Well, I always assumed it was Microsoft playing games in an effort to make Macs look incredibly over-priced. If nothing else, it did made Apple look pretty vulnerable to cloners when Apple's former patent lawyer said that Apple's legal remendies would be slim to none (i.e., a weak breach of contract claim related to the EULA). He stated that the most Apple could expect was the cost of the OS X license - possibly only an at OEM license prices - or a few dollars per violation. If that's really the case, it seems like a great opportunity for someone with a little more credibility than Psystar.

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Zabasearch says that the original location for Psystar was Rodolfo's HOUSE!!!

Apple knew it all along. Apple rules.

I could use a new Mac. $400.00 for all of that would have been sweet. I already have the OS and the iLife package and the keyboard, mouse and display. I miss the 499.00 mini, that got a bunch of my friends into the Mac, they've all upgraded and none of them want to part with the older mini's since they're either using them as servers or as have donated them to family members. Well, maybe next year I can finally get an Apple refurb., the warranty is always nice, something Pystar was missing. I realize that Apple is about the premium, but this made them look vulnerable.

Shhh....it's actually us at Microsoft. We are tired of Apple being around, this is just the start of it. Shhhhh.....

All of these companies excuses check out. You guys are just Apple kiss as*es, any god forbid tread on Apple's space brings out all the dumb apple geeks, notice I mention dumb, becasue if all you geeks were smart you would not spend two miniutes caring about some low end PC box running MACOS.
Screw you guys, I am going home.

I'm a moron for trolling

I am not sure why a company would bother cloning something that cannot seize even 10 % of a given market. As of Jan 07 Mac vs Pc market share was 7.4%-8.1% depending on who you asked.

After all these years of competition and those funny ads that Apple loves to run, one thing is crystal clear NO ONE is listening to the Mac is better arguement.

I personally would not buy a Mac, Mac Clone, or Mac Hybrid. I would not even buy a Big Mac with the numbers they have come up with.

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All of these companies excuses check out. You guys are just Apple kiss as*es, any god forbid tread on Apple's space brings out all the dumb apple geeks, notice I mention dumb, becasue if all you geeks were smart you would not spend two miniutes caring about some low end PC box running MACOS.
Screw you guys, I am going home.

Kissing donkeys is all very well, but at least we're happy and can write cogent sentences.

You're an arse!

Being that the issues involved have nothing to do with Patent law, I really do not know how much faith I would put into Apple' former patent lawyer. What is at issue, are 1) copyright law, 2) contract law, and 3) trademark law. Out of the three different possible claims, the license agreement is probably the weakest. However, the trademark claim and copyright claims are fairly strong.

Clearly, Apple got the company pretty nervous about trademark claims as the company removed "Mac" from the computer's name. Apple still, however, will have a trademark claim if the company ever sells a computer with an installed copy of OSX. Many consumers will believe that Apple authorized the distribution of OSX. When the computer isn't supported, that will reflect poorly on Apple, and diminished the good will of it's brand. A clear trademark violation.

None of that matters though, as defending itself in an intellectual property lawsuit will alone put the company out of business.

You write, " If nothing else, it did made Apple look pretty vulnerable to cloners when Apple's former patent lawyer said that Apple's legal remendies would be slim to none (i.e., a weak breach of contract claim related to the EULA). He stated that the most Apple could expect was the cost of the OS X license - possibly only an at OEM license prices - or a few dollars per violation. If that's really the case, it seems like a great opportunity for someone with a little more credibility than Psystar."

Yes, you probably wouldn't buy a BMW or Mercedes either. Moreover, unlike with Windows, Apple's market share is actually rising consistently every quarter. I still use a Mac I bought in 2000 and another I bought in 2003. Since market share is based on monthly sales, no wonder Apple's numbers are comparatively low. Unlike PCs having to update every couple of years, these things last a long time.

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I am not sure why a company would bother cloning something that cannot seize even 10 % of a given market. As of Jan 07 Mac vs Pc market share was 7.4%-8.1% depending on who you asked.

After all these years of competition and those funny ads that Apple loves to run, one thing is crystal clear NO ONE is listening to the Mac is better arguement.

I personally would not buy a Mac, Mac Clone, or Mac Hybrid. I would not even buy a Big Mac with the numbers they have come up with.

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Zabasearch says that the original location for Psystar was Rodolfo's HOUSE!!!

Well, that settles it. Obviously it's a hoax. I mean, what kind of company gets started in someone's house or garage or something like that?

