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Google Co-founder: No Mac Chrome an Embarassment
by , 11:10 AM EDT, September 4th, 2008
Mac user and Google co-founder Sergey Brin may be happy that his company's Chrome Web browser is out and in the public spotlight, but he called the current lack of a Mac-compatible version "embarrassing," according to Valleywag.
In an interview with BoomTown's Kara Swisher, Mr. Brin asked if she would try out Google Chrome, to which she said "no," because there isn't a Mac version available. Mr. Brin replied ""I know, I know, it's embarrassing."
He added that he doesn't know exactly when a Mac version will be available. "I'm asking every day. I hope it'll be a matter of months," he said.
Google introduced its Google Chrome Web browser on September 2. The browser is built on WebKit technologies, like Apple's Safari browser, and also technologies used in Mozilla's Firefox. The company claims that its Web browser offers users a more streamlined experience geared towards people that spend an extensive amount of time online.
Google has said that Mac OS X and Linux versions of its browser are in the works, but has not committed to a release date.
Observer Comments
"...The browser is built on WebKit technologies, like Apple's Safari browser, and also on Mozilla's Firefox...."
That line is so misleading it makes it sound like parts of WebKit were used, Chrome is not built on "Webkit Technologies", it's is built on WebKit.
Secondly it was not built on anything from Firefox, some ideas may have been taken from Firefox but not actual "technologies" in the same sense as WebKit.
Lastly Firefox fanboys seem to think the 'Omnibar' was an idea taken from Firefox, correct me if I'm wrong but was OmniWeb not the first browser to have that feature. The answer is in the name.
Who's embarrassed? The 90% of the world that uses Windows isn't.
Must be a problem with Apple, they're always last to the table anytime something is cross platform. Must be very difficult to code for the Apple platform, especially when it's such a small share of the market.
The embarrassing thing is that even using Webkit they're unable to make it work for the Mac.
QuoteGuest wrote:
Who cares what it's built on! He's right on about no Mac or Linux version. They should have released compatible verions at the same time.
I thought Mac's were already perfect, why would someone need a new browser if you've already got Safari. Isn't that better than getting head from your God of choice? The marketing for mac would make you think so anyway
QuoteGuest wrote:
Who's embarrassed? The 90% of the world that uses Windows isn't.
Must be a problem with Apple, they're always last to the table anytime something is cross platform. Must be very difficult to code for the Apple platform, especially when it's such a small share of the market.
The embarrassing thing is that even using Webkit they're unable to make it work for the Mac.
I LIKE redheads. Besides, being a redheaded step-child is preferable to being a lousy troll.
Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:21 pm Subject:
They are trying to take market share form IE (and rightly so) not Safari which holds the biggest share on the Mac. So it only makes sense for them to pay more attention on the Windows Platform.
Besides you (I presume your a Mac use) already have most of Chrome only it's called Safari. Or download Webkit to get an even closer match. Which also answers your first question, that's what makes the difference on what it's built on.
QuoteGuest wrote:
Who cares what it's built on! He's right on about no Mac or Linux version. They should have released compatible verions at the same time.
They are trying to take market share form IE (and rightly so) not Safari which holds the biggest share on the Mac. So it only makes sense for them to pay more attention on the Windows Platform.
Besides you (I presume your a Mac use) already have most of Chrome only it's called Safari. Or download Webkit to get an even closer match. Which also answers your first question, that's what makes the difference on what it's built on.
soo just because you like compatibility your a troll? personally i dont like having to shop around when im looking for sw. and i do not wish to pay an extra $10 fee because it has to be modified for apple. THERE IS NOTHING BETTER ABOUT APPLE THEN WINDOWS get over it.
BTW: Apple = (wanna be) Big Brother
Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:25 pm Subject: Re: Life as a redheaded step-child
QuoteAnonymous wrote:
Who's embarrassed? The 90% of the world that uses Windows isn't.
Must be a problem with Apple, they're always last to the table anytime something is cross platform. Must be very difficult to code for the Apple platform, especially when it's such a small share of the market.
The embarrassing thing is that even using Webkit they're unable to make it work for the Mac.
Guest, also known as Cohiba, also known as NFYU.
Of course, it is much easier to troll when you are anonymous, which you aren't anymore.
Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:37 pm Subject:
Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:38 pm Subject: Embarrasment -- more like a missed socialnet opportunity
Oh, sorry. OK, Mac's are used in elementary schools. But, still not much of a tool. The elitist (read graduated from 8th grade) computing dummies that have lots of $$$ to spend get a Mac, those uncompatible toys with lots of expensive APPLE add-ons.
That is why Mac owners rave about APPLE, they can afford toys that cost many hunderds of dollars more than they are worth, like the ipod mp3 players. Whoa, you have to be stupid to spend that much money for an ipod.
QuoteGuest wrote:
soo just because you like compatibility your a troll? personally i dont like having to shop around when im looking for sw. and i do not wish to pay an extra $10 fee because it has to be modified for apple. THERE IS NOTHING BETTER ABOUT APPLE THEN WINDOWS get over it.
BTW: Apple = (wanna be) Big Brother
I have no problem shopping around considering I do not have to move from my desk, not very hard just takes a few clicks. Or just one in Amazon's case. : )
Nor do I have a problem paying an extra $10 so I don't have to pay an extra $60 for an Antivirus software. Which also slows down my machine and makes my $2000 machine run more like a $1000 machine.
Just a thought.
P.S
Computability? the last time I checked the Mac is capable (compatible) at running more Operating systems and any other PC.
