So will new Macs come with this instead of the (now) old Pro Mouse? Or will this be sold only as a peripheral/BTO, like the Bluetooth one is now?

The design is great and I can't wait to buy one.

welcome to the eighties

No way. Apple making a multi-button mouse? The world just turned upside down.

No bluetooth option? I'm, really disappointed.

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Billy K wrote:
No bluetooth option? I'm, really disappointed.

Hopefully they're just waiting to see how people like this and they'll come out with a wireless one shortly if the reception is good.

As for the mouse itself...well, I have to say that I really need to go see one in person before I can decide if I like this.

Yeah, it's probably neat, but is it neat enough to replace my two-button logitech mouse? I dunno...I'll have to try it out a little before I can answer that one.

The only thing that concerns me is that it doesn't seem to have a "per application" customize option. So you can't - say - have the scroll button act as a tab switcher in Safari and a tool launcher in Logic. Maybe I'm mistaken on this one but the control panel screenshots don't seem to show that option anywhere...

...and it doesn't "click" does it?
(There is a speaker inside that makes a "clicking" sound though.)

Apple did it again...great design and true coherence with the company's old principle of simplicity in human interface guidelines; it's still a one-button mouse, as it always should be, but with double-button functionality.

GO APPLE, GO!

p.s.: RC, where are ya? Still struggling with your virus-suffering PC?

Finally, an Apple multi-button mouse. Although it was fun to get a freebie at one of the last NYC Macworld shows, I could just never adapt to a single-button, especially since my first exposure to the Mac was with a Kensington Turbo Mouse, which I use to this day.

"Hopefully they're just waiting to see how people like this and they'll come out with a wireless one shortly if the reception is good."

Very, very clever.

If the 360 degree scrolling works in Adobe Creative Suite and Xpress I'll buy one today.

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Guest wrote:
welcome to the eighties

I dont get it? can u explain please?

Small White Car,

You stated:
>> they'll come out with a wireless one shortly if the reception is good.

Well, the bluetooth "reception" had best be better than "good" when they come out with it!

MacSpudster

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Anonymous wrote:
Small White Car,

You stated:
>> they'll come out with a wireless one shortly if the reception is good.

Well, the bluetooth "reception" had best be better than "good" when they come out with it!

MacSpudster

Yes yes...to you and the other guest above, I swear that was not on purpose!

of all the silly times to play wait-&-see....

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Pashtun Wally wrote:
of all the silly times to play wait-&-see....

Yeah, I don't really understand either. I know someone who bought an iMac (his first Mac) and wanted a wireless keyboard/mouse to really go with the whole "clean computer" look.

He ended up buying a 3rd party wireless mouse because he wanted to have a 2-button mouse. That's a lost sale for Apple, and it's STILL a lost sale even with this new mouse.

As I said above, I'm happy with my logitech (wired) mouse. If this thing came in wireless I might think about switching over, but right now I'm not sure that it's worth my money to switch.

I'm in a situation where my computer is jacked into my HDTV, so wired peripherals are not an option if I want to sit more than 6 feet from the screen. I have the Logitech Cordless Duo, which has worked decently, but if Apple made this baby wireless I'd switch in a heartbeat.

Although I'm glad to see a 2-button+ mouse from apple, finally, what really impresses me is the scroll ball. Not only does it give me the functionality of a scroll wheel, which I am hopelessly addicted to, but it offers the potential of even more functionality than that. That is more important than the ability to right-click on the mouse (I was already well trained in using the control key to right click things before USB even caught on). Of course I'll be waiting also to see how it works in gaming, the single button mouse has always been the most hindering in that space.

I like it, but with any mouse you have to try it first.

If the little scroll ball works anything like the two fingers on the touchpad for powerbooks (and now iBooks) it should work in just about any program that uses standard scrollbars... and it is very nice to use (I miss it when I go to a mouse or an older touchpad.)

I've always wanted the "grab hand" to be in every application and this gives you something pretty close.

Can't wait to go hands on with this.

One benefit of the touch sensitive design is that there are no moving parts to wear out (like how many scroll wheels do.)

I like it, but with any mouse you have to try it first.

If the little scroll ball works anything like the two fingers on the touchpad for powerbooks (and now iBooks) it should work in just about any program that uses standard scrollbars... and it is very nice to use (I miss it when I go to a mouse or an older touchpad.)

I've always wanted the "grab hand" to be in every application and this gives you something pretty close.

Can't wait to go hands on with this.

One benefit of the touch sensitive design is that there are no moving parts to wear out (like how many scroll wheels do.)

I miss him.

After years of using a 2 button mouse with a scroll wheel, I went back to a one button when I got me new iMac, beacuse the wife wanted the Apple wireless keyboard and mouse - I miss it a LOT - if they put out a wireless version of this mouse, I'll be all over it in a second.

