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Firefox Usage Slips, Explorer and Safari Make Gains

Firefox Usage Slips, Explorer and Safari Make Gains

by , 1:40 PM EDT, August 12th, 2005

NetApplications, which measures and monitors Web site traffic, on Friday reported its monthly browser market share numbers for July. Firefox, which debuted earlier this year with large gains against Microsoft Internet Explorer, saw its usage slip from 8.71% of users in June to 8.07% in July. Internet Explorer went from 86.56% in June to 87.2% in July while Safari held steady in third place with 2.13%, a small growth from the previous month.

Rounding out the rest of the list, Netscape captured 1.5% of Internet usage, Mozille 0.52% and Opera 0.49%. Other browsers accounted for 0.09% of Web traffic.

"Mozilla recently created a for-profit division just in time to see its FireFox browser drop .7% in 30 days," Dan Shapero, NetApplications' Chief Operating Officer, said in a statement. "At 8.07%, Firefox is still flirting with mass appeal, so August should be an interesting and telling month."

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Close Name:Rainy Day Posts: 607 Joined: 07 Jun 2005
Subject: Browser Spoofing

Yes, but with browser spoofing, how can you really tell which browser is in use? How many of the IE percentage points are due to other browsers which are merely pretending to be IE so they can gain access to certain IE-only web sites?

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

Close Name:setmajer Posts: 1 Joined: 14 Aug 2005
Subject: Firefox usage grows in July, passes IE5

According to TheCounter.com:

June stats: http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2005/June/browser.php
July stats: http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2005/July/browser.php

From the article above and TheCounter's numbers, we can conclude three things:

1. Web site stats services are (probably) indicative of broad trends in the overall web audience, but little more; the only accurate reflection of the audience for a given site is that site's logs -- and even those are only as accurate as their UA sniffing algorithm.

2. Mozilla-based browsers are probably close to 10% of the 'general' audience and growing slowly, IE 5 is probably less than that and shrinking, and IE 6 usage is roughly static -- though it's due to start shrinkng once IE 7 enters public beta .

3. Safari usage and the growth thereof is limited by the adoption of Mac OS X which, while it is replacing OS 9 at a reasonable rate is probably not making significant inroads into the Windows market as yet. That means its overall share is probably limited to less than 5% of the total web audience, and given the presence of Opera, OmniWeb, Firefox and Camino on the Mac it will probably never get anywhere near there.

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

You readers are such Apple tools. If the article said Internet Explorer usage was slipping, you guys wouldn't be talking about how these numbers are not accurate due to browser spoofing, etc.

Mindless slaves, feel the pain!

Close Name:Rainy Day Posts: 607 Joined: 07 Jun 2005
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Mindless M$ Drone wrote:
You readers are such Apple tools. If the article said Internet Explorer usage was slipping, you guys wouldn't be talking about how these numbers are not accurate due to browser spoofing, etc.

Mindless slaves, feel the pain!
Uh huh. Whatever.

Close Name:Guest
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Pissy Day wrote:
I apologize for my pro-Mac comments on this site. I am going to deregister my account here and start using Linux.

Close Name:Rainy Day Posts: 607 Joined: 07 Jun 2005
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Anonymous Coward wrote:
We Windoze drones are pinheads. We’re far more stupid than you cool, creative Mac users can ever imagine. In fact, we’re so stupid, we actually enjoy all the Windoze viruses, spyware and pop-ups. That’s why we Lemmings continue to use IE in LARGE numbers. And you poor little Mac users don’t have any malware on the Mac. Ha! We have over 100,000 for Windoze! Nah, nah, nah.
Uh huh. Whatever.

Close Name:Guest
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Rainy Day wrote:
We Classic Mac butts are 15-pinheads. with a display port far more incompatible with monitors than creative Mac users can ever imagine. In fact, we’re so stupid, we actually buy soon-to-be-unsupported Macs in LARGE numbers. Then it's over! Nah, nah, nah. Uh huh. Whatever.

Close Name:Rainy Day Posts: 607 Joined: 07 Jun 2005
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Anonymous 7-year old Coward with Mac Envy wrote:
Gosh darn, I wish my dad would buy me a Mac, but he’s so cheap, all I got is this darn ol’ Dell with Windoze. But if my dad did buy me a Mac, it would probably be one of those soon-to-be-unsupported Macs.
Never fear, young coward, those PPC Mac’s will last the life-span of three of those cheap ol’ Dells your dad buys for you. You'll be using feminine hygiene products long before that Mac will need replacing.

Close Name:Guest
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Tooth Decay wrote:
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Anonymous 7-year Mac wrote:
Gosh darn, no one supports me anymore.
Never fear, young Jedi, I'll be replacing my wife's feminine hygiene products that I used long before she gets home.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Statistically significant?

A drop of 0.7 percentage points may seem a lot, but given how rubbery stats are, it's hard to be sure how statistically significant they are....

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Specious Story

So, I have to ask, do you just reprint press releases?

A single (possibly self-serving) source, questionable methodology (only NetApplications customers were counted), and no margin of error mentioned for a change of 0.64% ?

What does WebSideStory say?
What does Google say?
What does TheCounter.com say? (Two point increase.)
What does *anyone else* say?

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