who cares.

there are a handful of decent word processors available on the mac, keynote kicks powerpoint's ass to the curb, we have plenty of superior email clients, and with adium and meebo, who needs microsoft messenger?

the only hole that leaves is excel, but there are quite a few excel-alternatives starting to come into their own. it's only a matter of time until the macbu is a thing of the past.

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burrito wrote:
who cares.

there are a handful of decent word processors available on the mac, keynote kicks powerpoint's ass to the curb, we have plenty of superior email clients, and with adium and meebo, who needs microsoft messenger?

the only hole that leaves is excel, but there are quite a few excel-alternatives starting to come into their own. it's only a matter of time until the macbu is a thing of the past.

The point you're missing is that there are a lot of business out there that need cross platform compatibility. So until we can deploy Keynote on the 4500 windows machines we have (and train the people), we're going to have to keep deploying the latest Powerpoint on the 150 Macs we have.
That specific topic aside, Roz was the worst speaker of a large company I have ever been witness to. I wasn't looking forward to hearing her at WWDC this year, so maybe a new manager will be better. Maybe Entourage will end up more aligned with Outlook too?
That reminds me.. I have to go log into Outlook Web Access [just] to put up my "Out of Office" message.....

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The point you're missing is that there are a lot of business out there that need cross platform compatibility. So until we can deploy Keynote on the 4500 windows machines we have (and train the people), we're going to have to keep deploying the latest Powerpoint on the 150 Macs we have.
That specific topic aside, Roz was the worst speaker of a large company I have ever been witness to. I wasn't looking forward to hearing her at WWDC this year, so maybe a new manager will be better. Maybe Entourage will end up more aligned with Outlook too?
That reminds me.. I have to go log into Outlook Web Access [just] to put up my "Out of Office" message.....

you have a point, and i guess the point i was trying to make (but did not take the time to elaborate on) is that while right now there is an audience for office on the mac, those days are numbered. alternatives are starting to crop up, and businesses are trying to find ways to wean themselves off microsoft-dependency (including the government). however, it all starts with the hobbiest/home user. i do agree, though.

..and yes, i thought the exact same thing about roz when i read the headline. whenever i can't attend, i always watch the keynotes online, and i always find myself skipping past her presentations and reading the headlines on TMO.

also-- don't forget virtualization. with windows-native versions of office available on the mac, it's becoming less important for the macbu to keep developing their versions.

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you have a point, and i guess the point i was trying to make (but did not take the time to elaborate on) is that while right now there is an audience for office on the mac, those days are numbered. alternatives are starting to crop up, and businesses are trying to find ways to wean themselves off microsoft-dependency (including the government). however, it all starts with the hobbiest/home user. i do agree, though.

My buddy and I have been having this same debate for almost a decade now. It started when the "great" Office 98 (that's what he called it, because great & 98 rhymed). Office 98 was pretty buggy, and I thought a replacement would come along. Alas, StarOffice came out free a year later. Yet still, here we are, release after release. Open Office is still free and going stronger than ever, but nothing has broken the strangle hold of Office. After a decade of going hoarse, I just don't see our prediction happening anytime soon unless something drastic changes. I thought Firefox was the nail in the coffin for IE, but I'm glad I didn't put money down on it now.