Adult-Oriented Podcasts on iTunes Under Scrutiny
Adult-Oriented Podcasts on iTunes Under Scrutiny
by , 8:00 AM EDT, July 22nd, 2005
Along with podcasts on computers, wine and long distance running, Apple Computer is getting headlines for the addition of what some are calling "porncasts" through its links on iTunes.
A report in Friday's Wall Street Journal reveals Apple is offering access to "raunchy sex banter, erotic storytelling sessions and reviews of pornographic sites" through podcasts links via iTunes.
"As podcasting reaches a more mainstream audience, the more risque audio shows -- and Apple's role in distributing them -- could come under greater scrutiny," wrote WSJ reporter Vauhini Vara, although she quoted no one openly criticizing Apple or complaints from religious groups.
Apple declined to say whether any of its users have complained about the adult podcasts. The company said it could potentially pull programs that it deems too explicit, but declined to say whether it has yet to do so. An Apple spokesperson said the service has no specific guidelines as to what constitutes explicit content, and asks those submitting podcasts to the company to admit to explicit content when they do.
"If for some reason we miss it, customers usually catch it," Kerris said.
The report points to two podcasts -- "Fetish Flame" and "Open Source Sex" -- as podcasts containing openly explicit sex talk. Podcasters argue that by labeling their shows as "explicit," they should be free to say whatever they want. "I don't have to censor my language or anyone else's language," said Ms. Blue of "Open Source Sex." "It's like the dog is off the leash."
But for Apple, one analyst cautioned the computer company should be careful. "Apple needs to be careful to protect its brand here," said Ted Schadler, an analyst at Forrester Research. "The editorial function is just getting more and more important."
Observer Comments
Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:18 am Subject: The Children
But just think of the children!!!
Seriously, they may have to put something in place to verify age. Having an iTMS account, with a credit card as a payment vehicle, may be one way. I don't think those below a certain age can get a credit card, at least not easily.
Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:19 am Subject: Let me decide!!!
This is the United States of America, the land of the free and the home of the brave. Censorship, which is an action by government to completely stop certain kinds of speech, very rarely happens here.
At the same time, Apple is not required by any law or any ethical reasoning to provide links to podcasts that feature pornography, or KKK hate speech for that matter. Those podcasts can still be accessed through iTunes, and even subscribed to through iTunes, without Apple having to provide the links. Hustler is a legal purchase in the United States, but grocery stores are not required to sell it, nor are they censoring for not selling it.
Greg Lawhorn
"The guarantee of freedom of speech does include an audience."
Just because it's not listed in iTunes doesn't mean you can't get it. Companies like Apple need to think about a broad segment of the population. There is absolutely no reason why they should risk bad press and public sentiment to advertise someone elses' product.
The whole idea here is to convert people to iTunes and iPod ergo Apple products. Apple doesn't make any money linking podcasts (I'd imagine). It's just a marketing tool. And you wouldn't market using questionable material would you?
QuoteGuest wrote:
This is the United States of America, the land of the free and the home of the brave. Censorship, which is an action by government to completely stop certain kinds of speech, very rarely happens here.
Yeah, right. If that were true, then the FDA wouldn't be able to raid book publishers and seize and burn cookbooks merely for mentioning the fact that stevia can be used as a sweetener. Just one tiny example of draconian censorship in the good ol' US of A.
It often doesn't make headlines because, well, "this is the land of the free," afterall, don't you know? As Mark Twain said, in America free speech is confined to the dead.
Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:56 pm Subject: Difference between "explicit" R rated vs. X Rated
It'd be nice if there was a distinction between "explicit" programming that is basically just a light level of F and S profanity, vs. the "explicit" programming that is much more sexually oriented.
I think that's an important distinction and I'd hope that all the "explicit" shows aren't banned.
Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:04 pm Subject: Re: Difference between "explicit" R rated vs. X Ra
Quotekevdo wrote:
It'd be nice if there was a distinction between "explicit" programming that is basically just a light level of F and S profanity, vs. the "explicit" programming that is much more sexually oriented.
I think that's an important distinction and I'd hope that all the "explicit" shows aren't banned.
They should just adopt the movie-rating system for Podcasts and then allow a system admin. to set what level iTunes is allowed to download without a password.
So parents can set it to whatever level they want and the rest of us can leave the feature off. I have no problem with giving the OPTION of this kind of control for those who want it since doing something like that could be enough to keep them from having to actually remove anything.
Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:23 pm Subject: What is Explicit and what is Offensive, anyway?
Why is SEX offensive (arguably an "act of love") but blowing body parts all over the place (an "act of hate") is OK? What should we be trying to promote to our kids? I'd love for someone to ask Hillary Clinton that one. "Let's censor the game where you willfully have to unlock the sex as Obscene, but still allow the killing." Or "let's censor Podcasts that talk about natural human behavior".
I know what I'd rather listen to. 2600's Off The Hook, or Democracy Now. Good old subversion without the sex or violence.
QuoteGuest wrote:QuoteGuest wrote:
This is the United States of America, the land of the free and the home of the brave. Censorship, which is an action by government to completely stop certain kinds of speech, very rarely happens here.<roflol>
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Yeah, right. If that were true, then the FDA wouldn't be able to raid book publishers and seize and burn cookbooks merely for mentioning the fact that stevia can be used as a sweetener. Just one tiny example of draconian censorship in the good ol' US of A.
It often doesn't make headlines because, well, "this is the land of the free," afterall, don't you know? As Mark Twain said, in America free speech is confined to the dead.
Well, just ask our fellow "Americans" about the number of pro-Palestinian or at least neutral opinions in newspapers and news channels, and you'll get an additional hint on "America"'s freedom of speech...not to mention the fact that "weapons of mass destruction" have their biggest stockpile in the U.S. of A..
But the funniest thing I heard some days ago from an "American" was when I said that in my country we had a good proportion of Afro-Americans as well...his wonderful reply: "huh, you mean Afro-Latinos??"
My desired reply to that display of intelligence: well, ya know America is a continent, not a country...only your moronic and obsolete Monroe Doctrine tells you that.
Besides, "latino" means someone descending from Latin people (Lacio) or speaking Latin languages, in a more direct reference to Italy (the cradle of modern civilization) and encompassing also Portugal, Spain and France...
Wake up, stupid, alienated and hypocritical ones! You guys create porn and export it everywhere; but your own girls can't wear G-strings...sad.
Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:05 am Subject: Will the christian
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