Do you care about Quark. I don't. I can't believe I am even taking time to write this.

I have been doing graphic layout for 12 years now. I use to be a die hard Quark defender. But last year I had to switch to InDesign (big bad boss) and I love it!!!!

Face it. The last good Quark was 4.14. After that, just upgrade charges for minor tweaks. Customer Service - sucked.

Bye bye Quark. (but stay around a little bit longer to keep InD on it's toes)

I'm looking forward to this release, to see how they've tried to keep up with InDesign and that we have so many legacy files in Xpress that we need to keep using it.

I like InDesign CS a lot - it's easy to use and all of my experience with the rest of Adobe's line helps me learn InDesign. However I still don't use it for all of my work because it is simply too slow; I refuse to buy a Quad G5 just to eliminate slow screen redraw and spinning beachballs. We've avoided upgrading to CS2 just becasue of the speed issue, and the need for newer hardware just to run it well.

I'm still happy using both; I like my toolbox to have a lot of options.

there is something wrong with you configuration. I have been using IndesignCS since it has been first released and never, ever had a speed issue.

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Do you care about Quark. I don't. I can't believe I am even taking time to write this.

I have been doing graphic layout for 12 years now. I use to be a die hard Quark defender. But last year I had to switch to InDesign (big bad boss) and I love it!!!!

Face it. The last good Quark was 4.14. After that, just upgrade charges for minor tweaks. Customer Service - sucked.

Bye bye Quark. (but stay around a little bit longer to keep InD on it's toes)

And you think InDesign is any better? They both suck. A majority of my printers will either not accept it or charge extra because it is essentially a stable version of Pagemaker (a.k.a. Ragemaker) - one of the worst pieces of software ever released. If you want a good layout app, try Illustrator 12. It has multipage capabilities and the only good thing to come from InDesign - it's text engine. What more do you need? I believe Adobe is planning on integrating key features of InDesign into Illustrator and then killing it off. Just my 2 cents.

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DeepDish wrote:
Do you care about Quark. I don't. I can't believe I am even taking time to write this.

I have been doing graphic layout for 12 years now. I use to be a die hard Quark defender. But last year I had to switch to InDesign (big bad boss) and I love it!!!!

Face it. The last good Quark was 4.14. After that, just upgrade charges for minor tweaks. Customer Service - sucked.

Bye bye Quark. (but stay around a little bit longer to keep InD on it's toes)

And you think InDesign is any better? They both suck. A majority of my printers will either not accept it or charge extra because it is essentially a stable version of Pagemaker (a.k.a. Ragemaker) - one of the worst pieces of software ever released. If you want a good layout app, try Illustrator 12. It has multipage capabilities and the only good thing to come from InDesign - it's text engine. What more do you need? I believe Adobe is planning on integrating key features of InDesign into Illustrator and then killing it off. Just my 2 cents.

You can't layout magazines in Illustrator.

Our printer takes one up .pdfs. None of our printers have every complained our .pdf pages were designed in ID. Oh course, you have to export a .ps file and run them through Distiller to get a proper .pdf. ID (and Quark) do not export a proper .pdf file.

We were one of the first magazines in the country to go to press CTP. We were the first magazine two seperate large printing plants did their first CTP press runs on with. Think of the second largest printing company in America, we were their first magazine to go DTP.

God, how I use to love Quark. I use to dismiss ID. But now it is the other way around.

The print shop that gets most of my assignments does take InDesign and they love it. However, they do prefer PDF no matter what was the native file format, I usually include the InDesign package and the PDF on the same CD when I deliver a job.

I switched to InDesign a few years and and I don't regret it.

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DeepDish wrote:
Do you care about Quark. I don't. I can't believe I am even taking time to write this.

I have been doing graphic layout for 12 years now. I use to be a die hard Quark defender. But last year I had to switch to InDesign (big bad boss) and I love it!!!!

Face it. The last good Quark was 4.14. After that, just upgrade charges for minor tweaks. Customer Service - sucked.

Bye bye Quark. (but stay around a little bit longer to keep InD on it's toes)

And you think InDesign is any better? They both suck. A majority of my printers will either not accept it or charge extra because it is essentially a stable version of Pagemaker (a.k.a. Ragemaker) - one of the worst pieces of software ever released. If you want a good layout app, try Illustrator 12. It has multipage capabilities and the only good thing to come from InDesign - it's text engine. What more do you need? I believe Adobe is planning on integrating key features of InDesign into Illustrator and then killing it off. Just my 2 cents.

I gave up on Quark after 5.0. Unfortunately, my employer did not, and somehow Quark is now a stronger presence than ever in our office. We even have on-site reps. Hoo-ray. I'm stuck.

Quark is just bloatware at this point - trying to do too much and missing the important things. The only useful thing I see in this update is the Spotlight search plugin. Quark needs to make both their product and their service more responsive and stable.

Al,
You really think Illustrator is a superior piece of software? They blew it after 7.0 and have never recovered. Freehand has been superior ever since. Illustrator is damn near unusable at this point. To integrate it into InDesign would be suicide. Oh wait - they bought up their competition, didn't they? Great.