Glad that some other companies came out in support of Apple. This should quiet down those who accuse Apple of "attacking their biggest fans."

I think Apple and others companies big and small have a right to keep unannouced products out of the news.

What happens to big companies eventually happens to small companies...

Posting the trade secrets, in a raw, unaltered form, is the difference between true journalists and bloggers.
Even if the case is not about what is a true journalist that goes to show how blogging is not up to the standards of journalism and is more prone to commit lapses of judgement.
Sites like this comment on what other news sources say about Macs and Apple quoting selected parts, never posting it in full, posting what other news sources have in fullness would be a violation of intellectual property laws (copyright, specifically).
Apple does have a right to protect their intellectual property, whether it is patents, copyrights, or trade secrets.

"a move that more clearly delineates this as a fight between Big Business and The Press"

Er, no it doesn't. This is a battle between legislated protections for trade secrets (which can apply to any body) and various websites a protected party believes is in violation of this law.

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"a move that more clearly delineates this as a fight between Big Business and The Press"

Er, no it doesn't. This is a battle between legislated protections for trade secrets (which can apply to any body) and various websites a protected party believes is in violation of this law.

Americans are a bunch of pu**ies. I cannot believe a bell hasn't gone off for anyone. The "big guys" are not looking to the best interests of people! When people start praising "yea let big business control and/or put limits on the press" or "yea, I'm glad they are telling me to be suspicious of people and report it" I really feel that we are spitting in the face of all the brave people that fought and died for freedom. You all should know, by your above posts and complicity, you are all a bunch of pu**ies and are responsible for what you get. Less freedom and more workplace pressure to run your lives.

I'm totally embarrassed by you all. And I wish that the mac press and this site in particular would have more balls and put out editorials in support of thinksecret and the 1st amendment. The reality is that these sites depend on apple's "good graces" and are too afraid to STAND THE HELL UP AND SPEAK THE F' UP because apple and steve "hissy fit" jobs my pull a Wiley on them as well.

Shame on you too. Speak the hell up now. If you don't no one else will.

Suggestion: This site and others in the mac community should get together and make a joint editorial on the issue that supports the 1st amendment (and one that doesn't pu**y-out and give some "awe apple we think youre so swell" feel to it that gives them an out. Then have everyone publish the same editorial on all the sites. Show some solidarity. Shoot back. Let them know this is wrong. You guys have so much more power than you know. You can turn this from a thing that Apple corporate is savvily sweeping under the table/radar to something that affects them enough that it will make thing think differently about what they are doing.

You say you want freedom... (maybe even freedom from abuse!)

Firstly, there's one wise one who said, 'Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged...' and 'Anyone who sins is a slave to sin...'.

Secondly, there's an older law than the so called 'first' amendment which says 'do not steal'. If the latter negates the former (which I have no idea - not being an American) then the latter is clearly wrong.

We seem to always hear people using these 'amendments' to justify wrongdoing; such people talk about "my" rights without regard for their "neighbour's" (and it's not only journalists who face this dilemna - if they choose to face it, that is).

You ask for freedom but yet keep on talking as if "I" have the right to do anything "I" like no matter who gets hurt in the process - and then have the hide to say that the law protects "me", the wrongdoer. That's backwards... not freedom. Selfishness is incompatible with true freedom.

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You say you want freedom... (maybe even freedom from abuse!)

Firstly, there's one wise one who said, 'Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged...' and 'Anyone who sins is a slave to sin...'.

Secondly, there's an older law than the so called 'first' amendment which says 'do not steal'. If the latter negates the former (which I have no idea - not being an American) then the latter is clearly wrong.

We seem to always hear people using these 'amendments' to justify wrongdoing; such people talk about "my" rights without regard for their "neighbour's" (and it's not only journalists who face this dilemna - if they choose to face it, that is).

You ask for freedom but yet keep on talking as if "I" have the right to do anything "I" like no matter who gets hurt in the process - and then have the hide to say that the law protects "me", the wrongdoer. That's backwards... not freedom. Selfishness is incompatible with true freedom.

You are an f'n retard. Infringement is not theft. It is infringement. That's why they have a whole seperate word for it. Tradesecrets are not tangible things, it's an intellectual property right. You are the kind of retard that actually buys into big-business' lame a$$ analogies about infringment being the same as me going in and stealing a chattle.

And if you don't know about the amendments, keep your pie hole shut you ignorant prick. The first 10 amendments are the bill of rights and they are FUNDAMENTAL freedoms. Freedoms that trump some corporate bs right to make up fake a$$ monopolies.

God, people of this world have all turned into frigg'n moronic imps. You make my skin crawl.