I updated my G5, so far so good. Oh and it is "snappier."

Other than a nervous moment when it rebooted for the second time, 10.5.5 install went fine.

I have a MacBook and wondering if the 10.5.5 update fixes or improves airport performance? Been suffering from frequent "Drop Outs" ever since updating to 10.5

Maybe we need Viagra for our Airport?

a lot of the apple updates do the double reboot. nothing new

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I have a MacBook and wondering if the 10.5.5 update fixes or improves airport performance? Been suffering from frequent "Drop Outs" ever since updating to 10.5

No Apple operating system update ever fixes Airport, nor breaks it. The issues with Airport are purely firmware, channel, DHCP lease, DNS, IPv6, interference robustness, or third party related as well as hardware and RF issues.
You need to isolate your issue, and stop blaming the update for things you don't know what cause them.

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DeanMc wrote:
I have a MacBook and wondering if the 10.5.5 update fixes or improves airport performance? Been suffering from frequent "Drop Outs" ever since updating to 10.5

Now that is interesting. I had problems with an earlier version that went away with an update, I forget the version numbers.

gopher... thanks for the assessment regarding my airport woes, but when I had 10.4 I had no issues with airport at all. As sson as I installed 10.5 (no other changes) I started getting DROPS. Every subsequent update lessens the number of drops per hour... but doesn't eliminate them.

I'd really appreciate direction on how best to dioagnose what problems I might have.

Thanks!

[quote="gopher"]No Apple operating system update ever fixes Airport, nor breaks it. The issues with Airport are purely firmware, channel, DHCP lease, DNS, IPv6, interference robustness, or third party related as well as hardware and RF issues.
You need to isolate your issue, and stop blaming the update for things you don't know what cause them.

Actually, whether you're right or not about the firmware issues, I and 296 other users in the Apple thread below have had serious problems with airport dropouts since moving to Leopard (with both Airport basestations and 3rd party routers too), that I never had with previous versions os OS X:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1397364&tstart=0

By the way, you'll notice at the top of the thread it says: "This question is not answered." You really ought to be a little nicer to people before attacking them for asking simple questions like this.

Well gopher,

I think that the most cases it's networking problem, but this release (10.5.5) break some little things in airport.

Before update, I configured my wireless with no broadcast SSID, and after, think what? didn't connect - ever.

I was wondering if there were net problems, but I just set up the BSSID and, voi-la, wnet working again.

Not all problems it's blame on apple, but this one, I'm shure it is.

cheers.

I DO blame the UPDATE!!!! With ervery second update airport does not work and if you don't believe it here is the very isolated proof:
I downloaded that latest 10.5.5 software update and rebooted my mac AND... airport cannot connect to my network anymore. So until there is another update I have to connect with?ethernet - great (

JB

G5 dual 2,3 / 6,5GB

I had problems connecting with 10.5.3
With 10.5.4. My video memory went bonkers (Nivida on the Macbook pro)
and the screen would go completely wack after keeping the thing awake for a few days.

NOW, with 10.5.5. if the computer is put to rest due to a usage time-out and then awakened later, after awakening from the automatic, timer based "light sleep" a couple of times, the OS wakes, the machine wakes, but not the keyboard or mouse. I actually have to shut the laptop and put the thing into a hardware sleep in order to restore functionality to the input devices.

I wonder when they'll actually fix this problem. Well, at least the video doesn't screw up anymore.

Airport has been working smoothly for me on my MBP which came with 10.5.1 when I purchased it.

I've updated to 10.5.2, 10.5.3, 10.5.4 without any problems.

Updated to 10.5.5 and suddenly, airport is dropping out frequently. Even when connected to my AEBS, websites don't load and say 'network timeout'.

Another machine that is running to 10.5.4 right next to me connects without problems.

10.5.5 has broken airport - plain and simple.

