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Apple Makes Gains in IT Space, According to Computer Dealer News

Apple Makes Gains in IT Space, According to Computer Dealer News

by , 3:40 PM EDT, July 20th, 2005

A Computer Dealer News article posted at MacNewsWorld indicates that attitudes are changing in the IT (information technology) sector, where "it's different than 10 years ago," Simply Computing corporate sales manager Regan Hayes is quoted as saying. "If you mentioned Apple to anybody on the PC side, any IT guys would kind of laugh at you. Now we've got credibility from a company that's doing well, we've got credibility from a consumer marketplace that's doing well and now we have companies like Oracle supporting us. It's like a 180 [degree turn]."

Part of that success is attributable to the release of the Tiger version of Mac OS X Server, which supports 64-bit applications, Weblog Server for publishing blogs, iChat Server secure instant messaging and more. The article quotes Apple Canada's strategic development manager, Willi Powell, who says that the company is finding channel partners who "really never thought of selling or servicing Apple in a data center space."

Mr. Powell continues: "What we're finding is any company with a firm IT infrastructure setup really seems to be opening their doors to Apple servers, and that's been a bit of a change over the last 12 months ... It's taken Oracle to say, 'We can put in these servers and they're identical to Sun servers but they're less money.'"

In addition, companies like the Montreal-based Mac 911 Inc. and humanIT have integrated Mac clients in Microsoft's Active Directory environment. Stephan Pinheiro, who is president of both firms, says in the article: "The argument of enterprise IT managers is, 'Well, we like Mac, we'd like to support Mac, but unfortunately they do not fit into our corporate policy management, which is based on Active Directory. It's no longer an excuse, period."

Mr. Pinheiro adds that opportunities in the storage area networks (SAN) realm "suddenly just exploded." Writer Vawn Himmelsbach notes: "Apple storage solutions are on average 35 to 50 percent cheaper than comparative technology, which allows [Mr. Pinheiro] to go back to customers that previously couldn't afford a SAN."

Finally, Forrester Research analyst Frank Gillett is quoted as saying that what Apple offers can be a viable alternative to Microsoft's Small Business Server (SBS). "When I look at Mac OS Server and the associated hardware, what I see is competition for SBS, integration with Mac OS clients and for people who [don't want] Linux on Intel but still want open source."

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Close Name:Guest
Subject: Stop!

No more good news about Apple! You'll blow poor little RC's head off!

Close Name:jimothy Posts: 612 Joined: 04 Jun 2004
Subject: I've got a lable for all these switchers

itLemmings!

Close Name:Ampar Posts: 44 Joined: 04 May 2005
Subject: Apple Growth in IT

Great news! But this is bound to stir the wrath of Fantasy Check. Bring it on, under the bridge dweller.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: jimothy...

jimothy, why do u care if they'r lemmings...
they can spend their $$$ however they want...

anyway, i own shares of AAPL....apparently u dont...
i'm sitting back doing nothing...and making $$$
ha ha ha ha ha ha

Close Name:jimothy Posts: 612 Joined: 04 Jun 2004
Subject: Lemmings

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Guest wrote:
jimothy, why do u care if they'r lemmings...

I don't. I'm poking fun at a certain regular around here.

Close Name:Biff Posts: 1479 Joined: 08 Apr 2004
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Guest wrote:
i'm sitting back doing nothing...and making $$$
ha ha ha ha ha ha
LOL

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Annoying!

That guy is so annoying! Why would someone who doesn't like apple or Macs waste their time on a site devoted to apple & macs???

PS- this is great news

View Name:RealityCheck -   Troll Posts: 392 Joined: 06 May 2004
Subject: Oh Sure, Lock In To Obsolete Proprietary Hardware
Close Name:tuscmat Posts: 35 Joined: 06 May 2004
Subject: RC, is that the best you can do?

What kind of a stupid retort is this? Your bosses at TMO must have kept you busy to come up with such a lame post. Keep trying though, eventually you might get witty. Maybe.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Huh?

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RealityCheck wrote:
Why shop around for PCs when you can just go to Apple and pay through the nose.


Because the RDF compelled them to transform into itLemmings and buy them?

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RealityCheck wrote:
Even better recommend sole-source proprietary hardware that's being discontinued in less than year, that will be easy to sell.


Great point! We all know that as soon as the new Mactel machines come out, the ones with PowerPC chips will instantly cease to function. Thanks for the reminder.

Close Name:macmikey Posts: 22 Joined: 18 Feb 2005
Subject: So funny... and yet, so very, very sad.

"Why shop around for PCs when you can just go to Apple and pay through the nose. Even better recommend sole-source proprietary hardware that's being discontinued in less than year, that will be easy to sell."

RC, you're so much fun. Completely disregard what is actual FACT and come in here with your hands over your ears, eyes closed, and singing "I'm Henry the 8th" at the top of your lungs.

