Apple Makes Gains in IT Space, According to Computer Dealer News
Apple Makes Gains in IT Space, According to Computer Dealer News
by , 3:40 PM EDT, July 20th, 2005
A Computer Dealer News article posted at MacNewsWorld indicates that attitudes are changing in the IT (information technology) sector, where "it's different than 10 years ago," Simply Computing corporate sales manager Regan Hayes is quoted as saying. "If you mentioned Apple to anybody on the PC side, any IT guys would kind of laugh at you. Now we've got credibility from a company that's doing well, we've got credibility from a consumer marketplace that's doing well and now we have companies like Oracle supporting us. It's like a 180 [degree turn]."
Part of that success is attributable to the release of the Tiger version of Mac OS X Server, which supports 64-bit applications, Weblog Server for publishing blogs, iChat Server secure instant messaging and more. The article quotes Apple Canada's strategic development manager, Willi Powell, who says that the company is finding channel partners who "really never thought of selling or servicing Apple in a data center space."
Mr. Powell continues: "What we're finding is any company with a firm IT infrastructure setup really seems to be opening their doors to Apple servers, and that's been a bit of a change over the last 12 months ... It's taken Oracle to say, 'We can put in these servers and they're identical to Sun servers but they're less money.'"
In addition, companies like the Montreal-based Mac 911 Inc. and humanIT have integrated Mac clients in Microsoft's Active Directory environment. Stephan Pinheiro, who is president of both firms, says in the article: "The argument of enterprise IT managers is, 'Well, we like Mac, we'd like to support Mac, but unfortunately they do not fit into our corporate policy management, which is based on Active Directory. It's no longer an excuse, period."
Mr. Pinheiro adds that opportunities in the storage area networks (SAN) realm "suddenly just exploded." Writer Vawn Himmelsbach notes: "Apple storage solutions are on average 35 to 50 percent cheaper than comparative technology, which allows [Mr. Pinheiro] to go back to customers that previously couldn't afford a SAN."
Finally, Forrester Research analyst Frank Gillett is quoted as saying that what Apple offers can be a viable alternative to Microsoft's Small Business Server (SBS). "When I look at Mac OS Server and the associated hardware, what I see is competition for SBS, integration with Mac OS clients and for people who [don't want] Linux on Intel but still want open source."
Observer Comments
Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:32 pm Subject: I've got a lable for all these switchers
Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:23 pm Subject: Oh Sure, Lock In To Obsolete Proprietary Hardware
Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:56 pm Subject: RC, is that the best you can do?
QuoteRealityCheck wrote:
Why shop around for PCs when you can just go to Apple and pay through the nose.
Because the RDF compelled them to transform into itLemmings and buy them?
QuoteRealityCheck wrote:
Even better recommend sole-source proprietary hardware that's being discontinued in less than year, that will be easy to sell.
Great point! We all know that as soon as the new Mactel machines come out, the ones with PowerPC chips will instantly cease to function. Thanks for the reminder.
Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:52 pm Subject: So funny... and yet, so very, very sad.
"Why shop around for PCs when you can just go to Apple and pay through the nose. Even better recommend sole-source proprietary hardware that's being discontinued in less than year, that will be easy to sell."
RC, you're so much fun. Completely disregard what is actual FACT and come in here with your hands over your ears, eyes closed, and singing "I'm Henry the 8th" at the top of your lungs.
Here we have him, ladies and gentlemen, the court jester. Though the name is... a malaprop, at best. An attempt at irony, perhaps?
"Malaprop" -- look it up in the Dictionary.
Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:48 am Subject: Why shop around
when you can get XP which is only promised to be obsolete in a year. XP (and NT and 2000) looks like a good bet to remain active for years to come. Longhorn, which has been stripped to a bare SP level with a flashy (?) video is one of the best reasons to switch to Apple - at least their next generation OX has been delivered, enhanced and includes those features that are too hard for Longhorn.
"Why shop around for PCs when you can just go to Apple and pay through the nose."
And paying out of your arnse for running a PC. Adding up all those interfaces you need adds up more on Windows. Plus more money spent on AntiVirus/Spyware/Adware Software.
"Even better recommend sole-source proprietary hardware that's being discontinued in less than year, that will be easy to sell."
Nice of RC talking about XP for a change.
From TFA:
Mr. Powell continues: "What we're finding is any company with a firm IT infrastructure setup really seems to be opening their doors to Apple servers, and that's been a bit of a change over the last 12 months ... It's taken Oracle to say, 'We can put in these servers and they're identical to Sun servers but they're less money.'"
It says LESS MONEY. Idiot.
Apparently, trolls are delusional AND illiterate. Just pathetic. I recommend retroactive abortion for that oxygen waster.
"Why shop around for PCs when you can just go to Apple and pay through the nose."
Because OS X is completely immune to viruses and spyware, while Windows is miserably drowning in them. Of course, what you're asking is a trick question, because a Mac Mini doesn't cost more than other comparable budget PCs. Besides even that, once you outfit a Windows PC to do the same things a Mac can, it winds up either costing as much or usually even more than a Mac. Then there's the cost of maintaining a Mac, which is much less than the cost of maintaning a PC unless you decide to steal all the software you need to keep it alive.
So it's not about shopping around for Windows PCs or paying out the nose. It's about shopping around for one huge gaping security hole which will end up costing you a whole lot of wasted time and money and is only good for playing games, or paying for a serious computer that's free from the malware plague effecting Windows.
"Even better recommend sole-source proprietary hardware that's being discontinued in less than year, that will be easy to sell."
Proprietary hardware? Sorry, Reality Check, but it looks like you don't understand what "proprietary" means. You'd be right if PPC Macs could only run the Mac OS, but they can run other operating systems, too. So the hardware is no more proprietary than the hardware in a Windows PC.
And discontinued in less than a year? Boo hoo. Today's best, most cutting edge Windows PC will be completely obsolete in less than a year, too. And did you forget that Apple will still be supporting PPC PowerMacs into 2007? Whoops.
By the way, what happened to that catastrophic stock crash you said Apple was suffering back when shares were trading around $31? You know, the one you said that they'd never recover from? 'Cause now they're trading at $44. And I'm wondering, what happened there?
Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:23 pm Subject:
QuoteRealityCheck wrote:
Why shop around for PCs when you can just go to Apple and pay through the nose. Even better recommend sole-source proprietary hardware that's being discontinued in less than year, that will be easy to sell.
For the same reason you can buy a Chevrolet for $12k and a Lexus for $47k, its about quality (and not just from the hardware aspect, but by customer experience, and customer service as well) and prestiege. I'd much rather admit that I have a Powerbook G4 than a Dell.
To go a step further, I had a powerboo G3 700MHz that fell into an Apple recall after the warranty expired, after 4x to fix the problem, Apple decided to give me a brand new iBook G4 1.2GHz for my trouble. The hardware my not always be top notch, but the customer experience is. I'd like to see Dell or Gateway do that without purchasing an option accidental damage insurance plan of some sort. NOBODY replaces computers that are out of warranty....oh wait, Apple did.
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