Apple is dead! The move to Intel proved it, the ipod re-proved and if RC says that Apple stock will be worthless, then who are we as a user base to contradict his "vision"?

this is just another sign that Apple should close down and give the $ back to investors.

I give apple another 6months before it starts selling XP with an Apple on it.

GOD BLESS AMERIKKKA!

This extra piece of news effectively confirms the rumors that Steve Jobs' true intention is tho attack Microsoft. I hope Jobs succeeds!

SJ is after no one. He merely wants to build a build-to-last company, like GE and P&G, which will be around after more than a century.

This news give support to my suspicion (based mainly on Neo articles published on Macsimum) that Apple plans to go BIG on Wireless Broadband.

Range of WiMax - 30 miles (someone please verify).

My vision:

Apple retail stores become Wireless Broadband hotspots with 30 miles radius .

iPods, laptops and desktops will have WiMax chips , and hence can access Internet practically everywhere in US:oh:. Except for some remote areas.

VOIP phone or iPod chat or Mac micro capable of teleconferencing. Welcome to the world of portable teleconferencing.

Apple will not go it alone. So far they have partnered Motorola, now Intel and Nokia. I expect it won't be long, Sun, Boeing and many others will jointly announced the Wireless Broadband initiative.

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This is all part of a plan devised by Larry Ellison and Steve Jobs to attack Microsoft. The Intel switch had nothing to do with processor performance, and everything to do with putting Apple in strategic position to implement their plan.

The Nokia Tablet, the Apple patent granted on May 10th which Steve Jobs himself has his name on as an inventor, and now this "surprise" announcement about Apple/Nokia and Apple Safari browsers are only more pieces of their plan emerging. The problem is, Bill Gates knows PRECISELY what they intend to do.

I worked with a journalist who investigated reports that Jobs was planning to do this - a journalist who was ordered not to talk.

This is about "Unified Web browsers", "Universal Communications Platforms", "Multimedia Paper", "Copier Print Operating Systems", faxes that lets you send & receive fully functional web pages with clickable links and Java applets, video recorders that rival TiVo, extremely powerful new cell technology, new technologies for interfacing with home networks, and at least 4 dozen radically novel inventions. I saw some of them last summer.

The "question" is, and inquiring minds would love to know (...Thank you Mssrs. Jobs & Ellison), is whether the inventor behind all of the technologies you are relying on to attack Bill Gates, is secretly working for you or whether you stole his inventions the way Bill Gates did before you got to it yourselves? Bill fired Nathan Myhrvold in 1999 so that he could take credit for what he planned to "invent", and thus began Microsoft's spate of new found inventiveness in the post-Myhrvold era. The problem was, Bill waffled and wasn't as quick as Ellison and Jobs.

We saw something else that might concern you Mr. Jobs: we saw inventions specifically crafted for attacking Apple's market grip on the Ipod. We also saw rather intersting (portions) of inventions geared at attacking Google (though we were told that "Sergei Brin is a great guy and no one will gets their hands on this Google stuff")

This is about to be revealed to the public, especially given Congress's current efforts to reform patent law, and the re-trial of the Eolas-906 case -- events that will make it difficult for all of you to continue "gaming" the press, the law, and worst of all the customers who pay good money for your products and stock.

Shame on ALL of you. Shame on you for trying to control the press; shame on Bill Gtaes for putting Melinda on the Board of the WashPost last September in an effort to silence them; shame on all of you for pressing congress to enact new laws "to protect creativity and innovation", while secretly stealing inventions from amazingly talented individuals to fight a technology war of global financial proportions. You collective egos are truly rabid and out of control.

I have every intention of locating the inventor behind the things you are relying on for your war and telling him not to cooperate with ANY of you. Congress should investigate what you despicable people have been doing. If he is working for you Mr. Jobs, I will try to persuade him not to.

For the curious and other journalists who have been left in the dark, check out the posts on Steven Nipper's law blog. (google "nipper fax" or "nipper ipod" etc) If you feel you have the technical background to make sense of patent documents, then go to USPTO.gov and research the patents of Irving Tsai, who reportedly invented much of things while at MIT and offered to give them to Tim Berners Lee for free. Berners Lee supposedly called Tsai a "patent terrorist" in return for that. Truly unbelievable but we saw evidence. Know also that the law firms named on the cover sheets of the Tsai patents are conspiring with many of these people in a probably criminal fashion. An inside source showed us evidence of that.

Check out "the Eolas angle". Gates, Ellison, Jobs, and several others all know that the Tsai patents in particular 5,495,581) can be used to invalidate Eolas-906. Apparently, the benefit from keeping that knowledge silent, namely of having the opportunity to steal those inventions, took priorty over resolving a legal case considered of "landmark" significance and impacting all of them.

No more views on this topic and Wireless Broadband initiative?

Wireless Broadband initiative is the single most important reason for using Intel chip. The significance of Wireless Broadband is that we can say bye-bye to all telco & cable operators - they will be extinct. We can access Internet, watch TV and listen to radio from anywhere with any devices.

Btw, not sure why Guest talks about patent here.

Mace,

I too have kept it in the back of my mind that there has to be much more to the Apple Stores than just being a cool version of the old-world retail outlet, given the huge capital investment. I have dreamt up all kinds of ways the stores could deliver media (music, movies, etc) both by having a person going to the store, as well as wirelessly but it hasn't happened yet.

And yes, the WiMax angle is especially intriguing now with Apple going to Intel.

Hey Mace,

Remember this from Jan - www.themacobserver.com/article/2005/01/17.1.shtml, which quotes a NYTimes article:

"In an interview after his presentation," wrote Mr. Markoff, "Mr. Jobs demurred. The problem, he suggested, was not that Mac TV was not a good idea, but that the cable companies are monopolies. But he did not close the door entirely."

That quote made it clear to me that Jobs had already carefully studied the problem and was focused on finding a way to get around the cable monopolies to deliver Mac TV (at least to the home). (And I believe, eventually to a mobile product that goes around or partners with the cellular companies. But Jobs is waiting for a long-enough battery and large-enough screen that will still result in a truly-portable and usable product).

If people look through lots of old Jobs quotes, they will find that he often labels the problem without saying that Apple plans to do anything about it. Then sometime later, Apple will have a product that solves the problem. This looks like another one.

Thanks, both guest. Wireless Broadband is way bigger deal than Intel inside Mac.

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Would Apple not be listed as a member of the WiMax Forum were they in development of these processes?

http://www.wimaxforum.org/about/roster/