Hi there. I have an old power pc that i have just upgraded to the latest version of OS X. It has just had a new hard disk put in as the old one finally kicked it. It ran Leopard fine before but since i have upgraded it isnt working. It allows me to boot up and the operating system starts, but then it seems that finder has issues firing up and the menu bar at the top of the screen appears then vanishes for good and most of the time following this the cursor stays on the "working" spinning colour dot. If i try and open applications, ie mail, it will do this fine and now the menu bar appears, however the app will always crashes after less than a minute.

It obviously isnt stable as Finder never opens properly however spotlight still opens and searches correctly! I open Activity Monitor through spotlight and it does indeed tell me Finder is not responding as well as another user event agent. However Activity Monitor always crashes shortly after. Anyone got any suggestions? Im feeling to re-install the OS...

Many thanks!

Jon

yes, I've been having a wifi problem with 10.5.5 as well. I dont know why people are trying to say its a config issue. I have a g4 ibook and MacBook. Both now keep dropping and can't even see my wifi connection. Before the update, it was all peachy. I stopped using my pc, but now I may as well go back to it cause its much faster with the linksys card. And I know it works.

i am having the same problem and it is chronicled across the web. 10.5.5 has created airport connectivity issues for many people.

To be honest I think my problem started after 10.5.5, after doing the 1st security update that was released y/day. I did the update last night, and this morning I noticed the problem the first time.

I cannot connect to the internet anymore on my airport card. Funny thing is that I can lookup hosts and it will give me the correct IP. But I can't ping the IP. I cannot get a page up in Safari (tried URL and IPs), nor Firefox, also mail, skype and software updates don't work. I can go to my local webserver. Funny thing is that if I connect on Ethernet I have no problems.

1) I have tried starting in Safe mode.
2) I have tried clearing the Program RAM by restarting with option-cmd-p-r
3) I have checked the disk permissions
4) I have checked the DNS settings, proxy settings, firewall settings, all seems fine to me.
5) I have created a new user and the problem remains.

So it does connect to my network (I can ping my router and access my local webserver). It is not a DNS problem as it does resolve host names, and it will not bring up a page when I type the IP Address in my browser. It is not a user profile problem. It seems it does not find the default gateway or something, but the default gateway is set correctly and I can ping it.

Help?

Hi, can anyone help me out please, I have a mac book with OS version 10.5 install disc, can i use this disc to update my older version on an i mac G5 which is has version 10.3.5, any help would be gratefully received. Thankyou.

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Hi, can anyone help me out please, I have a mac book with OS version 10.5 install disc, can i use this disc to update my older version on an i mac G5 which is has version 10.3.5, any help would be gratefully received. Thankyou.

Hi there,

I just downloaded an airport patch from Apple last night for my Leopard 10.5.5. Now my wireless connection on my MacBook works. I worked before I upgraded to 10.5.5, but then stopped working. It was intermittent, but mostly it just plain old did not work. I had tried many different solutions for the problem and I could not resolve the problem until I downloaded the patch. Nothing else changed in my setup. I have not changed any other software, and my router is the same router in the same place it was before the update to 10.5.5 gave me wifi problems.

I wrote this for two reasons. 1) to help people who had the same problem as I did, and 2) to refute your wrong information.

Hello Guest,
where did you take the airport patch from ? Best regards,

just downloaded the software update (is this the one the person with the solution mentioned) with my weekly software update and Apple does mention it solves most of the problems of drop out : it's WORSE now I cannot connect anymore through airport. before that I could connect when I turned off airport on all other computers in my home (2 other macbook pro but running tiger instead of leopard. they had no problem connecting but as soon as they turned on their airport connection, I lost mine.)
now, after update AirPortExtremeUpdate2008004 even with their airport turned off no way at all to connect through airport : not even drop off after a couple of minutes (2 or 3 minutes), there is no drop off at all because there is no connection at all

I am connected through Ethernet (wire) port .

And now ?

