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NYT: Gartner and Even MS Engineers Think Windows Must Change

NYT: Gartner and Even MS Engineers Think Windows Must Change

by , 2:55 PM EDT, June 30th, 2008

While Apple and the Linux community make frequent improvements to their OS, Windows has become an obsolete monolith, according to the New York Times on Sunday. The design deficiencies of Windows are now becoming painfully obvious; it could use a rush of fresh air.

"When IT professionals and consumers got a look at Vista, they all had this same question for Microsoft: That's it?" wrote Randall Stross. Ever since then, while IT managers have slowly worked towards adopting Vista, observers and even Microsoft engineers have been asking themselves what's next as Microsoft plugs holes, fixes the fixes that never worked, and continues to rest is laurels on an aging architecture.

Apple, in contrast, had to make some dramatic changes in the late 1990s just to stay in business. With their backs against the wall, Apple introduced Mac OS X while giving customers a way to run their legacy Mac OS 9 applications with "Classic" mode.

Mr. Stross asked Arvadis "Avie" Tevanian, formerly with Apple and the father of Mac OS X at Apple, if Microsoft could make the same kind of switch. "Perhaps, but I don't know if it has the intestinal fortitude," he said. "At Apple, we had to. It was a matter of survival."

Microsoft, on the other hand, has not elected to make any radical changes. Mr. Stross pointed to the April 2008 Gartner report "Windows is Collapsing" which said that 20 years of legacy code and backwards compatibility will prevent the timely updates needed. "Windows must change radically," the report said.

Even some Microsoft engineers agree, but they're relegated to internal research groups. Those engineers believe that a fresh start is needed to eliminate the crashes and security problems built into the aging architecture.

While the industry seems to be agreeing on more and more that something must be done about the state of Windows, TMO notes that another question arises. Given the fact that IT is locked into Microsoft technologies, one has to ask whether Microsoft will 1) pay a catastrophic price for their current approach, 2) drift unaware into hard times, or 3) more or less continue on forever as the default choice for the enterprise.

So far, Microsoft hasn't had to pay a dramatic price for the current state of Vista, and that's a powerful incentive to continue business as usual.

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Close Name:YodaMac Posts: 29 Joined: 21 Mar 2007
Subject: Matter of Survival

As the Apple folks admitted, they made such dramatic changes "as a matter of survival". I don't expect MS to make such sweeping changes unless it is for them too a matter of survival.

Until then, business as usual.

Of course, last ditch survival efforts don't always work out as successfully as Apple's did.

Close Name:Tiger Posts: 1018 Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Subject: yes, they are paying

"So far, Microsoft hasn't had to pay a dramatic price for the current state of Vista, and that's a powerful incentive to continue business as usual."

They're paying everyday.

Apple's sales of laptops jump 61%.
Corporations are admitting that they're all using Macs now.
Developers are jumping on the bandwagon in droves.

Just read the headlines daily.
It's going to be a hefty price for Microsoft.

Close Name:salparadise Posts: 17 Joined: 02 Apr 2008
Subject: Code.

Given that Open Office can make a reasonable if not perfect job of opening MSOffice files and Samba can interface with Windows all done with no co-operation from MS at all, think how much could be achieved if they co-operated.
When it's change or die, IF they get the message before Apple and Linux have taken too much of the market, then the actual mechanics are the least obstacle. It's the Microsoft mindset that could prove to be their undoing.

Close Name:Guest
Subject: They're not changing, and it is costing them.

I agree with the other posters here that MS is already in a downward spiral. The simple fact is the only way they can "innovate" is to copy Apple or illegally crush competitors through their monopolistic behavior, or just buy them out if the have to (is there anyone except paid MS shills like Dvorak and Enderle who don't already know this?).

Look at the whole MS/Yahoo debacle... the only good thing that came of this is that MS saw that it would be a bad idea to buy Yahoo in the first place... MS would end up with nothing more than Yahoo's name; all their talent would end up at Google, or Apple, and MS would have lost really big... It all shows they still can't change their way of thinking...

Billy G. is the biggest rat yet to leave the sinking ship that is MS... Now with only Sweaty Steve running things, it will all go downhill from here. I say good riddance to them; the sooner MS dries up and blows away, the better the world will be.

Close Name:salparadise Posts: 17 Joined: 02 Apr 2008
Subject: Ballmer

Funniest thing I ever heard about this guy is a comment from a reader on el reg or the inquirer on Bill G leaving MS.

"Help! I don't want to be left alone with Uncle Fester"

Close Name:Guest
Subject: Google OS

Maybe this is the time when Google launch into the OS business - maybe an easier-than-even-the-easiest-to-install-and use Linux or maybe a Linux with a built in virtualisation for your existing WindowsOS and a pile of apps to go with it - obviously there are already loads of Linux apps and stuff out there, but with a big, fairly well trusted name like Google behind it, who knows?

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