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Jobs: A Decade of OS X Upgrades Ahead

Jobs: A Decade of OS X Upgrades Ahead

by , 9:10 AM EDT, October 22nd, 2007

Mac OS X 10.5 isn't due out until Friday, but that isn't stopping Apple from putting its sights on what comes next. The future of Mac OS X still has plenty of growing room, and CEO Steve Jobs expects to offer new operating system versions every 12 to 18 months using Leopard as the foundation, according to The New York Times.

"I'm quite pleased with the pace of new operating systems every 12 to 18 months for the foreseeable future. We've put out major releases on the average of one a year, and it's given us the ability to polish and polish and improve and improve," Mr. Jobs said.

Apple's forward momentum isn't limited to it's operating system, or even its iPod line up. Mac sales appear to be strong as well, and according to analyst reports, the company is ready to move into third place behind Hewlett-Packard and Dell.

Mac OS X 10.5, or Leopard, will go on sale at 6PM local time on Friday, October 26. The launch is about a quarter behind schedule because the company temporarily shifted developers to the iPhone project. In comparison, Microsoft's Windows Vista shipped about five years late and was stripped of many of its promised features.

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Close Name:geoduck Posts: 1922 Joined: 30 Dec 2003
Subject:

I do wonder though. 10.6, 10.7, 10.8, 10.9, and then what?

10.10, 10.11...

or

OS XI
11.1, 11.2, ...

Close Name:Dreadnought Posts: 162 Joined: 01 Jan 2005
Subject:

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geoduck wrote:
I do wonder though. 10.6, 10.7, 10.8, 10.9, and then what?

10.10, 10.11...

or

OS XI
11.1, 11.2, ...


I have the feeling that Apple won't be abandoning that sexy "X" any time soon. Microsofties can claim that the annual (plus) issues of new versions are merely "point upgrades" because of this naming convention - but we simply know better. The problem is that Apple's just about run out of Big Cats. Only Lion's left.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Grammar

'Sights' not 'sites'?

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

Quote: "The problem is that Apple's just about run out of Big Cats. Only Lion's left."
===

Bobcat. Sphinx. And my favorite, Cub. (heh heh)

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Forget Big Cats ... Time for Ball Breaker

... Now the hunter is set for the kill, why not simply move to 10.6 Destroyer, 10.7 Obliterator, 10.8 Ball Breaker, etc., etc. Of course, eventually the hunter will become the hunted at which point we move to 11.1 Defender, 11.2 Castle, 11.3 Drawbridge, etc., etc.

Close Name:jimothy Posts: 612 Joined: 04 Jun 2004
Subject: Version numbers, and big cats

Apple release 10.4.10, and 10.4.11 is said to be imminent, so I wouldn't rule 10.10 and 10.11 out. Version numbers aren't truly decimals.

As for Big Cats, Lion and Cougar are both still available. Apple is reported to have trademarked Cougar and Lynx. http://www.macrumors.com/2003/07/24/apple-trademarks-lynx-cougar-leopard-tiger-and-more/ (the link in that article to USPTO doesn't work).

Close Name:Steve Ballmer Guest
Subject: It's Called Milking The Suckers!

We at MS don't pratice this! Our OS'es don't change for 5-8 years!

Close Name:concerned Posts: 7 Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Subject: etc., etc.

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Guest wrote:
... Now the hunter is set for the kill, why not simply move to 10.6 Destroyer, 10.7 Obliterator, 10.8 Ball Breaker, etc., etc. Of course, eventually the hunter will become the hunted at which point we move to 11.1 Defender, 11.2 Castle, 11.3 Drawbridge, etc., etc.

Isn't "etc., etc." just a little bit redundant, redundant?

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

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As for Big Cats, Lion and Cougar are both still available.

Technically speaking, the Cougar is not a Big Cat. There are only four Big Cats: Lion, Tiger, Leopard, Jaguar. Panther is a generic term that may refer to certain leopards or jaguars. The Cheetah isn't a Big Cat (it lacks the ability to roar, which is the defining trait).

Close Name:bluevoter Posts: 13 Joined: 30 May 2007
Subject: More grammar

"to its operating system" not "to it's operating system". A common error, but two errors in a short article doesn't look very professional.

Close Name:brett_x Posts: 322 Joined: 24 Jan 2006
Subject: Liger

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Guest wrote:
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As for Big Cats, Lion and Cougar are both still available.

Technically speaking, the Cougar is not a Big Cat. There are only four Big Cats: Lion, Tiger, Leopard, Jaguar. Panther is a generic term that may refer to certain leopards or jaguars. The Cheetah isn't a Big Cat (it lacks the ability to roar, which is the defining trait).


