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I don't know how you can do better than getting both,

um... I do.

Mac OS X

Didn't he say last week Vista was not a mistake?

And how can you downgrade a new Machine with Vista when drivers don't exist for XP? Talk about doublespeak.

Neither Vista nor XP!

Ohhhh I hope Apple does a new Mac / PC commercial with this new tidbit of information.

Why would you buy Vista just to downgrade? Why not just keep the XP you have and if you have pre-XP just BUY XP.

I cannot stand windows, used it for 12 years prior to migrating to the mac, love my decision and no regrets

Also you don't get both.... You get 1 or the other. I'd like to see someone get both and run both licenses without microsoft complaining lol

Someone's forgotten to take their medicine today...

... Vista is crap.

I just can't believe that Ballmer actually said that. Microsoft really is in bigger trouble than they realize.

They were in deep trouble when Ballmer became CEO...

We are migrating thousands of users at work and it is the biggest piece of crapware I have encountered. Programs, the OS, printers and other various things just stop working for no reason and cannot be explained even by M$.

Thankfully, my home life is stress free since all our computers at home use OS X.

Isn't Vista about 3 times the price of XP?
So you pay more for less and that's a deal?

So if I have XP installed, and I pay $219.95 to buy Vista Ultimate from Microsoft (Digital Locker Download) I will be the proud owner of software that I can then Downgrade to XP again for free.

So if I have XP installed, and I pay $219.95 to buy Vista Ultimate from Microsoft (Digital Locker Download) I will be the proud owner of software that I can then Downgrade to XP again for free.

So if I have XP installed, and I pay $219.95 to buy Vista Ultimate from Microsoft (Digital Locker Download) I will be the proud owner of software that I can then Downgrade to XP again for free.

So if I have XP installed, and I pay $219.95 to buy Vista Ultimate from Microsoft (Digital Locker Download) I will be the proud owner of software that I can then Downgrade to XP again for free.

Nope. No matter how many times I repeat it it still doesn't make sense.
What is happening at Microsoft?

... he's so funny. Should run for US President. Just what we need in times of recession and economic crisis. Someone who still knows how to make us laugh.

I work for a large enterprise telecommunications giant in Canada that is a partner with M$. Our security division have declared Vista a major security risk and refuse to allow Vista on any of our systems.

Vista is so bad that they're even cautioning employees not to install it on their home PC's if they plan to connect from home via VPN. They've gone as far as to state they will not support or help anyone with Vista who experience issues trying to even connect.

Even worse, they're not even planning on testing or even looking towards future support or installation within the company.

If this is any indication of how Vista is being regarded by other enterprise entities then Vista is a lost cause for M$.

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I work for a large enterprise telecommunications giant in Canada that is a partner with M$. Our security division have declared Vista a major security risk and refuse to allow Vista on any of our systems.

I'm curious as to why they would declare Vista a major security risk when security is one thing Vista has done better than XP. People may not like how it goes about it, but it is holding up pretty well.

I can see IE being declared a security risk before Vista would be.

These guys are very entertaining!

Buy this poorly conceived and constructed car for too much money and we will let you trade us even for a five year old poorly conceived and constructed car with no support! What a deal!

Microsoft do not understand security.

Alternative explanation - Microsoft understand security but...

someone/s is/are taking back handers off the bank details hijackers, ID thieves, russian mafia etc

they simply don't care

they were told to leave it like that so the various "national security" organisations can spy on users

they got Windows from the devil when billy g sold his soul

they get a laugh out of selling "leaky boats"

they simply cannot bear the thought of 90% of the IT world saying "we told you so" when they change to the Unix type model

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Ohhhh I hope Apple does a new Mac / PC commercial with this new tidbit of information.

http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac_ads4/prlady_480x272.mov

That the only reason Monkey Boy is making this offer is to sell Vista - because it is the only why he can move them off the shelf.

In Australia, we have a "use by" date on perishable products... Vista's use by date is NEVER... i.e. Never install it.

I refuse to install it on any of the machines in my company and will not allow it to interface with my systems... PERIOD.

You can't. When Vista Basic gave me headaches during initial setup (Freeze up's, BSOD, HP Crapware causing probs), I looked for XP drivers on the HP site to downgrade and guess what? THERE ARE NONE. Service Pack 1 STILL will not install and no solution to that problem has worked. VISTA SUX!!!