I still use safari on my Mac at home and Firefox on my PC at work. I wonder where they get these stats from? I don't see any reason to use a buggy, virus infested browser that will attract more spyware like the roach motel. Most experts say to stay away from IE unless you really like viruses and spyware.

There are certain things at my job that reqire that I use Infernal Exploiter.No plugins no hacks, just IE. Sad really.

Who cares? Firefox's marketshare trend has been upward in general. And why not? It simply works WAY BETTER than IE ever thought to.

I don't use IE, and I don't miss it. Vive le Firefox!

It's probably from Virus infected PC's that takes over explorer and reaches out to porn sites

A friend of mine just bought a new HP laptop. She downloaded and installed Firefox and Camino, but neither one can access the internet even though IE has no problem on her machine (except that for some reason it can't load any internet email pages). Maybe more people are using IE because Windows has a default setting to keep other browsers from working???

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A friend of mine just bought a new HP laptop. She downloaded and installed Firefox and Camino, but neither one can access the internet even though IE has no problem on her machine (except that for some reason it can't load any internet email pages). Maybe more people are using IE because Windows has a default setting to keep other browsers from working???

I am visiting family and don't have access to my Window computers at home, but when I return I will see what happens when I install alternative browsers. I could try my Sister's Windows system, but they are already hosed more than a structure fire. Frustrating here, she has a Linksys wireless with a signal that fades up and down, unreliable for use, they are all plugged into ethernet. I may mess with it later, but she don't have the password.

If it's an HP laptop, how can one install Firefox AND Camino. Camino only runs on macs, and HP only supplies PCs. So there could be only one logical conclusion you're lying

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If it's an HP laptop, how can one install Firefox AND Camino. Camino only runs on macs, and HP only supplies PCs. So there could be only one logical conclusion you're lying

Maybe thats why she can't get to the interweb.

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I wonder where they get these stats from?

Take a few seconds to click on the link in the story and check it out. It's amazing how many people expect someone else to do everything for them.

Maybe because Opera is now free and many are using the IE identity.

Opera 9.0 b2 is pretty cool. Worth a try, if you haven't.

Bill

Trust, but verify...

These figures purport to be from May 2006. But how they're aggregated appears to be a little skewy.

As well as showing the market share for browsers, there's also a browsers versions breakdown for the same month. When I added up the available figures for all the instances of the browsers (eg IE 6, IE 5, IE 7) and compared them with the higher level (IE) I got this:

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                Market Share         Aggregated
IE              85.89                84.21
Firefox          9.58                10.47
Safari           2.53                 3.26

By my (further) calculations, that's a difference in their figures of -2.0% for IE, 8.5% for Firefox and a whopping 22.4% for Safari. Since the data are from the same source I think we should treat them with care before drawing conclusions.

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If it's an HP laptop, how can one install Firefox AND Camino. Camino only runs on macs, and HP only supplies PCs. So there could be only one logical conclusion you're lying

Not lying, but I guess not entirely accurate either. The problem I stated above occurred with my friend's IE not connecting to internet mail sites. So I suggested he try installing Firefox and see if he had the same problem. He tried, and Firefox wouldn't connect to the internet at all. So then I suggested he try another browser, and I mentioned Camino because I didn't know it's not available for Windows. I coulda swore he said he tried that one too, but maybe he was actually trying Navigator or something. So there ya go. You're "One logical conclusion" wasn't so logical after all.

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Maybe because Opera is now free and many are using the IE identity.

Opera is very easy to detect even when Opera "identifies as IE". The IE identification is only to fool old/dumb user agent detection scripts. Opera's browser identification string contains the word "Opera" and the version number even when it is set to identify as Internet Explorer. Any noteworthy web analytics company would be able to correctly identify Opera under normal circumstances.

Internet Explorer 7 has had a public beta release recently and people are probably just trying it out. All in all, Firefox and Opera are still significantly superior products to Internet Explorer, especially considering web technology support (web developers currently have to dumb down their code and use hacks and workarounds to get things to work in Internet Explorer, and IE7 has made very little progress in this area).

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A friend of mine just bought a new HP laptop. She downloaded and installed Firefox and Camino, but neither one can access the internet even though IE has no problem on her machine (except that for some reason it can't load any internet email pages). Maybe more people are using IE because Windows has a default setting to keep other browsers from working???

Windows works FINE with any other browser. I use multiple browsers in windows all the time for testing web apps in. Her computer has some other problem, probably either because of the software installed by HP, or something else she installed.

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All in all, Firefox and Opera are still significantly superior products to Internet Explorer, especially considering web technology support (web developers currently have to dumb down their code and use hacks and workarounds to get things to work in Internet Explorer, and IE7 has made very little progress in this area).

Let's not forget the way Opera renders things differently, including css, and how Safari has problems with certain basic things with Ajax and some css display. There are no browsers that are completely standards compliant, and personally I think Opera blows chunks from a rendering standpoint.

The reason for Firefox's decline is people are finally learning the truth, get the facts:

http://www.FirefoxMyths.com

No, not truth. Not facts. Spin. Completely different animal.

Why do you hate it so much?

No those are the cold hard facts, all properly sourced. Sometimes the truth hurts.

I'm not hurt. And I like to think I'm never hurt by the truth. You make it sound like a conspiracy, which of course it isn't. They are non-official biased opinions, (largely at least - I read some of so-called cold hard facts and gave up in disbelief) not promulgated by the guardians of Firefox. Opinions aren't facts. Just points of view.

And some of these "facts" are outright lies. For example I ran the popuptest on both Safari and Firefox and there were no popups. Assuming that popuptest.com is the last word in generating sneaky popups, that is rather a poke in the eye, isn't it?

And they have nothing to do with, as I pointed out above, misinterpretation of facts. It would appear that neither Firefox nor Safari are losing market share, and IE continues going down.

You're obviously not a Firefox fanboy, but you're something just as ridiculous: an anti-fanboy. So would you like to go back to the topic and debate the market share of browsers on the Mac?

news over negligible or something of little importance make no sense... over some ....% of browser usage on maybe just mac or whatever without any relevant or supporting facts or backing of proof...

This story sais Firefox has a market share of 9.58%, but following the link in the story to the source (Market share) I see 10.56%...

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=3&qpcustom=Firefox

Seems as if someone made a mistake somewhere.

"Myth - "Firefox and Mozilla are Not for Profit" - Example

Reality - "The Mozilla Corporation pays its employees from the revenues we receive from our product. We are very fortunate in that the search feature in Firefox is both appreciated by our users and generates revenue in the tens of millions of dollars." - Source

"Now, the Mozilla Foundation, the non-profit entity that develops and distributes Firefox, is forming a for-profit subsidiary that will eventually capitalize on the browser's popularity. The Mozilla Foundation will announce today that it has formed a wholly-owned subsidiary, Mozilla Corp." - Source


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Look - nobody gives a shite except for you. Go away unless you're going to contribute to the discussion instead of being an arse.