Well done! You beat everyone.

Again, $70 from the education store. Just before I graduate

Note, Tiger only comes on DVD, no CD version is currently available.

I hope they announce new PowerMacs are coming. To help compliment this. I've been saving and am ready to buy. Of course, you should never be in a rush to spend money, but my G4 is starting to show some grey.

Anybody have any idea how I can still qualify for the free upgrade, or am I SOL?

SO how are all those G3 - Non-DVD drive people going to get Tiger? Also, will Tiger run differently (be stripped down) on the G3, like iPhoto?

You have to fill out a pdf form and pay an extra $10, but it is available.

http://images.apple.com/macosx/pdf/tigermediaexchange.pdf

I'll wait till the "beta phase" is over. Got burned the last couple of OSX releases, and jumped in right away. Apple seems to use us as a way to get the bugs out. When "point-one" comes out, I'm in!

I'm happy to see the Family Pack is available.

Since Amazon took away the rebate for family packs (and didn't have it available for pre-order) some people were starting to think they weren't going to sell it. Glad to see that was wrong.

As for Powermacs, NAB starts next Monday. I have a hard time believing that Apple will be showing off Final Cut Pro 5 on year old machines. My bet is you'll hear about new Powermacs from there.

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You have to fill out a pdf form and pay an extra $10, but it is available.

http://images.apple.com/macosx/pdf/tigermediaexchange.pdf

Call apple and cancel your order. They won't care. Order it after tiger ships.

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Anybody have any idea how I can still qualify for the free upgrade, or am I SOL?

You have to have purchased TODAY or later. What tripe. I purchased April 2 so I guess I have to pay full price.

Come on Apple, give purchasers 14 days or something or at the very least, give recent purchasers a serious discount to upgrade.

Open your wallets and pay to disable your pitiful Macs. Read about the reality check a Mac fanatic got he made OS X updates:

http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/41957.html

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You have to have purchased TODAY or later. What tripe. I purchased April 2 so I guess I have to pay full price.

Come on Apple, give purchasers 14 days or something or at the very least, give recent purchasers a serious discount to upgrade.

It says it will run on a G3 with firewire... so launch the G3 in target disk mode connected to a Mac with a DVD drive and install that way. Save the $10 and keep the DVD media... Everyone has more than one mac right? lol

ooh, i want to get the edu discount, but i also want to buy it at a store on april 29th....decisions decisions

Best. Birthday. Present. Ever.

(Except for that time that Tanya Donelly called me "dreamy" without rolling her eyes. Long story that my lawyer advises against me telling.)

Sorry, I don't follow. How are they giving me 17 days? Because they're not actually shipping for 17 days?

I'm not saying they should extend the upgrade forever, but for people like me who just dropped 5 G's on a computer just over a week ago, it'd be a nice gesture to supply the upgrade for the cost of media.

If I at least got an upgrade discount though (say if they did it for purchasers within the last 14 days or something) I'd be happy.

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Not to be mean or anything, but they're actually giving you 17 days.

Really, I understand it sucks and I do feel sorry for you, but if you want 14 days on top of the 17 days then that's 31 days. Why stop there? They could just offer free upgrades to anyone who's bought a computer in the last 3 months...hey, why not 6?

Eventually they have to have some kind of cut-off date, even if it sucks for some people.

(You're totally right about a discount, though. They should offer 30% off if you've bought in the last month or something like that.)

...In case it came across that way.

RC, I was not aware your friends at MS has 'exchange' programs for their OS. They don't! Oh, do you mean $129 for an 'upgrade'? Full versions ship for 179-199 and up....? Seems that OSX is cheaper.

If you can get to an Apple Store, you're set. They do educational discounts there.

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I hope they announce new PowerMacs are coming. To help compliment this. I've been saving and am ready to buy. Of course, you should never be in a rush to spend money, but my G4 is starting to show some grey.

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donovan wrote:
You have to have purchased TODAY or later. What tripe. I purchased April 2 so I guess I have to pay full price.

Come on Apple, give purchasers 14 days or something or at the very least, give recent purchasers a serious discount to upgrade.

RC interesting read. He is of course saying he is somewhat pissed with certain things that he bought a Mac to AVOID suffering. Now I wonder what computer software combination he would be referring to that these irritations remind him of so clearly? Your argument is somewhat like saying you should became a nazi to avoid invading Poland. But then the re-writing of history is that one very distinctive skill of yours.
Spy

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donovan wrote:
I'm not saying they should extend the upgrade forever, but for people like me who just dropped 5 G's on a computer just over a week ago, it'd be a nice gesture to supply the upgrade for the cost of media.

