Apple mixed the Unix and end user in such a genius way that it only takes Terminal.app to launch to enter the Unix World.
Linux community still can't understand how clever is to hide /usr , /bin stuff from GUI file manager.
Also having Fink, Macports (even both of them) along with a full Developer tools installation doesn't have even the slightest effect on how OS X performs. Try same thing on Windows.
There are "Windows geeks" too and as MS opportunistically cancelled the "real" Windows 7 and turned it to a mix of Windows XP/Vista, they won't be happy at all. The .NET is not the .NET MS envisioned nor the Vista isn't the Vista which was originally planned.

I have to disagree with the theory and conclusion presented here. While geeks did have a negative reaction to Vista, they tend to have a negative reaction to almost everything. Show me one instance of OS change where some geeks somewhere didn't throw a hissy fit over some perceived flaw

What really sank Vista was when normal, non-geek type people tried to install it and encountered all of those flaws that glitched everything, along with the "in your face" security system, the "we do not recognize your printer, we will crash now" push to force users to buy new stuff, etc. Then these normal users would go to work and gripe and complain about Vista to their coworkers all day, while the mac user sits back, with a smug grin of satisfaction on his face, waits for the vista user to run out of steam before regaling coworkers on the ease and joy of a trouble-free Mac upgrade.

Vista SP 2. It will be the first usable version of Vista.

MS has to rename it just because Vista has such a poor reputation.

I don't think this is as big an issue as the article makes out.

The iPod was roundly panned by geeks for being cut-down and feature small. But it did a few important things really, really well, which is what the "average" consumer wants.

I'm not denying that appealing to the geek crowd adds street cred. And Apple gaining respect in the Unix world for things like WebKit is not a bad thing. But the Mac that started Apple on the comeback path wasn't "geek cred"; it was the bubble iMac. It appealed to the average consumer.

Apple is winning because it (mostly seamlessly) appeals to average consumers and geeks with a single product line, and makes the user feel in control. Vista is successfully irritating even the traditional Windows stronghold of business IT departments.

Of course the simple fact that Vista shipped with almost none of the new features under the hood that MS had touted at all the previews didn't help endear Vista to anyone either.

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I have to disagree with the theory and conclusion presented here. While geeks did have a negative reaction to Vista, they tend to have a negative reaction to almost everything. Show me one instance of OS change where some geeks somewhere didn't throw a hissy fit over some perceived flaw

What really sank Vista was when normal, non-geek type people tried to install it and encountered all of those flaws that glitched everything, along with the "in your face" security system, the "we do not recognize your printer, we will crash now" push to force users to buy new stuff, etc. Then these normal users would go to work and gripe and complain about Vista to their coworkers all day, while the mac user sits back, with a smug grin of satisfaction on his face, waits for the vista user to run out of steam before regaling coworkers on the ease and joy of a trouble-free Mac upgrade.

I've complained so much about Vista, I just can't do it anymore. Never in my life have I come so close to punching my machine like Mike Tyson would, or been tempted with picking it up and throwing it into the wall. WORDS CANNOT ACCURATELY DESCRIBE MY HATRED OF VISTA. And I'm supposed to change a bunch of different settings and perform certain tweaks to make it work the way I want. No, that's not the way it works. I'm the consumer. I make the call. FU VISTA.

John - can you PUHLEEZE persuade the top honchos at TMO/IPO, no more "Guest" posts on these boards? The way it is now just begs for trolls to join in, and I for one don't want to read their junk any more, without being able to respond specifically to a single person.

Please.

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John - can you PUHLEEZE persuade the top honchos at TMO/IPO, no more "Guest" posts on these boards? The way it is now just begs for trolls to join in, and I for one don't want to read their junk any more, without being able to respond specifically to a single person.

Please.

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John - can you PUHLEEZE persuade the top honchos at TMO/IPO, no more "Guest" posts on these boards? The way it is now just begs for trolls to join in, and I for one don't want to read their junk any more, without being able to respond specifically to a single person.

Please.

Umm "iJack" (off), I guess your just too smart to use the Hide Guest Post setting. Talk about the guests making lame posts, your name fits you well, you are a tool.

and you are just joined him in the tool box!

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John - can you PUHLEEZE persuade the top honchos at TMO/IPO, no more "Guest" posts on these boards? The way it is now just begs for trolls to join in, and I for one don't want to read their junk any more, without being able to respond specifically to a single person.

Please.

Umm "iJack" (off), I guess your just too smart to use the Hide Guest Post setting. Talk about the guests making lame posts, your name fits you well, you are a tool.

You just made his point.

@JackOff - Just because you put your name to a dumb post does not make you correct.

Tony