I love my iPod, but is anyone going to say the emperor has no cloths on this thing. It is lame. I expected more from Apple. Its the only player I know wiht no screen. In stead of catching up with features like FM tuners, Apple is going backwards.

I check prices and there are otehr better 512MB and 1G players for almost the same price. They aren't under cutting anyone.

It is stupid!

Yeah, watch Apple sell a million of these "stupid" items.

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Yeah, watch Apple sell a million of these "stupid" items.

actually, initial estimates put expected sales of the shuffle somewhere in the range of 6-7 million units in 2005...

First people demand an low-end device from Apple.
Apple produces it, miraculously perserving Apple flair.
Then they want Apple to undercut the price.

Just go ahead and say it:

"And it's not expandable!"

I am now going to copy-paste this post in a Mac mini thread...

I went to PriceWatch.com and found the lowest price for a 512MB Muvo to be $123.
I went to BestBuy.com and found the lowest priced MP3 player (256MB and greater) to be $130.

The iPod Shuffle is very price competitive.
You can argue about features (or lack thereof) all day long.

The Shuffle will sell like hotcakes to:
1. People buuying their second iPod. The Shuffle for the gym, walking, running. $99 or $149 is nothing for most of the population of the US or the EU or Japan or Australia.
2. People buying their child's first player. The Shuffle is cheaper (than a "real" iPod), and more rugged. So, if the kid drops it, it is OK. If the kid loses it, it is not OK, but it only cost Mom and Dad $99.

,dave

i really dislike the screenless design of the new ipod shuffle and wouldnt be caught dead buying one of those things for the fact that it doesnt even use a hard drive... 1 gb isnt going to get many people more than 25 cds onto it and without a screen what is the point of putting that much music onto it? i would much rather just spen $200 more on a 20gb and have a screen to see what im listening to.

"Although I am the center of the universe, successful products are designed for a specific market, which may not necessarily mean ME."

"Although I am the center of the universe, successful products are designed for a specific market, which may not necessarily mean ME."

"Although I am the center of the universe, successful products ..."

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i really dislike the screenless design of the new ipod shuffle and wouldnt be caught dead buying one of those things for the fact that it doesnt even use a hard drive... 1 gb isnt going to get many people more than 25 cds onto it and without a screen what is the point of putting that much music onto it? i would much rather just spen $200 more on a 20gb and have a screen to see what im listening to.

And you're the only person that might buy an iPod Shuffle. Arrogance is not very becoming.

Also, what the h*ll does "this thing is gay" mean? Are you a homophobe, as well as arrogant and self-centered?

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i really dislike the screenless design of the new ipod shuffle and wouldnt be caught dead buying one of those things for the fact that it doesnt even use a hard drive... 1 gb isnt going to get many people more than 25 cds onto it and without a screen what is the point of putting that much music onto it? i would much rather just spen $200 more on a 20gb and have a screen to see what im listening to.

Well, then, it should appeal to the gay community, n'est ce pas?

Seriously, though, what a silly thing to say about the lack of a HD! So many people argued that Apple needed a solid state mp3 player specifically for people who do vigorous activity. They have it out now, and the complaint is that it's solid state Listen to Jobs's commentary in the keynote: they are going after the flash portion of the market. What better way to do that than with a flash player?

If you want a HD, get a mini. An iPod mini, I mean.

Below is the listed prices from Creative website:

256 MBytes; $99
512 MBytes: $129 (shuffle is $99)
1 GBytes: $199 (shuffle is $149)