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Exploring the Differences Between StarOffice and OpenOffice
by , 3:45 PM EDT, August 6th, 2008
Both StarOffice 9 and OpenOffice.org 3 will offer an office suite of tools compatible with Microsoft Office. Both are based on the same code base, and both will be native on the Mac, no longer requiring X11. Sun's Louis Suarez-Potts explained the key differences to TMO and what the customer should know before selecting one or the other.
The first thing we should know, according to Mr. Suarez-Potts, the Community Manager for OpenOffice.org at Sun Microsystems, Inc., is that both products are based on the same code base, slight differences are close to zero, and one can use each product on the Mac interchangeably. The key differences are in the branding, packaging and support.
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"We at Sun are packaging StarOffice so that enterprise customers will have popular and useful extensions at hand, on the same CD, whereas for OpenOffice.org, the community has kept the download relatively lean, and if you want more extensions -- and who doesn't? -- you can download them from our repository.
"Most importantly, business users can obtain enterprise-level support from Sun (but not just Sun) for either StarOffice or OpenOffice.org in many countries and many languages. In addition to Sun's support, community support ranges from per-call support on "How to I do X?" to a complete corporate migration from MS Office to StarOffice. The community supports over 350 small companies located throughout the world that offer that kind of support."
Recently, Sun released StarOffice 9 beta, which includes a native version for Mac, and those betas do not come with support. When StarOffice 9 ships it will be identical to OpenOffice.org 3.0.
The Business Model: Compatibility and Continuity
Mr. Suarez-Potts explained what's going on behind the scenes. "The business of supporting OpenOffice.org and, for that matter, StarOffice is in fact growing astonishingly fast around the world. The Mac element is pivotal, too, even in areas where you see few Macs, such as in India -- though that may be changing, too.
"But the Mac presence grants CIOs and others tasked with choosing the right software for their organizations the assurance and confidence that they can adopt the OpenDocument Format (our native format and the only published ISO standard file format for office documents) and have an office array that includes Macs, Linux, Solaris, Windows and so on.
"In short: OpenOffice.org and the Mac version in particular, suture the wounds inflicted by 20 years of divergence. The connecting thread is the file format and the understanding that what counts is creating, communicating, preserving files in a format that resists the fragility of monopoly and the reliance on any one company.... In fact, there is a a plugin that gives users the ability to read/write ODF, and with Open Office 3.0 and StarOffice 9.0, we'll have native support of OOXML, which MS Office 2007 uses."
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Details: Selecting the Right Product
TMO asked about other details that the customer should know about that would help them decide which package to use.
"StarOffice is pitched more to those who want the indemnification against suit by Microsoft: governments, OEMs and to those who want the ease of having at one go the application plus the most useful extensions," Mr. Suarez-Potts explained. "It's also more for those who wish to buy, again at the outset, the support, services, training that Sun sells.
"But support, services, training are also available for OpenOffice.org, and many prefer it over StarOffice because it may be in a language that StarOffice is so far missing, or because an officiating body has insisted that the license of the application be open. StarOffice is built with open-source software (same code as OpenOffice.org) but the license of the actual application is closed.
To make modifications, one can easily download the corresponding OpenOffice.org code and work with the community."
In one sense, that puts OpenOffice.org a little further out the edge due to community contributions. StarOffice has the advantage of being the more thoroughly qualified product. That's very similar to the difference between the enterprise supported Red Hat Linux and the community work with Fedora.
On the other hand, if a user doesn't speak one of the dozen languages supported in StarOffice, OpenOffice.org supports over 100 languages.
The Macintosh Story
In earlier times, the community struggled with the coding, support and movement to the Mac OS X platform. That's why the early versions of OpenOffice were X11 only -- it was easier to port. However, for the last year or so, Sun has made a commitment to the Mac and has assigned engineers to the native port. Even so, Mr. Suarez-Potts pointed out, the project remains a profoundly community effort.
He also wanted readers to know that when StarOffice 9.0 ships, customers will be able to download it from Apple. Governments and businesses will be pleased to know that it is built with open source software but carries with it the assurances of a shrinkwrapped commodity. Also, it will work with MS Office (modern and archaic) and all ODF implementations, as well as a host of other formats.
Finally, Mr. Suarez-Potts pointed out that the openOffice.org team invites participation from everyone. One needn't be a developer, and the vast majority of contributors are not. Many just want to contribute time, expertise, skills, passion. As a result, the community has artists, translators, marketers, and so on, and they're all working together, changing how an essential commodity is made and distributed ... and having a lot of fun.