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donovan wrote:
Sorry, I don't follow. How are they giving me 17 days? Because they're not actually shipping for 17 days?

Sorry for piling on but have to agree with others. As a registered user of the board how in the world did you not know Tiger was coming? If you knew it was coming then gripes such as this make no sense. You knew it was coming so why didn't you wait? Duh!

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donovan wrote:
You have to have purchased TODAY or later. What tripe. I purchased April 2 so I guess I have to pay full price.

Come on Apple, give purchasers 14 days or something or at the very least, give recent purchasers a serious discount to upgrade.

RC, your concern for all of the iLemmings here is touching, really. I guess it is time to switch to the PC, since we know upgrading to Longhorn (if and when it ships) will be a seamless experience.

Purchasing when I did was essential. I had no choice in the matter if I wanted to continue working. I'll leave it at that and mind your own.

I did know that Tiger was coming, but this is my first time purchasing around upgrade time. I figured they'd cut purchasers/loyal customers a little slack. Too bad.

And the fact I was able to purchase a PowerMac G5 rather than a Mac Mini does not make $129 any less money. Forgive me, but who the hell are you to know how easily I can or can't afford anything? People can save money can't they?

I guess now I've been here long enough now to know some people are awfully quick to judge.

"Open your wallets and pay to disable your pitiful Macs. Read about the reality check a Mac fanatic
got he made OS X updates: "

And here's a reality check for you:

Paul Lerhman wasn't talking about Tiger in that article. He's talking about OS X in general and how he personally doesn't like parts of it, and some problems upgrading to 10.3 caused for him. The relevence that article has to Tiger is absolutely zero. Try again.

I just bought my first Mac a couple of months ago and really am looking forward to Tiger. It amazes me how Apple manages to "build-in" all the functionality of the stuff I used to pay to have on Windows (such as Stardock's Object Desktop). My Mac just rules!

Anyway, the real question here is this...Windows sucks when it comes to upgrades...you're much better off just formatting and re-installing the OS from scratch. What is it like with OS X? When I buy Tiger in a couple of weeks, can I just upgrade the Panther I am running now? Is it better to just format and start over? In other words, should I begin backing up applications and data now (or at least trying to figure out how)?

I'm sorry if this isn't the right forum, but with all the discussion on Tiger, I thought maybe somebody might have some prior experience with Apple upgrades.

Thanks a bunch! Hehe, I'm no longer a non-posting Mac virgin!

I upgraded from Jaguar right to Panther without a hitch.

You'll probably save some disk space with a complete reformat/reinstall, but otherwise you shouldn't have too much problem. Maybe wait and see what others experiences are. Check back here and MacFixIt especially for frequent updates.

I personally will probably do a complete reformat/install, but that's just a mild OCD kicking in.

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I just bought my first Mac a couple of months ago and really am looking forward to Tiger. It amazes me how Apple manages to "build-in" all the functionality of the stuff I used to pay to have on Windows (such as Stardock's Object Desktop). My Mac just rules!

Anyway, the real question here is this...Windows sucks when it comes to upgrades...you're much better off just formatting and re-installing the OS from scratch. What is it like with OS X? When I buy Tiger in a couple of weeks, can I just upgrade the Panther I am running now? Is it better to just format and start over? In other words, should I begin backing up applications and data now (or at least trying to figure out how)?

I'm sorry if this isn't the right forum, but with all the discussion on Tiger, I thought maybe somebody might have some prior experience with Apple upgrades.

Thanks a bunch! Hehe, I'm no longer a non-posting Mac virgin!

No they dont. Dont tell someone that when its not true.

Dont belive me? Call and Apple store and ask if they give EDU discounts on software.

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If you can get to an Apple Store, you're set. They do educational discounts there.

I'm all excited about Tiger and getting a new PowerMac, I can't wait. But upgrading the CS suite is not on my list. I like the version I have and I really hate the fact that now you have to "activate" it. I wish software companies figured out a better wait to fight piracy.

Just ordered the Family Pack for $199. Since I have 5 Macs in the family it's going to cost me $40 per computer (well, add the sales tax & shipping) for a full OS. Not an "upgrade", not a stripped down "home" version" - a real, full OS for each computer. Can you let me know how much I would have to pay for the same thing from MS? We're talking 5 full copies of XP Pro. $40 per computer? Right.

