Yo folks,

I am one of those Guests who are gun shy about these updates.

Are any of you having problems with this current update? Any peculiar behavior? Anything at all?

Or just plain fine.

My lil ole Mac just happens to be a 2 GHz Intel Core Duo with 10.4.8 under the hood.

Guest

Sorry for my typo! I have no idea why I missed it...

'Or just plain fine.' should have read as 'Or just plain fine?'

Sorry, again.

Guest, now crawling under the bed...

I installed it and it seems to be fine. Though I am on a PPC Mac so I can't say for sure that the Intel build is fine, but I trust Apple to get it right.

I also installed the iPhoto update. Yesterday I had a problem with 2 of my photos in iPhoto crashing iPhoto when I tried to open them for editing. After these updates the offending photos open fine.

Installed on an original MacBook Pro Core Duo, running great so far.

Went to the .Mac pane of Sys Prefs and things definitely came up much faster than they previously would for me, so let's hope that's not a fluke.

I read this:

Includes iChat support for USB Video Class webcams.

Now, that is truly news if it says what I think it says!

i'm in the process of updating our macs (ppc g5 towers) with 10.4.9 and have noticed that the on the computers i've updated, the eject key on the keyboard doesn't work. the only way to eject is to manually pull the door down and hit the eject button on the drive. this isn't isolated to one computer. every computer i've updated exhibits this.

has anyone else had this problem?

Everything works for me.

This is the only Mac site I visit where people are scared - regularly - of updates. I wonder if that is because TMO tends to skew older (by which I mean over 30, not "old" per se).

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Engine Joe wrote:
Everything works for me.

This is the only Mac site I visit where people are scared - regularly - of updates. I wonder if that is because TMO tends to skew older (by which I mean over 30, not "old" per se).

If you think this site is paranoid, you should check out MacFixIt.com. Those guys are the only ones that still recommend zapping the PRAM and rebuilding the desktop database as a workaround for a 404.

i've realized that the eject button now has to be pressed and held for about a second. it can no longer be tapped. i don't know if this is by design or not but it's a bit annoying to me since i'm used to tapping but it's something i'm sure i can get used to.

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jbruni wrote:
If you think this site is paranoid, you should check out MacFixIt.com. Those guys are the only ones that still recommend zapping the PRAM and rebuilding the desktop database as a workaround for a 404.

LOL

Or how about “repair permissions,” another relic of a bygone era!

I developed paranoia ever since the Great 10.2.8 Blue Screen of Doom appeared.

Or was that 10.2.7?

Still cautious, still nervous, still gun shy ever since...

Guest, that one who asked about the update

That caught my eye as well, does this mean you no longer need the ecamm (I think it's them) patch? Only one way to find out I'd think.

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Guest wrote:
I read this:

Includes iChat support for USB Video Class webcams.

Now, that is truly news if it says what I think it says!

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Rainy Day wrote:

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jbruni wrote:
If you think this site is paranoid, you should check out MacFixIt.com. Those guys are the only ones that still recommend zapping the PRAM and rebuilding the desktop database as a workaround for a 404.

LOL

Or how about “repair permissions,” another relic of a bygone era!

Too true. I remember Gruber dedicated a large amount of copy refuting repairing permissions, which I think was the final nail. That said, I seem to recall a few people around here suggesting it not so long ago - indeed, on their advice, I used to do so!

I've just updated both my CD iMac and 500mhz G3 iBook with no ill effects.

Looking at other forums, it would appear that the "eject button issue" is welcomed, in the main, as so any people with laptops hit it without meaning to!

Having it so that it is a definite action seems to eradicate this problem.

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Dave wrote:
Installed on an original MacBook Pro Core Duo, running great so far.

Went to the .Mac pane of Sys Prefs and things definitely came up much faster than they previously would for me, so let's hope that's not a fluke.

It is a fluke. You should listen to what the Dave and John show says about rebooting making things ru...oh.