I hope they have OK'd this with Hanna Barbarra or we may be looking at yet another law suit.

As far as the 80's comment... I think he/she's referring to more than one mouse button? But... the two button mouse wasn't really in popular use until the 90's, I'm pretty sure (though 3 button mice were used in workstation-level computers in there somewhere.)

If he/she is talking about having a scroll-wheel he/she is WAY off, as the scroll wheel wasn't in popular use until 1996 with Microsoft's intellimouse (invented elsewhere however http://itotd.com/index.alt?ArticleID=330 )

But what about that scroll ball? That's pretty new... and touch sensitive mouse buttons... this is pretty new territory.

So the comment "welcome to the eighties" is just a bold statement about the ignorance of the person who posted it, I guess.

I mean the 80's was when Apple made the mouse itself popular.

Jobs obsession with the lame one-button mouse was always laughable. Just a few problems with the new mouse:
- Not wireless
- Extra cost option for a decent mouse
- Left and right click buttons invisible for great usability
Hiding the buttons was required so as not to embarrass Steve, he can claim he's still using a one-button mouse.

"No bluetooth option? I'm, really disappointed."

Of course you are, because nothing Apple does will ever satisfy you.
Disappointed? Get some sense of reality.

RC finally admits he's a loser

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RealityCheck wrote:

- Left and right click buttons invisible for great usability

You have to look at your mouse every time you click? That must really slow you down.

I suggest you try left and right clicking without actually looking directly at the mouse. You might surprise yourself at what you can do and how much time that will save.

Yes, I have learned to really appreciate a two button mouse.

As to wireless mice. They are nice if they are not too heavy, I have found that the batteries can add weight. I put mine away and went back to my corded LogiTech.

The extra cost for a decent mouse is not too much and is a tax write off for me, I use my primary Macintosh for business. If this thing pans out then the mouse will probably ship with new Macs.

I have no idea if Jobs is still using a one button mouse or not and neither does RC. If anything he was probably testing this Mighty Mouse for some time.

I can't believe that I am agreeing with RC, even if only partially. But these are troubled and interesting times, Day After Tomorrow type of rains, earthquakes in the Midwest States, a 10th planet, corrupt politicians. It is a world turned upside down.

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RealityCheck wrote:
Jobs obsession with the lame one-button mouse was always laughable. Just a few problems with the new mouse:
- Not wireless
- Extra cost option for a decent mouse
- Left and right click buttons invisible for great usability
Hiding the buttons was required so as not to embarrass Steve, he can claim he's still using a one-button mouse.

If you have to LOOK at your mouse to tell whether you're left or right clicking you've got more problems than I can to hear about....

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Al Swearengen wrote:
... corrupt politicians. It is a world turned upside down.

Since when is that unusual?

Had its place; I still like it, but can easily switch back and forth betwen it and a multi-button.

As for wireless, I can do without it... What good does the "clean computer" look do when the rest of the room is stacked to the ceiling with books and papers?

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Anonymous wrote:

As for wireless, I can do without it... What good does the "clean computer" look do when the rest of the room is stacked to the ceiling with books and papers?

Well, thank you for describing ME...

...but the guy I was talking about was buying that iMac as a living-room computer. His PC was upstairs but the iMac was meant to sit out and do photo/video stuff with in the middle of the living room, near the TV.

I myself don't have a wireless mouse, no.

Well, others can agree with RC, but I won't. Luckily this new mouse is configurable as a one-button mouse for those people who want or need such a thing. And who might need it? Children for one. People with limited mobility for another, like those with arthritis or various mobility disorders. Mice are cheap enough now that we can afford to buy a two-button mouse if we want one; those children or those people who have to pay for medication, therapy, or any number of things shouldn't have to pay more to get a mouse that works for them. Besides, companies (at least U.S. ones) are supposed to be compliant with the Americans With Disabilities Act in everything now, and the one-button mouse definitely ensures that.

I'll have to play with the mouse some to see if it fits me. I like the roller ball idea a lot. The symmetrical shape is a bonus since either right- or left-handers can use it with no issues. (Coming from a family with both righties and lefties, this is important. I don''t give "form fitting" mice a second glance, if they even get a first one.) I do like wireless (not for my keyboard -- would rather not have to be swapping batteries all the time on my keyboard ) but this could make a nice secondary mouse for when my current run runs out of battery juice or to be packed in with a laptop or something.

On the other hand I have a PB and have been using a wired 2 button scroll mouse (Macally). I'm actively looking for a wireless mouse and this would have been perfect.

Quick Fact:

Right now the Mac Mini has a "Wired Keyboard and Mighty Mouse" pull-down option at the Apple store for $78.

No other Macs currently have that option. You'd have to buy the mighty mouse in addition to the 1-button mouse you get with the computer.

