, and is acting like just another huge corporation.

A downsizing of Apple call centers is expected to follow the restructuring of AppleCare, as the company continues to outsource its customer support to locations in India, Holland and the United Kingdom.

I guess Apple likes Americans to buy their computers, but don't like employing them.

You sir (or mame) are a goof ball!

Is that your best example of Apple not Thinnking Different? A "Rumor" that call centers might be reduced? Do you know how many of Apple's over 10K employees are US citizens? Do you know how their AppleCare program is structured? Do you know anything or are just a blow hard?

Why not look at how Apple actually does Think Different? How about almost single-handedly creating wireless networking that the whole industry now utilizes? How about almost single-handedly creating digital video editing we can all use? How about almost single-handedly creating a legal digital media service and mass market digital media players? How about single-handedly bringing the art of retailing to an entirely new level?

On and on. The innovations in technology and business where Apple does indeed Think Different keep on rolling.

Insulting someone by calling them a "goofball" and a blow hard doesn't help you make a point. It just makes you look rude.

Think different: be polite!

Calling somebody a goofball is actually refreshing.

A lot of people get their panties twisted on the internet. Profanity often ensues.

Moo

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Insulting someone by calling them a "goofball" and a blow hard doesn't help you make a point. It just makes you look rude.

How superior of you!

Let's make all communication bland and emotionless. Let's be endrogenous too! Right, Pat?

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Insulting someone by calling them a "goofball" and a blow hard doesn't help you make a point. It just makes you look rude.

Think different: be polite!

So, saying that the poster "looks rude" is okay but him/her calling someone a "goffball" or "blow hard" is not? Sounds hypocritical to me.

Endrogenous: originating or produced within an organism, a tissue, or a cell: endogenous secretions. I suppose that does cover all of us.

Perhaps you meant androgynous? Sheesh. Dope.

Dope?! How rude! Heh.

While we're on the subject of "goofballs" & such like I was wondering does anybody know whatever happened to all the "oddballs" out there? You just don't hear about oddballs these days. Have the goofball community taken over where the oddballs left off??

:p

Endrogynous is also spelled "endrogenous", so it was a mistake of an "e" instead of an "a". Big deal.

Odd ball ;-> (does that mean you have just one, Pat)?

...making up your own words? Dope.

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Endrogynous is also spelled "endrogenous", so it was a mistake of an "e" instead of an "a". Big deal.

Odd ball ;-> (does that mean you have just one, Pat)?

You are an idiot.

back to it kids

...count me in ...except I'm not very androgynous.

I just hope Apple makes some headway in Mac's market share. It's a great product. I use both at work, a Mac at home. Hope I never see the day when Microsoft is the only operating system I have a choice of working with. So much seems to be riding on the iPod right now (wish I had one of those too!), while the Mac's market share shrinks (by last account). It scares me. I'd hate to have to be doing security and virus updates all the time at home too.

And it does seem to me that Apple does do the R&D for the rest of the industry, especially when it comes to home computers.

Hank

Hi Hank

Actually Apple is gaining market share in the targetted segments (creatives, pro-consumers, and education). They are losing overall PC marketshare, mainly because Apple do not compete in the low end PC segment.

Low end PC segment comprises 'dumb terminals', enterprise segment and PCs sold in Asia Pacific and third world countries - I estimate this to be about 80% of the overall PC market.

So, for Apple to just hold on to the current overall PC market share, its market share in the targetted segments has to grow 5 times more than the overall PC market growth. This is very hard. As such, I would expect Apple's overall market share to continue declining. Is not scary at all so long Apple remains profitable and gains market share in targetted segments.

Caveat: My figure may not be accurate but the conclusion is the same.

I believe the number is 70 percent... but, as you said, "the conclusion is the same."

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Actually Apple is gaining market share in the targetted segments (creatives, pro-consumers, and education). They are losing overall PC marketshare, mainly because Apple do not compete in the low end PC segment.

I believe you, but would you mind letting us know where you got that statistic from? Maybe something to beat my boss over the head with

thanx