I think that they should release a Linux version as well, since the Linux community is used to test software, however, I know that this is a direct hit on M$ IE, hence the hurry to release Win Version. In the Linux Arena the only "competitor" is Firefox, which shares come code with Chrome.
I don't know why everybody is arguing about mac's and windows. It is a computer so who cares. Anyway the only reason pc/windows users are saying mac's are crap is because they are jealous that they don't have 1. BTW you don't need another browser, if you can load web pages then who cares. Also IE doesn't have the biggest market share on macs they stopped making IE for macs ages ago.
Its seems to me all non-Apple users seem to complain about is
QuoteGuest wrote:
Oh, sorry. OK, Mac's are used in elementary schools. But, still not much of a tool. The elitist (read graduated from 8th grade) computing dummies that have lots of $$$ to spend get a Mac, those uncompatible toys with lots of expensive APPLE add-ons.
That is why Mac owners rave about APPLE, they can afford toys that cost many hunderds of dollars more than they are worth, like the ipod mp3 players. Whoa, you have to be stupid to spend that much money for an ipod.
Apple products are too expensive? Then get a F******g job.
It's not stupid to buy a product that you want (regardless of it's worth to others) as long as you can afford it with your hard earned money. Why do you think some art pieces go for $millions, because that's what that purchaser wanted and that that value he/she put it at, at them owning it.
Are they still stupid for making it in life to be able to spend millions of $ or you who can't even afford to buy an iPod or complains of it's price.
It does use code from the Mozilla project(specifically Mozilla interface to Java Plugin APIs npapi nspr nss) and lots of other projects even some from MSFT
http://code.google.com/chromium/terms.html
It doesn't even do any good to try and reason with PC trolls who just want to try and get under the skin of Mac users. Most of them are hardcore gamers who spend their hours of spare time cobbling together their PCs and playing games. They don't have a life. Their last argument for their beloved machines was the "games" argument, which went away when Apple went to Intel processors and started running all OSes and apps natively. They still try and throw out the more expensive argument even though Macs are comparably priced to PC when hardware and software is configured the same. Apple just doesn't sell bargain basement machines. Which is ironic because most of them end up spending 1000s on their machines and upgrades to play the latest and greatest games.
Safari just doesn't cut it for me. Firefox works better for me and since Opera went free, I like that one too since I get to save sessions. There's just something about Safari I can't get my arms around. Security flaws maybe
Also I use a PC at work and really admire the ability to use keyboard shortcuts for most things. At home, the Mac suits me cause I never had to rebuild it. My PC brother considered a Mac and all his co-workers at his IT shop were like 'yeah, I got one years ago.'
Not sayin' one is better than the other by any means. They are chosen by the user to fit his or her needs and budget. So be it.
Safari 4, released on June 11th, 2008 features all the innovations that Google Chrome is borrowing. If you want Google Chrome now on a mac, look for a developer preview of Safari 4. It has the js speed/stability improvements as well as the ability to save pages as applications and it looks a hell of a lot better.
Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:44 pm Subject: Re: Mac's are over rated kindergarten toys
QuoteAnonymous wrote:
Oh, sorry. OK, Mac's are used in elementary schools. But, still not much of a tool. The elitist (read graduated from 8th grade) computing dummies that have lots of $$$ to spend get a Mac, those uncompatible toys with lots of expensive APPLE add-ons.
That is why Mac owners rave about APPLE, they can afford toys that cost many hunderds of dollars more than they are worth, like the ipod mp3 players. Whoa, you have to be stupid to spend that much money for an ipod.
Quintessential trolling. Only 4.5/10 because you have trotted out really old memes.
Especially calling UNIX a toy. That is really the ultimate in trolling.
90% of the world uses windoze, 90% of the world has registry problems & gets viruses/spyware installed on their windoze based pc's thanks to browsers like IE & google chrome. Windoze must be good if it has 90% market share u fool. Who cares if its unstable,has a viruses for every damn thing & loves being restarted as long as its got 90% percent market share. Stay asleep windozzzze users & keep spending your hard earned dollars on sub standard operating systems & hardware
Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:31 pm Subject: Re: About these observer comments
QuoteGuest wrote:
Are comments to articles here always filled with such silly, childish squabbling and name calling? If so I don't think I ever want to read them again. I expect serious dialog here. Many of us are professionals.
No, most articles are not like this. Every now and then an article gets outside attention and the trolls come a-runnin'. I guess some prominent site linked to this article.
You'll notice that almost all the posters here are Guests, not regular members. MacObserver has Guest comments collapsed by default as an anti-troll measure.
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Thank you.
NFYU
For a company that claims not to "do evil", they certainly are sleeping with it with a Microsoft-only release. I realize they wanted to beat MS IE 8 to market, since IE8 is public beta testing now, but at the same time, alienating Mac users from part of their platform only gives Microsoft one more thing to say "see, doesn't work on a Mac!"
I get that Webkit and Chrome are practically the same browser, just different GUIs (Safari vs Chrome packaging), so it's not that big of a deal and Mac users can continue using Safari, or Webkit nightlies like I use... but still disappointing that Google couldn't be platform independent with its release and release to all OS at once.
Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:02 pm Subject: OK, that's funny
Release it for Mac soon! As a Mac Lover, and someone who really enjoys using Chrome for its simplicity, reliability, stability, and speed, I want that on my Mac! It is faster in my experience than Safari, although not much.
A side note about Safari, it can be just as functional and usable as Firefox with some add-ons, Mac users! pimpmysafari.com
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