I am the guest who just post the comment about the Airport update yesterday, I have some good news: I just went today to another forum where a guy mentionned something about getting rid of Realplayer downloader.

on this other forum the guy said: "I disabled the Real Player Downloader. Then clicked on the wireless icon, join other network, and chose my own network. I needed to repeat the join other network bit after rebooting once but since then it has worked 100%?and will keep my fingers crossed that this has done the trick."

it did the trick for me today! so I want to tell everybody try that also before going into downgrading installs
My chronology : 2 or 3 weeks ago without even any update, suddenly airport started drop off my network. I am on Leopard 10.5.5 while my kids at the same time on Tiger 10.4 were surfing without any problems. I shut down and restarted everything, reintalled the airport soft + firmware update + some updates , in between checking if it improved or not. nothing worked more than a couple of minutes or hours. I went to several forums, tried the delete plist stuff which seemed to improve a bit, but problem was back. then I could narrow the problem: when other computers were connected in addition to mine, I lost the network. each time I was alone connected no problem. as soon as kids turned on their airport I lost the network. So I kept going like that waiting for a fix. Yesterday my software update downloaded an update for Airport from apple AirPortExtremeUpdate2008004 to improve drop off issues for airport with 10.5.5 Was happy and installed it: soon to be regreted: as I mentionned, it was worse , even with no other computer connected , I couldn't even join the Internet through Airport. had to end up with the Ethernet connection , so the other computers were even more forbidden of the Internet. this morning I was again on this forum (with wired ethernet connection) and I read this intervention regarding RealPlayer downloader. It rang a bell , I remember I downloaded a few weeks ago real player to listen to some Internet radio shows. it never really work fine and I forgot about it. I know I know... should have thought of that bec it was the only new install at that time. but I didn't even use it nor open at startup. This morning I noticed event though I never used it, Real Player downloader was open (against my back sort of) !!! SO it may have been the cause of my problem. I quit it , trashed it, emptied the trash, turned off airport (which still worked for my printer BTW) and shut down everything as a matter of precaution. And restarted again computer, airport and modem then once everything had the right lights showing up and running, turned on my airport again and miracle : connection to Internet was now possible. Have not tried yet to turn on the other computers, but that's a good step. so I kept the Airport update and take back my bad words against it!
Hope this help: get rid of stupide useless Realplayer (it was the first time even in 25-year computer life that I installed it! now I know, could live without it for 25 years and will continue for the next 25!

Same problems here - however, RealPlayer is not on my MBP anywhere (running OS X 10.5.5). I still think there is some core issue here that doesn't involve rogue software applications - it seems like something Apple related.

i think this has something to do with the keychain, firmware on aiport extremes and the last updates for leopard.

I have an airport channeling 15 macbooks internet traffic in a college (not ideal but worked until this week). Every macbook (apart from mine) has reverted to an old password for the network in the keychain. This would be an easy thing to fix but the macbooks cannot see the network, not even when you sit one next to it.

Interestingly, on the odd occasion i could get one on, trying to get another to attach would seem to force the other to drop connection.

Have tried going back to old firmware on the airport, have tried updating macbooks.. nothing works. THis is causing major problems and currently we do not have a solution.

Will post something if the mac IT guy and me can figure it out.

To solve all of your wireless connection woes, go back to Tiger. I've had nothing but problems going from 10.4 to 10.5. Apparently, the only way to upgrade to 10.5 is to either to a complete wipe and install or archive and install. I did the 'update' route and after it installed, I couldn't logon to my machine! I looked up the Apple KB and it is a noted problem. Tried the methods they've provided and it didn't help. I ended up doing a fresh install of 10.5. And now it's installed, this wireless signal bug is popping up. I've spent 3 hours on 10.5 and it's making me want to go back to Tiger. I thought the Apple OS is just a simple plug and play and not referring to work arounds when things are not working properly.

I feel 10.5 is going the way of Windows OS. What a pity!