Oh.

Wait.

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I am not sure why a company would bother cloning something that cannot seize even 10 % of a given market. As of Jan 07 Mac vs Pc market share was 7.4%-8.1% depending on who you asked.

After all these years of competition and those funny ads that Apple loves to run, one thing is crystal clear NO ONE is listening to the Mac is better arguement.

I personally would not buy a Mac, Mac Clone, or Mac Hybrid. I would not even buy a Big Mac with the numbers they have come up with.

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I'm a moron for trolling

No, you're a moron for just being a moron.

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I am not sure why a company would bother cloning something that cannot seize even 10 % of a given market. As of Jan 07 Mac vs Pc market share was 7.4%-8.1% depending on who you asked.

After all these years of competition and those funny ads that Apple loves to run, one thing is crystal clear NO ONE is listening to the Mac is better arguement.

I personally would not buy a Mac, Mac Clone, or Mac Hybrid. I would not even buy a Big Mac with the numbers they have come up with.

Yes, would you clone a MAC it isn't even a computer, though it is computer related.

Now cloning a Mac is a different thing and a lot of people are interested.

As to real Macs, even your incorrect low 7.4% of the PC market means millions of Mac users which is certainly more than your "NO ONE." As Feste said in Twelfth Night "Take away the fool."

Seems to me that the trolls have been a little less inventive than usual. They're never the brightest bunch (they own PCs after all), but this is a little too boilerplate even for them.

Never one to compete with a better product. MS has been known to Astroturf on boards discussing technology like crazy. A week after no one was buying zunes. They were busy stating how awesome their zune was and how they'd never go back to an iPod. Like anyone in the market for an mp3 player would post like that!

When MS looses users to Apple, they're pretty much lost forever. I don't know a single person, whose switched and ever said, "Gawd, I wish I hadn't done that!" Quite the opposite is true, they become Mac's biggest supporters. Who'd a thunk it, people appreciate trouble-free computing.

So out come the MS astroturfers. They're not here to make a cogent point, they're here to spread FUD and say what a crackalacken time using Vista is. As Apple slowly gains and MS contracts, you can expect a lot more of this from the brain-trusts at Microsoft.

It's been a week since this first appeared.
Has anyone bought one?
Did the charge go through?
Was the unit shipped?
Did you receive it?
Has anyone "in the wild" seen one of these units?
Anyone?
Anywhere?
A review?
A picture not supplied by Psystar?
Any independant third party saying 'yes these guys have a real product.'

I'm leaning toward agreeing with Gizmodo. At best this is a hoax, at worst a scam.

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I am not sure why a company would bother cloning something that cannot seize even 10 % of a given market. As of Jan 07 Mac vs Pc market share was 7.4%-8.1% depending on who you asked.

After all these years of competition and those funny ads that Apple loves to run, one thing is crystal clear NO ONE is listening to the Mac is better arguement.

I personally would not buy a Mac, Mac Clone, or Mac Hybrid. I would not even buy a Big Mac with the numbers they have come up with.

Well, you're quite clearly an idiot.

And for all the trolls defending this pitiful excuse for a company, I offer the following challenge. Put your money where your mouth is. Go ahead and PayPal 400 bucks to this outfit and let us know when you get your machine. We won't be holding our breath...

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I am not sure why a company would bother cloning something that cannot seize even 10 % of a given market. As of Jan 07 Mac vs Pc market share was 7.4%-8.1% depending on who you asked.

Alas, the ignorant are still around...

Apple had not too many years ago, a marketshare of somewhere between 3-4%. Ergo, Apple has DOUBLED it's marketshare. Who would not want to be clone a product that is increasing in sales. Further take a look at Dell's declining marketshare.

On a related note, marketshare is not the same as installed user base. Even when Apple's marketshare was around 3%, some studies had Apple's installed user base, in the US, near 10%. Apple even then was a company worth being involved with.

Sorry! If you cant afford a regularly priced Macintosh or PC then maybe purchasing a computer isn't somthing you should be doing or worrying about! Try improving your income status first by going back to school or get a better job!

@ Play Ultimate

You're not sure?! You must be a diehard PC man. How can I tell?......You are living in the past of the old PC vs. Mac wars. How Pathetic! LMFBAO! Hmmmmmm.... Let's see...buy a 1 core PC because PCs have a wider market share, or buy an 8 core tower of power from a company that has a smaller market share??.....not a hard choice man! Think about it!