Don't forget the Liger. It would be a great name to debut some native VM capabilities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger

Close Name:jimothy Posts: 612 Joined: 04 Jun 2004
Subject: Big Cats

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Guest wrote:
Technically speaking, the Cougar is not a Big Cat. There are only four Big Cats: Lion, Tiger, Leopard, Jaguar. Panther is a generic term that may refer to certain leopards or jaguars. The Cheetah isn't a Big Cat (it lacks the ability to roar, which is the defining trait).

Very true. So Apple has a history of naming Mac OS X releases after large cats (as opposed to Big Cats), which makes cougar, lynx, ocelot, bobcat, etc. fair game.

Worst case scenario, they'll have to resort to generic engineering and to produce a liger (which is pretty much my favorite animal. I think Brett agrees.).

Close Name:xmattingly Posts: 266 Joined: 31 Jul 2007
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jimothy wrote:
Worst case scenario, they'll have to resort to generic engineering and to produce a liger (which is pretty much my favorite animal.
Well, as long as they don't breed a tigon. They're totally stupid and they reek like poo.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: etc., etc.

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concerned wrote:
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Guest wrote:
... Now the hunter is set for the kill, why not simply move to 10.6 Destroyer, 10.7 Obliterator, 10.8 Ball Breaker, etc., etc. Of course, eventually the hunter will become the hunted at which point we move to 11.1 Defender, 11.2 Castle, 11.3 Drawbridge, etc., etc.

Isn't "etc., etc." just a little bit redundant, redundant?


Maybe in the US, but in the UK we like etcetera, etcetera, especially when spoken with affectation.

Close Name:Bryan -   TMO Staff Posts: 7340 Joined: 11 Jun 2001
Subject:

Thanks for the grammar note, Guest. We corrected the sites/sights typo.

Bryan
Editor
TMO

Close Name:Bryan -   TMO Staff Posts: 7340 Joined: 11 Jun 2001
Subject:

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Guest wrote:
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As for Big Cats, Lion and Cougar are both still available.

Technically speaking, the Cougar is not a Big Cat. There are only four Big Cats: Lion, Tiger, Leopard, Jaguar. Panther is a generic term that may refer to certain leopards or jaguars. The Cheetah isn't a Big Cat (it lacks the ability to roar, which is the defining trait).


I did NOT know that. Thanks, Guest.

FYI, my favorite will be Mac OS X 10.9 - Manx.

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

OS X 10.12 "Tabby"

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

I hope they eventually use Ocelot. I love ocelots.

Close Name:gslusher Posts: 2088 Joined: 13 Nov 2002
Subject: And more ...

Why would Apple have to stick with living species? What about "Sabertooth"? Of course, 10.21 might be called, "Snagglepuss."

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Another cat name...

What about Pussy? With all the features that this operating system would have...why not name it Pussy Galore !!!

Close Name:MacTad Posts: 338 Joined: 05 Dec 2001
Subject: U.S. government definition of "big cat"

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Bryan wrote:
Quote
Guest wrote:
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As for Big Cats, Lion and Cougar are both still available.

Technically speaking, the Cougar is not a Big Cat. There are only four Big Cats: Lion, Tiger, Leopard, Jaguar. Panther is a generic term that may refer to certain leopards or jaguars. The Cheetah isn't a Big Cat (it lacks the ability to roar, which is the defining trait).


I'll just posit another perspective from the U.S. Department of Agriculture. From the FAQ "Big Cat Question and Answer."

"Lions, tigers, jaguars, leopards, cougars, cheetahs, and any hybrids thereof. This list is consistent with the definition of big cats in the Lacey Act."

Edited to fix URL.

Close Name:mhikl Posts: 15 Joined: 20 Aug 2003
Subject: Jobs: A Century of OS X Upgrades Ahead

I have solved Apple's Mac OX 10.xx naming difficulties.

Mac OS X 10.10 should be the end of the cat line! And besides only girls like cats and they buy too few computers.

There's been how many cats now? Six if we count X 10.0 Cheetah which seems to some to have been a beta release. But I digress. So, how many cats are left? Just as some other smart guys (Guest, Guest, jimothy, brett_x (gees, I forgot about the Liger and Tigon, genius), xmattingly (yes, xmattingly, there really is a tigon, too), have suggested; how about X 10.6 Lion, X 10.7 Lynx, X 10.8 Cougar and X 10.9 Cat (the domesticated variant in the series). With Steve's dealings with animation how about X 10.10 Sylvester, or X 10.10 Scratchy. Thus the end of the Cat series and onto the X 10.post10 series.

