That #2 of 100 collector's Pink Zune I bought on eBay is going to be worth a FORTUNE, just like a pink Edsel.

HAH, ha-ha ha haaaah...!

M$' product matrix is like a marble table top held up by a peculiar array of toilet paper tubes. Doesn't matter how many you use to prop it up; weaken one or two and the whole thing will eventually topple.

So all 18 people who still use a Zune can spend the next year waiting for M$ to rip off a proven Apple concept once again. Has Ballmer even considered that once again M$ has an opportunity to at least attempt to improve on a design instead of stealing it and passing it off as "ground-breaking and original"?

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"There's only so much one failure can do to support another."

The company, no. It's products, YES.

-Dan

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geoduck wrote:

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"There's only so much one failure can do to support another."

I love that line.

NOW can we start using the words Beleaguered and Microsoft in the same sentence?

Microsoft reminds me of a dog trying to walk through a doorway with a bone that's too big. It just keeps trying to force its way through.

Microsoft is a failure in the portable music business and everyone knows it. They would first have to overcome the negative opinions of the buying public to even begin to convince someone to buy the Zune. With the dominance of iPod they should see that's too much to overcome.

Management obviously doesn't realize the damage this is doing to its image and more importantly the Microsoft brand. Someone over there in Redmond needs to suggest getting the heck out of the portable music biz.

-Dan

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There?s only so much one failure can do to support another.

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Photodan wrote:
Management obviously doesn't realize the damage this is doing to its image and more importantly the Microsoft brand. Someone over there in Redmond needs to suggest getting the heck out of the portable music biz.

I love most of Microsoft's products and personally dislike the iPod since they (try to) lock you into itunes (which sucks) and are at least $50 more than an equivalent mp3 player and you are mostly paying for the "cool" appeal of the ipod. Surprisingly I hate the zune even more because Microsoft did the same stupid thing, it doesn't even work with WMP or their own plays for sure technology so it won't work with the free legal ad-sponsored music website spiralfrog.com
Microsoft should have used windows mobile on it but improved the media player and made it the main part of it and kept it compatible with any music program and plays for sure.

if they did that ms wouldn't have any of their products today, just like many other companies. most of their products (windows, xbox, sql, office, sharepoint, exchange, messenger) were considered failures at first.