Getting the Software
Sun's StarOffice Website has a link to the beta program for version 9 where a Mac native verson is available. OS X Tiger or later is required. Star Office 8, the latest release version, is available for Windows, Linux and Solaris, but not for the Mac.
OpenOffice.org 2.4.1 is the latest release version for Mac OS X and requires OS X Tiger or later. The second beta of OpenOffice.org 3 for Mac was released on March 19th.
When StarOffice 9 and OpenOffice.org 3 for the Mac are released, they will be essentially identical with respect to the code and functionality. The StarOffice 9 release is planned for early fall.
Observer Comments
Thanks, John, for the opportunity. Naturally, I wrote a lot more than was ultimately included! I'm hoping here I can clarify a few points.... Such as:
* For the free beta, support is not axiomatically included. You would have to buy it. Basically, then, the difference between the two is branding. That said, one can easily buy support for OpenOffice.org/StarOffice. We list lots of options at http://support.openoffice.org/
* Sun does not support the 350 companies I mentioned.
Rather, OpenOffice.org lists these (and a lot more, by now, I am sure) as a free courtesy to the community. These companies range from tiny to large, and are all over the world. A project of mine is to build local communities--the local ecosystem--that would provide support for all users of OOo, in their native tongue.
* A confusion: you can obtain the link for the beta application from the Apple software download site now; it's there at this moment and represents a huge percentage of downloads. I'm sure the finished version will be there, too, as a link, but I can speak only to what is there now--what you can get at this moment. We'll also put a link up to the OpenOffice.org site, along with the appropriate language.
The most important thing: this is usable and not just useful software. I use it daily for creating all my texts, including presentations, spreadsheets, documents, etc. I have added, to both StarOffice beta and OpenOffice.org 3.0 beta, numerous immensely useful extensions, my favourite being the calendar from Mozilla, which works particularly well with the applications and which gives users the long-sought functionality of groupware. See Mozilla's Lightning Project, http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/lightning/. We have designed it so that it works neatly and powerfully with OpenOffice.org/StarOffice regardless of platform.
Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:56 pm Subject: StarOffice vs. OpenOffice
Both are bit late to pony up to the Mac platform without using X11. NeoOffice has been doing this for sometime.
http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/download.php#download
Quote"StarOffice is pitched more to those who want the indemnification against suit by Microsoft
Fom Wiktionary
QuoteIndemnify; To save harmless; to secure against loss or damage; to insure.
I doubt that Sun is actually selling insurance against any claims by Microsoft. In that case how would StarOffice protect the user from such claims? For that matter unless an "OEM or Government" has a contract that states that they may only have MSOffice and no other suite of business applications on their systems, what claim could Microsoft make? That the customer purchased a fully functional product at a more reasonable price? That's done every day. That's called the free market. Sounds like marketing-speak to me.
On the other hand, I like the idea of StarOffice having all of the extensions and OpenOffice being the stripped down version. That kind of choice is great.
Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:01 pm Subject: Thanks Mr. Suarez-Potts - definitely a good development!
I think Sun/Suarez-Potts have a really customer-friendly attitude here. We all benefit from loosening the tyranny of MS Office and reducing the Microsoft tax.
One huge advantage of open-source/free software is that, irrespective of cost, installation is so much easier - go to web site, download, install; compare that to: dig out credit card, pay, get link in e-mail program, go to web site, download program, copy/write down 25-digit code, install, run, type in 25-digit registration code...
I also think it's great that someone from Sun/StarOffice is talking to TMO!
I am saving up to go back to a mac - had enough of windows - it has no future and you spend more time sorting it out than getting on with your work - I am preparing for the transfer by moving my stuff from Microsoft to Star Office or Open Office so shall be ready for it. Open office is far superior to Microsoft - not just far better value.
Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:50 am Subject: Mac OS X support will be baked in automatically now
Of course NeoOffice is and has been supported for years. Hoever note that it's also only updated to 2.2.4, the big draw of the OpenOffice port is that Mac OS X support will be baked in every single new release of the main OOo trunk.
From the NeoOffice release notes:
"NeoOffice 2.2.4 includes all of the features in OpenOffice.org 2.2.1"
I've been using NeoOffice for a couple years, even though I own Office 2004 for the Mac. The new beta of OOo 3.0 works really well on my Mac. In fact, I'm also using the latest developer's build from last week.
I'm not recommending or slighting the NeoOffice effort, but it's a huge benefit to the Mac community to not have to wait for specialized porting of updates, they will be available at the exact same time as all the other platforms supported.
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