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Windows XP on a Mac Contest Winner

Windows XP on a Mac Contest Winner

by , 8:35 AM EST, March 16th, 2006

Colin Nederkoorn's contest to create a dual-booting Intel Mac that runs both Mac OS X and Windows XP is officially over, and a winner has been announced. According to the Windows XP on an Intel Mac Web site, the winner, known as "narf," will get the US$13,854 prize.

Part of the requirements for the contest winner include posting the steps to set up a dual booting Mac on the contest Web site. The proceeder has been verified, but is not yet available.

Prior to the winner announcement, many people felt it wouldn't be possible to set up an Intel-based Mac to boot either Mac OS X or Windows XP because the Mac does not include BIOS, which is a low-level hardware component that Windows relies on during the startup process.

A video showing an Intel-based iMac booting Windows XP is available at the Engadget Web site.

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Close Name:aryugaetu Posts: 15 Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Subject: Before you break out the Champaign...

It seems like a brilliant scam.

1. Get a bunch of people to donate thousands of dollars.
2. Video record a Dell starting up.
3. Play it full-screen on an iMac. (It was too dark to see the mouse and keyboard actually being used).
4. Keep the money and go drinkin' with your mates.
5. Brilliant!!!

I'd wait to see if the process can be duplicated (if it is ever published).

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

Your an idiot. Have you spent any time at all on the onmac website or the OSx86 forums? Didn't think so. If you did you would know that this isn't a scam.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: umm

I'm sure they're not parting with the 14,000 bucks until they see a live demonstration or try the bootloader on their own computer.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Xp on Macintel

The programming was all done from a top secret location: The Grassy Knoll

Close Name:fartheststar Posts: 222 Joined: 04 Jan 2004
Subject: proceeder or procedure?

Just wondering.

Good work on the winner. May be useful for some, however I'll stick to OSX thanks!

Close Name:Guest
Subject: They have posted instructions and download files

There is a download link on the page now. I downloaded it to check it out (even though I only have a PPC Mac). Inside you will find a detailed instructions file, a boot.img, a .efi file, a src folder, and a nero project to get you started on making a slightly modified Windows XP SP2 CD (looks like you need to do this on a PC).

Close Name:ireid2k Posts: 125 Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Subject: Looking at the donations. . .

. . . Its kinda obvious that a LOT of companies are hoping that this becomes standard for Macs. . . it seems to be a necessity for some I would believe, good for business. Apple take note?

Close Name:Semeyaza Posts: 130 Joined: 29 Aug 2002
Subject:

good for business? whoever will develop for OsX if it can be developed for Xp and then used even on a Mac?

We are approaching the death of Mac software...

Cheers

Close Name:Bosco Posts: 1002 Joined: 03 Jun 2002
Subject: publick skoolz

The proceeder has been verified,

uh, huh.

Close Name:Intruder -   TMO Mac Specialist Posts: 3149 Joined: 07 Jul 2004
Subject:

A new .efi file. Bet that will void the warranty. Still, interesting that they (may) have gotten it to work.

Close Name:RoyalJimP Posts: 1 Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Subject: Windows on Mac

It would seem to me that though this is definitely newsworthy, I would think that if one could find a way to run windows programs in OSX without the virus laden windows holes that would be exciting. It would scare me to run windows on my Mac without all the expense and frustration of anti-virus and anti-spyware. Thats one reason I use a Mac.

Close Name:dynamicv Posts: 51 Joined: 06 May 2004
Subject:

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RoyalJimP wrote:
It would seem to me that though this is definitely newsworthy, I would think that if one could find a way to run windows programs in OSX without the virus laden windows holes that would be exciting. It would scare me to run windows on my Mac without all the expense and frustration of anti-virus and anti-spyware. Thats one reason I use a Mac.


Totally agree. Also if you have to break your workflow to reboot your computer just to run one program, it destroys the convenience of having both OSes together. It's much tidier to have a Windows-type layer in OSX running apps headlessly at full speed. I don't know if we'll ever get that though.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: The process is up on the web to get an intel Mac to boot XP

Well guys the process is up on the web for anyone to try now.
Including the modified files necessary to make a bootable XP installer disc. Go to http://download.onmac.net/ for the instructions and files to dual boot an intel Mac into OSX or Windows XP.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Windows XP inside of OSX

RoyalJimP wrote:
"I would think that if one could find a way to run windows programs in OSX without the virus laden windows holes that would be exciting."

It seems this can be done by using WinTel software by OpenOSX. Here is their site.

http://openosx.com/wintel/

And an article in MacWorld about the software;

http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/03/15/wintel/index.php

Have a good one, BB

Close Name:Intruder -   TMO Mac Specialist Posts: 3149 Joined: 07 Jul 2004
Subject: Re: Windows XP inside of OSX

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Anonymous wrote:
RoyalJimP wrote:
"I would think that if one could find a way to run windows programs in OSX without the virus laden windows holes that would be exciting."

It seems this can be done by using WinTel software by OpenOSX. Here is their site.

http://openosx.com/wintel/

And an article in MacWorld about the software;

http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/03/15/wintel/index.php

Have a good one, BB


Unfortunately it is dog slow, at least compared to native running.

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

Now if only they'd gotten a version of Windows to run on a Mac that's less totally worthless than Windows XP, like Windows 98 which is also worthless but much less so, then they'd REALLY have something.

I mean, dual-booting the absolute worst version of Windows on a Mac is kind of pointless, isn't it?

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

Quote
Intruder wrote:
Quote
Anonymous wrote:
RoyalJimP wrote:
"I would think that if one could find a way to run windows programs in OSX without the virus laden windows holes that would be exciting."

It seems this can be done by using WinTel software by OpenOSX. Here is their site.

http://openosx.com/wintel/

And an article in MacWorld about the software;

http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/03/15/wintel/index.php

Have a good one, BB


Unfortunately it is dog slow, at least compared to native running.

I haven't tried WinTel since I'm not paying $25 for what is essentially open source software (bochs). I have been able to get Linux running in Q (Qemu with a nice GUI) and by all accounts it's faster than WinTel. I would try Windows only I don't have a Windows install disk handy.

Anyway, the Qemu folk are making daily progress and it looks promising, although I'm sure it'll never be as fast as Windows running natively.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: M$ Windows

There hasn't been any talk about MS about making a Virtual PC for the Intel Mac. However, because someone was able to make windows work on the IntelMac, they may want to re-visit creating a VPC for IntelMac. Why allow people to load Windows XP for free when they can charge them for it. (Lets not fool our selfs that Mac users will purchase a licensed Windows XP software) Also, MS has the upper hand because they have, license, or make an agreement with Apple to get the technical specs for Intel OS X and the Intel CPU to make Virtual PC run efficently.

So my prediction is that M$ will create a Virtual PC for Intel Mac in the very near future. Within the year.

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