I think this will fit, but then in these complicated times my philosophy, that there is wiggle room in anything probable or improbable under the stars, has uncomplicated a lot of complications for me.

Now this is clever. I am suggesting that the next practical animal that also has only 3 letters in its familiar name, also only 7 letters in its Family name and also is both domesticated and wild is a practical choice. Of course I am suggesting the Dog and not just because I have a Corgi which, by the way, would make 2 great entries in the Mac OS X 10.post10 series -OS X 10.11 Corgi and -OS X 10.56 Pembroke. There are at least 72 different breeds of the domesticated Dog. If Apple comes out with a new OS X every 18 months, the Dog name could carry OS X 10.post10 through to the end of the century, easily.

And yes there are wild dogs after which this line could be named but then you run into the Cat name problem of too few wild dogs to complete the OS X 10.11-99 series and I am trying to uncomplicate things for both Apple and the Bewildered, some of whom have suggested in previous forums and Apple commentaries that Apple will sink when it runs out of Cat names for OS X 10.xx series. And by 2100 I will be long gone but I'm sure there will be another smart fellow or gal, maybe, around to help Apple with its naming difficulties up to the next millennium.

Cheers,
mhikl

Close Name:MacTad Posts: 338 Joined: 05 Dec 2001
Subject: you have got to be kidding

Quote
mhikl wrote:
I have solved Apple's Mac OX 10.xx naming difficulties.

Mac OS X 10.10 should be the end of the cat line! And besides only girls like cats and they buy too few computers.


[chant]

I will ignore ignorant people.
I will ignore ignorant people.
I will ignore ignorant people.


[/chant]

MacTad--female owner of three Macs, an Airedale Terrier and a Dachshund/Jack Russell mix

Close Name:burreyeann Posts: 1144 Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Subject:

Tasmanian Tiger gets my vote for the next OS.

Close Name:mhikl Posts: 15 Joined: 20 Aug 2003
Subject: re: you have got to be kidding

Good for you, MacTad!

Macs and dogs all the way. Fight and break gender rules to the death. Besides I know some guys who like cats but then they all have PCs, which shows just how special you are.

I hope you picked up on the humorous attempts of my commentary.

Cheers,
mhikl

Close Name:Jonkun227 Posts: 238 Joined: 02 Mar 2004
Subject:

I still think Steve should have named the "version of OS X" on the iPhone, "Cheshire" or "Siamese" or "Mittens". Something cute and neutered, but that many people like to touch.

Shame. What a missed opportunity.


- Jon

Close Name:Guest
Subject:

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jimothy wrote:
Apple release 10.4.10, and 10.4.11 is said to be imminent, so I wouldn't rule 10.10 and 10.11 out. Version numbers aren't truly decimals.

As for Big Cats, Lion and Cougar are both still available. Apple is reported to have trademarked Cougar and Lynx. http://www.macrumors.com/2003/07/24/apple-trademarks-lynx-cougar-leopard-tiger-and-more/ (the link in that article to USPTO doesn't work).


Except they already used cougar, remember panther? Yeah, they are the same thing. Of course that didn't stop them from using panther after they already used puma. They are all the same animal, Puma concolor. Oh well, ignorance is bliss I so they say, if only I could try it once.

Close Name:yoyo52 Posts: 1174 Joined: 02 Feb 2002
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How about Jaguarundi? Kodkod? Margay? Oncilla? Manul? Caracal? Serval?

Not "big cats," but gorgeous animals one and all.

Close Name:gslusher Posts: 2088 Joined: 13 Nov 2002
Subject:

Quote
Anonymous wrote:
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jimothy wrote:
Apple release 10.4.10, and 10.4.11 is said to be imminent, so I wouldn't rule 10.10 and 10.11 out. Version numbers aren't truly decimals.

As for Big Cats, Lion and Cougar are both still available. Apple is reported to have trademarked Cougar and Lynx. http://www.macrumors.com/2003/07/24/apple-trademarks-lynx-cougar-leopard-tiger-and-more/ (the link in that article to USPTO doesn't work).


Except they already used cougar, remember panther? Yeah, they are the same thing. Of course that didn't stop them from using panther after they already used puma. They are all the same animal, Puma concolor. Oh well, ignorance is bliss I so they say, if only I could try it once.


"Panther" is a colloquial term that can refer to a mountain lion (cougar, puma, catamount), leopard, or jaguar.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: OS X China

Maybe they switch to Countries, after all.

I'm looking forward on OS X Iran. That could be the last one, stupids.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: No way...theyve got more than just lion

Lion, Cougar, Lynx, Bobcat, Wildcat...but the last two aren't chic enough for Apple.

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