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Analyst Sees Slower Sales of Mac mini and High-End iPods

by , 5:20 PM EDT, May 17th, 2005

MarketWatch reported on Tuesday that Thomas Wiesel Partners analyst Kevin Hunt is telling clients that sales of the Mac mini and high-end iPods "have slowed down considerably."

Hunt wrote: ""Our checks suggest Mac Mini sales are somewhat slow, as consumers realize that price including monitor is no bargain." However, he continues to see strong demand for the G5 iMac, the new PowerBooks and the iPod mini and iPod shuffle. Hunt is maintaining his Peer Perform rating on the stock, with a range of US$26 to $38.

When requested, a Thomas Wiesel Partners media spokeswoman refused to provide the complete report to media outlets.


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View Name:Guest
Subject: Apple needs to decide what to do with the mini
View Name:Guest
Subject: Apple needs to decide what to do with the mini
View Name:Guest
Subject: Sorry for the double post
Close Name:Bookman Posts: 543 Joined: 22 Apr 2002
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In other news, today's top 40 hits won't be the top 40 hits of 2006. Every dog has his day.

View Name:Guest
Subject: Brilliant
View Name:Guest
Subject: Check Amazon's Top Sellers, Folks
View Name:Guest
Subject: Dumb
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Close Name:jhonka Posts: 77 Joined: 05 Sep 2003
Subject: wel...

I've pretty much tuned out analysts completely, because so many of them go off of nothing a lot of the time, it seems. And I agree with the person above who linked to the Amazon top sellers. The Mac has been able to sustain positions in the top ten on those lists for months now.

View Name:RealityCheck -   Troll Posts: 392 Joined: 06 May 2004
Subject: Mac Mini - The New Mac Cube
View Name:Guest
Subject: Great Link RC
Close Name:coaten Posts: 2971 Joined: 10 Oct 2001
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RealityCheck wrote:
The Mac mini is an underpowered overpriced nonupgradeable toy with a slow cheesy disk drive that fails with alarming frequency. Expect the Mac mini to be joining the Mac cube in the dustbin of Mac history. Check the facts:
http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/MacMini2.html


"For example, there is no Outlook Express for email, but Apple includes a program called Mail, which is like a stripped-down email client that can’t execute scripts or open attachments without user intervention"

This is a bad thing?

What a dumbass.

An Apple product reviewed by an MCSE. Whaddya expect? Might as well ask Mike Tyson to review the latest Germaine Greer book.

"In fact, it took our techs about fifteen minutes before we realized the unit itself was operating normally and it was the monitor that was not plugged in properly."

ROFL

View Name:Guest
Subject: Once again you prove nothing
View Name:Guest
Subject: http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/MacMini2.html"
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View Name:Guest
Subject: Is this satirical???
Close Name:coaten Posts: 2971 Joined: 10 Oct 2001
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Oh RC, I fell for that one. Now I realise. Silly sensitive me.

This guy's review is so cleverly written I failed to feel his tongue in my mouth, pressing ever so caressingly against my cheek.

I'm so embarassed that I missed it the first time.

He must love the Mac mini. Nobody could be so ignorant without realising it, unless he chooses to prefer to not know what he doesn't know.

I now take his work as a glowing endorsement.

Safari fails to render MSN properly? Oh, that's priceless.

ROFL.

Perhaps the Academy of Motion Arts and Science could get him to write the next opener for the Oscars?

Close Name:coaten Posts: 2971 Joined: 10 Oct 2001
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Guest wrote:
Jorge Lopez is a DeVry graduate with an MCSE certification and is currently the Chief Software Reviewer at Divisiontwo.com's Technology Insider.

/'nuff said


Yeah.

View Name:Guest
Subject: feel free to communicate with Kevin Hunt
Close Name:jacrav Posts: 268 Joined: 04 Jul 2001
Subject: Thanks RC :)

Very good, fun reading. This guy is hilarious. One good line, also, was: "Hold a Mini in one hand and four quarters in the other and tell me which one feels heavier. You could perform this experiment yourself at an Apple store." The seeming confusion of the mini's advertizing with the shuffle's is GOOD.
Also, spending most of his time emailing vbscripts to his buddies …
The whole thing is priceless !
Too bad many windows-using readers won't realize this is a hoax …

By the way, Happy (belated) Anniversary, RC. Already a whole year … time flies !

Close Name:les aptt Posts: 221 Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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Allow me to also extend my thanks to you, RC. The other Trolls both here and on the web at large would benefit (as would we all) from studying your posts. I know I have.

If nothing else RC, at least you know a good joke when you read it.

Close Name:Mace Posts: 9163 Joined: 07 Aug 2003
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Unit sale of iPod in 2002:

Q1: 125k
Q2: 57k
Q3: 54k

Hmm ... Apple should discontinue iPod, sale has been dropping.

Mac mini is being marketed like iPod. There is something not in place yet.

Close Name:Staggie Posts: 21 Joined: 06 May 2004
Subject: Even better.....

