I hope you are not referring to: "If you want the full capabilities that Windows and the Mac have, you need what Windows and the Mac has."

What exactly is the comment there? I don't see any. Oh, that's it's a computer??

"Umm.... so WHERE are the comments about Apple?"

Try: "We have a lot of competition that probably shares the same view... Some of the pretenders have no enterprise expertise. That's important."

" And the way the consumer market works, the element of surprise is actually of some value."

It's only taken MS what, more than 10 years of Steve Jobs doing "And one more thing..." at MacWorlds to clue into this.

But MS's strategy of "we will blow and/or suck any hole you have" with all the media companies [both audio and video], definitely gives them a leg up on Apple in terms of gaining access. Too bad this strategy sucks for end-users.

Ballmer probably meant Google and others bring Office type apps on the web like Google Docs, not Apple as he was speaking of MS Office. But this is my opinion. I think the element of surprise where the Apple plays in. He is probably still trying to think of what the surprise will be. LOL!

Poor old Steve. He is stuck on stupid and continues to confuse the Bloatfarm offerings with rich experience. He has not learned that shoveling in yet more irrelevant "features" that 99.99% of users have demonstrated that do not want, cannot find and will not use is not "rich experience." It is just more confusing, time wasting useless Bloatfarm junk.

Instead of more, he should be focussed on better but until his thousands of drones are paid for better rather than more, his Bloatfarm will continue to produce more Bloat.

The end is near Bloatmanager; the end is near. Customers are fed up and sick and tired of the bloat monopoly offerings.

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" And the way the consumer market works, the element of surprise is actually of some value."

It's only taken MS what, more than 10 years of Steve Jobs doing "And one more thing..." at MacWorlds to clue into this.

But MS's strategy of "we will blow and/or suck any hole you have" with all the media companies [both audio and video], definitely gives them a leg up on Apple in terms of gaining access. Too bad this strategy sucks for end-users.

Yes, it was on day of this very talk that the idea of surprise being good in the consumer space is useful. He never understood that until now. Puuuhlllleeeeez. Try reading in, what do they call that?, oh right, context. He's saying that's not how they operate best. They operate best by being open and communicative with the customer, such as publishing support schedules for their operating systems, which Apple does not do. These things are important to the Enterprise space. Apple's corporate culture is deeply rooted in the element of surprise, the want you to buy products before getting a full look at it. But they work in the consumer space. Even Microsoft has used them from time to time, such as the launch of Windows 95, which had people lining up at computer stores around the country at midnight for the doors to open and sell a copy.

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Poor old Steve. He is stuck on stupid and continues to confuse the Bloatfarm offerings with rich experience. He has not learned that shoveling in yet more irrelevant "features" that 99.99% of users have demonstrated that do not want, cannot find and will not use is not "rich experience." It is just more confusing, time wasting useless Bloatfarm junk.

Instead of more, he should be focussed on better but until his thousands of drones are paid for better rather than more, his Bloatfarm will continue to produce more Bloat.

The end is near Bloatmanager; the end is near. Customers are fed up and sick and tired of the bloat monopoly offerings.

I agree with Steve here, you're just having a gut reaction to anything the CEO of Microsoft has to say and your passions of colored your perception or expression or both. It's not about Microsoft Office for the OS and MS Office for the web. It's about office suites on the web versus office suites on a rich client. There are things you can do when programming for the OS that you cannot do when programming for a browser. Not one single web office is as rich an experience as the top office suites for operating systems.