Despite the snide comments here, it can be useful to repair permissions, especially in Panther. (Not everyone uses Tiger, folks.) I've seen many instances both in my own case and in helping people on an online Mac-help group where repairing permissions fixed a problem, especially if the system was slowing down. For what it's worth, rebuilding the desktop database was also useful in earlier OSes. It's not relevant in OS X, of course. During a troubleshooting session with AppleCare, the technician had me zap the PRAM--bingo, everything worked just fine afterward. Don't sneer at potential "fixes" that are 1) easy to do and 2) don't cause harm. If those don't work, fine--go on to something else. (Anyone remember extension conflicts? Lots of "experts" used to pooh-pooh those, too.)

Actually my permissions needed repairing after this update, so it is not so bygone after all. On Digg a number of people mentioned having permission messed up after the install too!

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cnewman wrote:
i've realized that the eject button now has to be pressed and held for about a second. it can no longer be tapped. i don't know if this is by design or not but it's a bit annoying to me since i'm used to tapping but it's something i'm sure i can get used to.

Not on mine. Just tap and go as normal.

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gslusher wrote:
Despite the snide comments here, it can be useful to repair permissions, especially in Panther. (Not everyone uses Tiger, folks.) I've seen many instances both in my own case and in helping people on an online Mac-help group where repairing permissions fixed a problem, especially if the system was slowing down.

But re-read what you just wrote: "repairing permissions FIXED A PROBLEM."

We're not making fun of people with problems. That's called trouble-shooting. No, what we're talking about is all the people out there who suggest that you repair permissions even when you have NO problems.

That's just pointless and it seems peope are finally starting to figure this out and aren't suggesting it as some kind of weekly maintenance thing anymore.

Man I'm glad the extension days are over...

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Small White Car wrote:


But re-read what you just wrote: "repairing permissions FIXED A PROBLEM."

We're not making fun of people with problems. That's called trouble-shooting. No, what we're talking about is all the people out there who suggest that you repair permissions even when you have NO problems.

That's just pointless and it seems peope are finally starting to figure this out and aren't suggesting it as some kind of weekly maintenance thing anymore.

That's not what was said. Please remember that not everyone knows all the context and background of a statement like:

"Or how about “repair permissions,” another relic of a bygone era!"

Doesn't that read as if repairing permissions is never needed?

I spend a lot of time on the MacTalk list and the AppleWorks/ClarisWorks list trying to help people. I've found that it pays to be careful and consider what I say, as not everyone has 14 years' experience with Mac.

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cnewman wrote:
i'm in the process of updating our macs (ppc g5 towers) with 10.4.9 and have noticed that the on the computers i've updated, the eject key on the keyboard doesn't work. the only way to eject is to manually pull the door down and hit the eject button on the drive. this isn't isolated to one computer. every computer i've updated exhibits this.

has anyone else had this problem?

thanks for the heads-up, just tested it on on my newish MacBook Pro and it is indeed the same here, no eject via f12 after update. My workaround may not suit your tastes but works well for me: go to System>Library>CoreServices>Menu Extras ...and double-click on the "eject" item. This will install an eject goober up in the main menu bar... on my desktop it also serves to close as well as open the tray should it be beyond my reach (which is most of the time).

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Engine Joe wrote:
Everything works for me.

This is the only Mac site I visit where people are scared - regularly - of updates. I wonder if that is because TMO tends to skew older (by which I mean over 30, not "old" per se).

Umm, hang on there, "scared" is a bit unfair. There are many users who, for whatever reason, including but not limited to fear and paranoia, may prefer to operate by the maxim that "if it ain't broke don't fix it".

There have been, on two occasions that I recall, instances in which forum members shied away from updating as a result of issues reported by instant/early adopters that became known and recognised by Apple, and which were patched soon after. The instant/early adopters saved a few headaches for those users who were happy to wait for a better update that carried no unwanted baggage.

Calling users "scared" is not only unnecessarily derogatory but fails to recognise that there are different folks with different strokes.

One day, perhaps, you will find yourself with, for the sake of argument, a DHCP lease issue or SMB sharing failure that arose from a hastily installed update. When that happens, you'll appreciate why some people dip their toes in the water before jumping in.

Have a nice day.

Hi, I've always recommended to download the combo installer and run it from where it was saved (usually the desktop). I've never had any problems with an install since Apple offered these combo updates. Any of you others can offer similar or better advice?