The review site also has a picture of the new Powerbook G5--it's fantastic!

http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/appleweek1.html

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Close Name:Biff Posts: 1479 Joined: 08 Apr 2004
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This analyst is so funny. I know its not scientific but I always like to judge how things are going by whats going on around me. My friend just bought an iPod photo and I know two people about to buy Mini's because they are sick of all the crap they have to put up with in Windows.

View Name:Guest
Subject: crap review
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Close Name:boodle Posts: 42 Joined: 13 Jun 2004
Subject: Son of Cube

The headless mac myth should die.

View Name:Guest
Subject: DivisionTwo IS SATERICAL
Close Name:metavurt Posts: 163 Joined: 16 Jun 2003
Subject: Funny, but still horribly written

Satire isn't supposed to be SO subtle as to confuse the reader. You're supposed to be able to get it. The other guy that writes about Apple stuff (Bennett), has a more firm grasp on how to do that.

Lopez writes in such a way that thru search engine finds, he sounds halfway serious.

Just 2 cents.

Close Name:coaten Posts: 2971 Joined: 10 Oct 2001
Subject: Re: feel free to communicate with Kevin Hunt

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Anonymous wrote:
Name: Kevin Hunt, CFA
Contact: khunt@tweisel.com - 617.488.4162

http://www.tweisel.com/twpds?__fwdtourl__=/research/ShowBio.jsp?id=166


OK...? So who is Kevin Hunt and why do we want to communicate with him?

Am I missing something?

Close Name:kenaustus Posts: 601 Joined: 27 Jun 2003
Subject: Apple's sales pattern

Look at any major new product from Apple and you'll see their typical sales pattern: A mad rush by a lot of people to get one as soon as possible with a strong backorder rapidly developing, followed by a decline to a "normal" sales rate. Apple uses this "normal" sales rate when committing to factory production and when the new product reaches this stable rate Apple is moving along at a very profitable pace.

All the "decline in sales" means is that the crazy initial rush has been taken care of and things are getting to a normal, profitable level.

RC has trouble understanding this because Dull is incapable of designing a new product that can generate the crazy initial rush - even when they try to copy Apple.

Close Name:coaten Posts: 2971 Joined: 10 Oct 2001
Subject: Re: feel free to communicate with Kevin Hunt

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coaten wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Name: Kevin Hunt, CFA
Contact: khunt@tweisel.com - 617.488.4162

http://www.tweisel.com/twpds?__fwdtourl__=/research/ShowBio.jsp?id=166


OK...? So who is Kevin Hunt and why do we want to communicate with him?

Am I missing something?


Oh

RC's post and the parody site he linked us to so effectively hijacked this thread that I clearly forgot how this topic started.

Sorry Mr Hunt, the organ grinder got upstaged by the monkey.

View Name:Guest
Subject: My expereince with Mac mini potential purchase
Close Name:NoVaMac Posts: 121 Joined: 16 Mar 2004
Subject: Hey coward "guest"

You "repost" others comments and add your own jibberish to them. How creative of you! But after a few it gets dull. So, you feel afraid of the mac so you lash out and attack it. You fear what you don't understand, which is reason, and intellegence. You SUCK! get an ibook!! then some new clothes, a haircut, and take a bath dude. Then hang out at coffee shops, you MAY even get that first girlfriend...and an ilife to boot.
JOIN US...OR DIE!!!

View Name:Guest
Subject: reality check is in a world of his own.
Close Name:coaten Posts: 2971 Joined: 10 Oct 2001
Subject:

Hello? Forum mod?

I think this is getting out of hand, if you don't mind me saying so.

Close Name:Intruder -   TMO Mac Specialist Posts: 2926 Joined: 07 Jul 2004
Subject: Re: My expereince with Mac mini potential purchase

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Anonymous wrote:
I am looking for a new mac, because the old ones I have are before osx. I figure I would look at the mini since it is cheaper. I went to best buy and checked it out. Why does it not have a dvd burner or at least an option to upgrade it. This blows my mind. I can't see me buying a computer without the ability to upgrade. How do you ad pci cards, dvd-rw, etc. Also the mouse is horrible. I need my 2 button mouse. They really messed up here because most people do know how to upgrade their computers now. My mom even added a second hard drive the other day and a dvd burner. I guess I will try to find a cheap g5 somewhere.


Are you serious?

The mini can come with a DVD burner. It is an option available thru the Apple store. Best Buy just may not carry that option.

Didn't like the mouse that comes with the Mini???? There IS NO mouse that comes with the Mini. Use whatever mouse you want.

It was not designed to be upgradable with regards to PCI cards and such. It was never advertised to be.

View Name:Guest
Subject: Re: Hey coward "guest"
View Name:Guest
Subject: Apples poor marketing
Close Name:Intruder -   TMO Mac Specialist Posts: 2926 Joined: 07 Jul 2004
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Actually, lots of people go to Apple.com. It is one of the most visited sites on the 'net. All of the Apple users in the world can't account for that.

And where, exactly, do you buy Dells?

I agree that:
1) Best Buy employees are not exactly the best ones to pick to demonstrate the computer. I have little trust for those who work retail on commission (no offense intended to those in retail)
2) Apple needs to better market their hardware, especially the Mini, if they want to expand. That is assuming, of course, that they intend to expand their market.

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