I wonder if they'll be changing this soon. I'd imagine Powermac buyers to be a big audience for this. (Perhaps they have a bunch of sealed boxes they need to sell before they'll offer them together?)

Can anybody confirm that these are on display or able to be used at an Apple Store location. I was thinking about heading out to mine at the Eastview Mall in Victor, NY. I suppose I could just call and ask though!

Mouse looks very cool... I will wait for the wireless version.
Can someone educate me on something?
I keep hearing about this "rc" person... who is he... or it?

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Small White Car wrote:

You have to look at your mouse every time you click? That must really slow you down.

I suggest you try left and right clicking without actually looking directly at the mouse. You might surprise yourself at what you can do and how much time that will save.

Look, dips&*%, you don't have to respond to Reality Check's comments each time. You think you're cool "criticizing" RC. Do something more satisfying with your life.

Love you,
Guest

[edited by Gavin for language]

I really want the bluetooth option as well. However, I'm also concerned that Apple may not have included an easy way to clean the little scroll ball and area beneath it. That's going to get dirty fast under the ball. I mean, if it's as simple as being maliable enough to pull it out of the top, then I'd be happy with that; unless that also means the ball will fall out easily.

I've read severalposts on macrumors about people who already purchased one. Appleinsider even has unpacking photos. They are avaialbe to buy right now. Wish there was an Apple store here in Champaign, IL

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dstroud wrote:
Mouse looks very cool... I will wait for the wireless version.
Can someone educate me on something?
I keep hearing about this "rc" person... who is he... or it?

rc is a troll that likes to frequent the TMO boards. As with most trolls he adds nothing tho the discussion, he just writes stuff to annoy and get a response. As with most trolls rc lives on attention. If we were to ignore him, not reply, not respond, then he would starve for attention and go away.

Don't feed the troll.

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Anonymous wrote:
Do something more satisfying with your life.

I'd love to, but sadly I'd be fired if I left work early. So here we are.

And for the record I don't think I'm cool. I'm sorry if you got that impression.

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Small White Car wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
Do something more satisfying with your life.

I'd love to, but sadly I'd be fired if I left work early. So here we are.

And for the record I don't think I'm cool. I'm sorry if you got that impression.

Yes you do, else you wouldn't be contradicting guest.

I had to run an errand this morning and swung by the San Diego Store at the Fashion Valley Mall. I asked and they didn't have them, they didn't know when would be on display.

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aaronsullivan wrote:
Can anybody confirm that these are on display or able to be used at an Apple Store location. I was thinking about heading out to mine at the Eastview Mall in Victor, NY. I suppose I could just call and ask though!

This has already been said, but it's about bloody time Apple made this move. A one button mouse is great for someone learning how to use a computer, but thats about it. Every mac I've ever owned, I bought either an ADB/USB 2 button mouse for.

It's the one thing that Apple did that didn't make sense. If you want to give one button mice for ease of use, at least offer a multi-button option.

Way to go!

I must wonder though if this move was put in place due to the Intel switch and the new ability Macs will have to run Windoze and now require multiple buttons to maneuver.

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Small White Car wrote:

And for the record I don't think I'm cool. I'm sorry if you got that impression.

Yes you do, else you wouldn't be contradicting guest.

Contradicting someone makes you cool? I don't really feel that way, but ok. Most of the posts here are contradicting someone else and I don't think that makes us all cool people.

But I don't think that's important. What does matter is that there were a lot of good, thoughtful posts on this subject before the general nonsese started up. That's all that matters. Once the points were made (good mouse, why no bluetooth, will it come standard with macs?) then why care what happens after that? I do happen to think RC is funny as a matter of fact, and I don't understand why some people are so bothered by him. They really act like he ruined their day. I don't get that. We learn some Mac news, we have a laugh at all the posts, we move on.

There are lots of good, thoughtful threads going on in different parts of this page. It's only here in the "news" section that this is a problem so I don't see that it's a big problem. You can start as many posts as you like over in "1 Infinite Loop - The Mac Room" and there will be lots of great thoughts posted with no trolls at all. So why not enjoy them here while we can?

But no, I've never thought being here makes me cool. That's for sure. I do lots of "cool" things in my life, but I've never once bragged to someone that I post on a Mac web page. I enjoy being here, that's all.

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Syntax_Error wrote:

I must wonder though if this move was put in place due to the Intel switch and the new ability Macs will have to run Windoze and now require multiple buttons to maneuver.

I don't think it is THAT logical a path, but yes, I think there is some relation. It's probably a more general "change can be good" attitude going around Apple, but that's still a relation.

"Verily, Hell hath truly frozen over."

Looks neat...the sooner it becomes standard equipment on mouse-equipped Macs, the better (though I've been perfectly happy with my one-button mouse, ignoramus that I am). Though...I see IBM technology peeking out at me once again. Little scroll ball? Mouse pointer in the keyboard in ThinkPads? Coincidence?