Here we have him, ladies and gentlemen, the court jester. Though the name is... a malaprop, at best. An attempt at irony, perhaps?

"Malaprop" -- look it up in the Dictionary.

Close Name:kenaustus Posts: 602 Joined: 27 Jun 2003
Subject: Why shop around

when you can get XP which is only promised to be obsolete in a year. XP (and NT and 2000) looks like a good bet to remain active for years to come. Longhorn, which has been stripped to a bare SP level with a flashy (?) video is one of the best reasons to switch to Apple - at least their next generation OX has been delivered, enhanced and includes those features that are too hard for Longhorn.

Close Name:macuber Posts: 6 Joined: 11 Jul 2005
Subject:

"Why shop around for PCs when you can just go to Apple and pay through the nose."

And paying out of your arnse for running a PC. Adding up all those interfaces you need adds up more on Windows. Plus more money spent on AntiVirus/Spyware/Adware Software.

"Even better recommend sole-source proprietary hardware that's being discontinued in less than year, that will be easy to sell."

Nice of RC talking about XP for a change.

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

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macuber wrote:

"Even better recommend sole-source proprietary hardware that's being discontinued in less than year, that will be easy to sell."

Nice of RC talking about XP for a change.


Yeah, XP is hardware, you Macbutt.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Aaaah, good 'ole FantasyCheck at it again ....

- doing his Iraqi Propaganda Minister routine, this time to perfection.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: TMO Employees

"Your bosses at TMO must have kept you busy to come up with such a lame post."

I think it's a safe bet that Bryan has better sense than to hire a delusional, self-loathing mouth breather like RC.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Reading Comprehension 101

From TFA:
Mr. Powell continues: "What we're finding is any company with a firm IT infrastructure setup really seems to be opening their doors to Apple servers, and that's been a bit of a change over the last 12 months ... It's taken Oracle to say, 'We can put in these servers and they're identical to Sun servers but they're less money.'"

It says LESS MONEY. Idiot.
Apparently, trolls are delusional AND illiterate. Just pathetic. I recommend retroactive abortion for that oxygen waster.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Macbutt?

Are you kidding me? Are you four? Shouldn't you be surfing Nickelodeon web sites or getting ready for your nappy?

: P

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

"Why shop around for PCs when you can just go to Apple and pay through the nose."

Because OS X is completely immune to viruses and spyware, while Windows is miserably drowning in them. Of course, what you're asking is a trick question, because a Mac Mini doesn't cost more than other comparable budget PCs. Besides even that, once you outfit a Windows PC to do the same things a Mac can, it winds up either costing as much or usually even more than a Mac. Then there's the cost of maintaining a Mac, which is much less than the cost of maintaning a PC unless you decide to steal all the software you need to keep it alive.

So it's not about shopping around for Windows PCs or paying out the nose. It's about shopping around for one huge gaping security hole which will end up costing you a whole lot of wasted time and money and is only good for playing games, or paying for a serious computer that's free from the malware plague effecting Windows.

"Even better recommend sole-source proprietary hardware that's being discontinued in less than year, that will be easy to sell."

Proprietary hardware? Sorry, Reality Check, but it looks like you don't understand what "proprietary" means. You'd be right if PPC Macs could only run the Mac OS, but they can run other operating systems, too. So the hardware is no more proprietary than the hardware in a Windows PC.

And discontinued in less than a year? Boo hoo. Today's best, most cutting edge Windows PC will be completely obsolete in less than a year, too. And did you forget that Apple will still be supporting PPC PowerMacs into 2007? Whoops.

By the way, what happened to that catastrophic stock crash you said Apple was suffering back when shares were trading around $31? You know, the one you said that they'd never recover from? 'Cause now they're trading at $44. And I'm wondering, what happened there?

Close Name:Intruder -   TMO Mac Specialist Posts: 3149 Joined: 07 Jul 2004
Subject:

<golf clap>

Close Name:Syntax_Error Posts: 58 Joined: 07 Jun 2005
Subject: RE:RC

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RealityCheck wrote:
Why shop around for PCs when you can just go to Apple and pay through the nose. Even better recommend sole-source proprietary hardware that's being discontinued in less than year, that will be easy to sell.


For the same reason you can buy a Chevrolet for $12k and a Lexus for $47k, its about quality (and not just from the hardware aspect, but by customer experience, and customer service as well) and prestiege. I'd much rather admit that I have a Powerbook G4 than a Dell.

To go a step further, I had a powerboo G3 700MHz that fell into an Apple recall after the warranty expired, after 4x to fix the problem, Apple decided to give me a brand new iBook G4 1.2GHz for my trouble. The hardware my not always be top notch, but the customer experience is. I'd like to see Dell or Gateway do that without purchasing an option accidental damage insurance plan of some sort. NOBODY replaces computers that are out of warranty....oh wait, Apple did.

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