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Leopard Springs on October 26

by , 8:40 AM EDT, October 16th, 2007

Apple's highly anticipated Mac OS X 10.5, or Leopard, operation system launch is officially scheduled for 6PM on Friday, October 26. Even though the official roll out isn't until the end of the month, the Cupertino based company started offering pre-order sales on Tuesday.


Leopard will include several new features including Time Machine, a built-in automated bata backup system; Spaces, a feature that groups applications on different "virtual desktops" that users can switch between; Quick Look, which lets users see the contents of a document without requiring them to have the creating application; a redesigned Finder with Cover Flow folder browsing, and more. The new version will also include updated versions of iChat, iCal, Mail, and Front Row.

Mac OS X 10.5 is available for pre-order at the Apple retail Web site for US$129. Five user family packs are priced at $199. Customers that purchased a new Macintosh computer on or after October 1 will be able to upgrade to Leopard for $9.95.

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Subject: Can we change this Leopard's spots?
Close Name:jimothy Posts: 596 Joined: 04 Jun 2004
Subject: Leaping Leopards!

Oh come on, you missed a perfect opportunity for the perfect headling.

Close Name:Sir Harry Flashman Posts: 721 Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Subject: What to do?

Wait in line at the Apple retail store and maybe get some Leopard related swag or order online maybe get the OS earlier than 6:00 PM on the 26th.

Close Name:jpfreeman Posts: 48 Joined: 12 Jan 2005
Subject: slogan

I'm not sure about the slogan though: "add a new mac to your mac". They could have done better than that.

Close Name:dlstarr7 Posts: 116 Joined: 12 Jul 2001
Subject: Upgrade

Will Apple release an Update? Have they done that in the past?

Close Name:iVoid Posts: 62 Joined: 10 Jan 2007
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Will Apple release an Update? Have they done that in the past?


All Mac OS X releases are 'updates' or 'upgrades', since you are always installing it on a Mac (or should be).

So there's no separate upgrade vs full versions. One price for everything.

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Subject: Classic –gone?
Close Name:Sir Harry Flashman Posts: 721 Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Subject: Re: Classic –gone?

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Will the Power PC version of Leopard be able to run the Classic environment?


Probably

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Subject: Classic
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Close Name:Sir Harry Flashman Posts: 721 Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Subject: I ordered the 5 pack

I decided to I forgo waiting in line at one of the local Apple retail stores and gofor the online order. I ordered the 5 pack and will install it on at least 3 of my Macs.

I also have an iBook G3 that is still running Panther and will put my licensed copy of Tiger on that. Even though it doesn't meet the required system specs I may try installing Leopard.

Close Name:gslusher Posts: 2063 Joined: 13 Nov 2002
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iVoid wrote:
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dlstarr7 wrote:
Will Apple release an Update? Have they done that in the past?


All Mac OS X releases are 'updates' or 'upgrades', since you are always installing it on a Mac (or should be).

So there's no separate upgrade vs full versions. One price for everything.


No. Education purchasers get it for quite a bit less. At the bookstore at the university where I teach it is $79 for students, staff, and faculty.


Read what iVoid wrote. There are no special "upgrade" prices. Period. Whatever price you pay--full price, $20 less on Amazon, educational price, whatever--the price you pay does NOT depend upon your already owning Tiger or any earlier version of OS X.

Close Name:Intruder -   TMO Mac Specialist Posts: 3012 Joined: 07 Jul 2004
Subject: Re: Classic –gone?

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Will the Power PC version of Leopard be able to run the Classic environment?


Latest indications are that Classic will be dead with Leopard. So, if you need Classic, keep Tiger.

Close Name:gslusher Posts: 2063 Joined: 13 Nov 2002
Subject: Re: Classic –gone?

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Will the Power PC version of Leopard be able to run the Classic environment?


Latest indications are that Classic will be dead with Leopard. So, if you need Classic, keep Tiger.


You can have both by putting a copy of Tiger and Classic on an external HD or a partition on your internal HD, if you have enough room. That way, if you need to use a Classic application, you can reboot into Tiger.

Close Name:macinnerd Posts: 1710 Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Subject: Re: Classic –gone?

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gslusher wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Will the Power PC version of Leopard be able to run the Classic environment?


Latest indications are that Classic will be dead with Leopard. So, if you need Classic, keep Tiger.


You can have both by putting a copy of Tiger and Classic on an external HD or a partition on your internal HD, if you have enough room. That way, if you need to use a Classic application, you can reboot into Tiger.


That's good for people who use Classic programs occasionally, but re-booting isn't a practical solution for people who are need to use Classic alongside OS X everyday. Perhaps a third-party emulator?

Close Name:Jonkun227 Posts: 238 Joined: 02 Mar 2004
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Forgive my ignorance. I am genuinely trying to understand. What in the world are people still using that they need Classic on a daily basis?

The only things I've recently needed Classic for are old games like Lemmings and Myst. And certainly not on a daily basis.

Thanks.


- Jon

Close Name:gslusher Posts: 2063 Joined: 13 Nov 2002
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Forgive my ignorance. I am genuinely trying to understand. What in the world are people still using that they need Classic on a daily basis?

The only things I've recently needed Classic for are old games like Lemmings and Myst. And certainly not on a daily basis.


I can think of several reasons:

1. Familiarity. I didn't start using OS X regularly until I got an iMac with Panther. My previous iMac G4 (one of the first) and iBook (late 2001) would both boot into OS 9, so it was easier to just use OS 9, which was actually a step up from what I had been using (OS 7.5.5). I didn't have to make such a big change in thinking to use OS 9 vs OS 10.1 (not to mention that 10.1 wasn't all that stable).

2. Software (and data) that they have for OS 9 (or earlier), but which is not available for OS X or the Intel Macs. Yes, most types of software have been updated, but some companies are out of business or have dropped products. For example, I have Corel Gallery II, a clip art library. The only way I can use the clip art is to go into Classic, run Corel's software, extract the clip art I need and export it as EPS, which Pages and AppleWorks can use. The art is in a proprietary format that Corel no longer supports. They have not released information about the format to anyone else, either. (I asked Thorsten Lemke, author of Graphic Converter. He has not been able to get their specs.)

There are cases where someone went to the trouble of developing vertical market software for OS 8, but then dropped it in favor of Windows. A local store I know still uses "flavored" iMacs running OS 9 for this reason. Their inventory and POS software are no longer available for any Mac OS. They would have to convert their records to a new format, which would be VERY expensive. Yes, they're living on borrowed time. The owner/founder retired and his kids took it over. I suggested that they hunt around for used iMac G4s that will boot into OS 9, just to keep going for a while. Eventually, they will have to bite the bullet. (They could keep a couple of old Macs around to access archived data.)

FWIW, that is not an unusual situation. The US federal government has huge masses of data stored on media whose access hardware is obsolete or even non-existent. (Anyone remember the large--8", I think--floppies from the early-mid '80s?)

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