Eye candy? Try looking at the comic book design of XP - you probably like that.

Bloatware? You don't see Apple needing to strip out parts of their OX for a "Home" version.

Bugs? Probably, but not near as many as you'll find in XP today, much less Longhorn. I will admit, however, that MS has found a way to reduce the number of bugs that ship in a new OS - they simply cut out major new features.

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And the fact I was able to purchase a PowerMac G5 rather than a Mac Mini does not make $129 any less money. Forgive me, but who the hell are you to know how easily I can or can't afford anything? People can save money can't they?

Hey RC, I have three words for you....Service Pack Two.

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Guest wrote:
RC interesting read. He is of course saying he is somewhat pissed with certain things that he bought a Mac to AVOID suffering. Now I wonder what computer software combination he would be referring to that these irritations remind him of so clearly? Your argument is somewhat like saying you should became a nazi to avoid invading Poland. But then the re-writing of history is that one very distinctive skill of yours.
Spy

.... so am I SOL?

"Guest", what are you? 13? One day you'll learn that emotion you may read into online is not actually present when it is posted. I'm in no way irrate as you might believe.

So I'm either ridiculously wealthy and $5000 is pocket change or I'm now dangerously in debt. There's no such thing as middle class apparently.

Again, mind your business. The kind of computer I can afford holds no relevance.

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donovan wrote:
And the fact I was able to purchase a PowerMac G5 rather than a Mac Mini does not make $129 any less money. Forgive me, but who the hell are you to know how easily I can or can't afford anything? People can save money can't they?

I know because you just said you bought a $5000 machine you dolt. If you can't afford it then you either put yourself seriously in dept when you could have bought cheaper or you are just as stupid as you sound.

LOL, you are so out of touch with reality, if you say that saving $5000 for top of the line tweeked-out G5 is in any way similar to someone hoping to be able to buy a stripped $500 mini with their 5 yr old monitor and keyboard/mouse. And then to say HEY GIMMME MY FREE $130 UPGRADE while stomping your feet, PLEASE!

Why is it that the people who can actually afford (yes that's you being able to afford) things are the ones who expect and usually do get things for free. Too bad this time.

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If you can get to an Apple Store, you're set. They do educational discounts there.

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PerfectIrony wrote:
I just bought my first Mac a couple of months ago and really am looking forward to Tiger. It amazes me how Apple manages to "build-in" all the functionality of the stuff I used to pay to have on Windows (such as Stardock's Object Desktop). My Mac just rules!

Anyway, the real question here is this...Windows sucks when it comes to upgrades...you're much better off just formatting and re-installing the OS from scratch. What is it like with OS X? When I buy Tiger in a couple of weeks, can I just upgrade the Panther I am running now? Is it better to just format and start over? In other words, should I begin backing up applications and data now (or at least trying to figure out how)?

I'm sorry if this isn't the right forum, but with all the discussion on Tiger, I thought maybe somebody might have some prior experience with Apple upgrades.

Thanks a bunch! Hehe, I'm no longer a non-posting Mac virgin!

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If you can get to an Apple Store, you're set. They do educational discounts there.

really? sweet

I thought it was only online. I shall venture to Old Orchard and wait with all the other silly heads to get our new OS, hopefully they have a midnight release thingy.

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aaronsullivan wrote:
If you can get to an Apple Store, you're set. They do educational discounts there.

really? sweet

I thought it was only online. I shall venture to Old Orchard and wait with all the other silly heads to get our new OS, hopefully they have a midnight release thingy.

Someone else here earlier claimed this wasn't true. I have no idea. I'd use the phone before you go anywhere.

Silly me. My peecee freaked out on me again and left out some chaacters.

RealityCheck

Just as initial rumours forecast: we get a DVD only release. For U.S. Apple Store purchasers, however, there's something called "media exchange" whereby one can swop back the install DVD for a set of CDs.

This seems totally ludicrous. Most of the PowerPC and iMac G3s that Apple have declared as being Tiger compatible do not have DVD drives.

So a whole swathe of would be Tiger users without DVD must first buy the DVD in order to buy the CDs.

What about someone with two machines (e.g. desk top and portable) one of which does not have DVD? How can one "return" the install DVD in order to obtain CDs for the older machine? Or can one then return the install CDs to get back the DVD?

Wouldn't it have made more sense to issue Tiger in the two formats, with an option of buying both DVD and CDs in one bundle?