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cnewman wrote:
i've realized that the eject button now has to be pressed and held for about a second. it can no longer be tapped. i don't know if this is by design or not but it's a bit annoying to me since i'm used to tapping but it's something i'm sure i can get used to.

I frequently eject my disc when typing on my macbook pro. This might be helpful for me.

I'm currently using a C2D MacBook and when I go to download the update from "software update" it tells me the file size for the intel mac is 163 mb. Apple's website shows the update for PPC at 163mb and 310mb for the Intel Macs. Which should I trust?

Normally, I'd trust what Software Update tells you. That said, it may be that SU's figure reflects the delta update (assuming you're updating from 10.4.8 to 10.4.9)... although that number seems almost too coincidental, if you know what I mean. Someone suggested earlier in the thread to use the combo updater, which would also be my recommendation. It can't hurt, as long as you've got a broadband connection. Go to http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ to grab the appropriate installer.

10.4.9 has given me no problems whatsoever on my G5 iMac. Best of luck!

Thanks buddy.

I'm noticing that when I launch an application and then try to hide the application, the "Hide" choice is greyed out until I click on the Finder icon in the Dock and then click back on the application...

's annoying....

Anyone else experiencing this quirk....?

Apple have modified the Key Board Eject and Key Board Shutdown button delays!!! All you have to hold it down a bit longer than you than usual to make them work.

Actually, the tapping has always irritated me. There are quite a few times when I inadvertantly hit the eject button, and while I may not have a disc loaded, the eject sound and the eject icon on the screen are irritating.

Thank you for your comment regarding holding down the CD eject key - solved my problem and frustration. Much appreciated.

Pete

It's always so painful to read comments on a Mac board. So many smugly ignorant users posting misinformation as fact. If you had the slightest clue what repairing permissions was for and why it needs to be done from time to time, you'd know why you're a total moron.

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Anonymous wrote:
It's always so painful to read comments on a Mac board. So many smugly ignorant users posting misinformation as fact. If you had the slightest clue what repairing permissions was for and why it needs to be done from time to time, you'd know why you're a total moron.

Hmm, seems like you've posted a lot of the comments, "Guest." Do realize that, by not registering and logging in, you are lumped with every other anonymous poster. Thus, in essence, you're calling yourself "a total moron."

If you are replying to a particular message, use the "Reply with quote" link at the bottom right of the message. Even "a total moron" should be able to do that. Otherwise, no one knows what you're talking about.

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gslusher wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
It's always so painful to read comments on a Mac board. So many smugly ignorant users posting misinformation as fact. If you had the slightest clue what repairing permissions was for and why it needs to be done from time to time, you'd know why you're a total moron.

Hmm, seems like you've posted a lot of the comments, "Guest." Do realize that, by not registering and logging in, you are lumped with every other anonymous poster. Thus, in essence, you're calling yourself "a total moron."

If you are replying to a particular message, use the "Reply with quote" link at the bottom right of the message. Even "a total moron" should be able to do that. Otherwise, no one knows what you're talking about.

Agreed. And try to avoid calling people morons. It's not very polite, you know.

No problems with PowerBook G4 15" Last Generation regarding 10.4.9.

The update puts a delay in the eject key. Press and hold for a couple of seconds
and the door should open

R

Thanks for this I was having the same problem on 2 G5's

Since updating to 10.4.9 my keyboard eject button no longer works. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this?

Ah...That is annoying. It did the trick though. Thanks for solving the mystery!

Yes, my keyboard is having a hard time ejecting too. I have to hit it a few times or hold it down to make it work.

hmm.. a few days after i updated, some files went missing. anyone have the same issue?

I downloaded it and when i came back from squash it said that there was something wrong with it and it had been moved to trash i tried to lunch it and it would not launch. I am now downloading it for a second time.
Also i think the idea of holding down the eject button to eject cds is a good idea because when i type i always hit it and eject the cd by accident. However you should be able to edit how long to push down before it ejects.

Thanks guys, this eject thing was bugging the hell out of me.

Hold it for more than a moment eh?

Genius!!!

Love,
matt.