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BW: Apple Forecasts: Not Just Hype

BW: Apple Forecasts: Not Just Hype

by , 2:30 PM EST, December 10th, 2007

Analysts are trying to guess whether Apple's forecast for this quarter was genuine, aggressive and largely on target or still the traditional understated forecast provided in the past, according to Arik Hesseldahl at BusinessWeek on Monday.

Historically, Apple has understated its forecast for the next quarter's earnings. Then Apple exceeds "expectations." However, analysts know that and tend to generate their own forecasts.

At last quarter's financial results, Peter Oppenheimer mildly stunned everyone with an unusually aggressive forecast for their fiscal 2008 first quarter, Oct-Dec 2007. He said that sales would hit US$9.2B

"Was Apple taking a new tack and giving aggressive numbers closer to the 'real' target or still giving the understated outlook? The consensus among analysts seems to be the latter, and they're back to making predictions for the coming year that may send the minds of even longtime Apple watchers reeling," Mr. Hesseldahl wrote. "Even some of the most optimistic among them may be right."

For example, Andy Neff with Bear Stearns has set the target AAPL price in 2008 at US$249. [Others have sugested $300.]

Chatter about both expected product releases in 2008, like the 3G iPhone, what Steve Jobs might anounce at Macworld, and Apple's quarterly financial results, due after Macworld, are leading analysts to believe that nothing short of a failed product launch can slow Apple down.

Rumor mills are rife with discussions about a sub-compact notebook and/or a tablet computer which might be announced at Macworld.

Mr. Hesseldahl pointed to Bear Stearns analyst Andy Neff's prediction of 8.8 million Macs to be sold in 2008 and sales of US$32.5 billion. "Ten years ago, during Apple's darkest days, who would have predicted that?" Mr. Hesseldahl asked.

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Close Name:fo Posts: 39 Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Subject: well, me (and many others)

In those darkest days, with Apple selling for $14 (before splitting twice), I made a non-typical move and bought a large amount of stock in a single company. It was partly (maybe mostly) emotional... Apple was a company I believed in, had bought products for over a decade, and I identified with their principles (which were fairly unpopular at the time). After they bought nEXT and Jobs came back, I truly felt that they would be there for the long run and that there was nowhere to go but up (even if they were to be bought out).

A decade later, with more stock added through those years, I can honestly say that Apple will have given my children their college education. There were times when I kicked myself (in particular watching Dell bloom while Apple stuttered) and wondered at my foolishness (there were MANY more lucrative moves I could have made in hindsight), but I just had some sort of identity with the company. If they were to fail, then I would fail with them. Their goals and principles were the same as mine, so we were in this together.

Now I look prescient, but the best part is that I can tell the story and emphasize how a company with a strong vision and strict principles can change the game. Apple has shown that it's not all about the bottom line, and that the better mouse trap can succeed... that innovation can bring higher margins that can breed more innovation. My kids have heard (or suffered through) the story numerous times. It's one of the greatest stories in modern business, and it's far from over.

Go Apple

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