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by - November 30th, 2004

After my last column, I received a pantload of responses about the iPod Photo. A lot of readers were wondering why in the world the new iPod Photo could not be used in the field as a storage device for digital cameras. Some readers thought you should be able to omit the computer altogether and go straight from camera to iPod to slide shows for friends and family.

I gotta admit, I love this idea. And I have a feeling that it has crossed Apple's mind as well (although they can't be too happy about omitting the computer, so don't hold your breath).

Turns out that a little digging as on how the iPod Photo really works shows that the current technology in the iPod will have to change before we can do either of those things.

A lot of folks figured it would be a simple thing to do away with the Belkin Media Reader and go straight from camera to iPod. There is a difference however. The Belkin Media Reader simply reads five different types of media, and each type always works the same, the same way all hard drives work the same, whether built by IBM or Hitachi. The media reader simply reads the media and data is poured into your iPod.

Different digital cameras handle data differently. So a USB connection from camera to iPod requires that drivers be available for each type of camera that might be connected to your iPod, and that the iPod properly load the appropriate driver at the right time. Remember how iPhoto supported more and more cameras over time? More and more camera drivers were being developed.

This is not an impossible task, but will require some modifications to the iPod OS, most notably the ability to autosense many different devices as they are connected. Then it has to load a driver to properly handle the data that is on the camera before it can move that data.

I say that we just might see this feature sooner than later. There is more than enough room on the iPod to hold all of those drivers, although users may wonder why the operating system on the iPod Photo uses so much more of its hard drive than its visually-challenged brethren. Keep in mind all you would be able to do is store pictures taken until you could get to a computer and download them. Until we see a significant change in the technology used in the iPod, that won't happen.

When you use iTunes to sync your photo albums to an iPod, it compresses the pictures and hides them in iPod's secret directories that you can't access directly from the Finder. At first, it might seem that this is to conserve disk space on your iPod, but there happens also to be a checkbox in the photo sync window that will copy your full-size images as well. If you check this box, the full-size images are copied to your iPod, but not used for display on the iPod. They are only accessible through the Finder when your iPod is in disk mode.

So one thing seems clear: this compression is necessary because the iPod's relatively puny processor would choke like the Buffalo Bills on anything but highly compressed images. The iPod will have to be a very different beast to have enough oomph to deal with the multi-megabyte images that today's digital cameras produce.

The complaints that photo sync takes much longer on a Windows PC might just be caused by a compression algorithm that is AltiVec enabled. If that is true, then I applaud Apple's attempt to ensure that the experience is better on a Mac, if only a little. Even though the iPod is a big part of their business right now, I don't see Apple forgetting for a second that its bread and butter is the Macintosh.

And who knows, one of these days I may actually write a column about Macs again.

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Close Name:Mace Posts: 9015 Joined: 07 Aug 2003
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So when can Apple get the job done. I hope making the Pixo more sophisticated will not slow down the transfer significantly.

Btw, is the firewire or usb speed sufficiently fast for transfer of data from camera to iPod?

Close Name:zpok Posts: 80 Joined: 06 May 2004
Subject: iTunes is the key

If iTunes is used to set up your iPod photo, then why not use iTunes as a bridge for loading the correct driver to the iPod as well?

After all, if your iPod recognizes the family's digital camera's after syncing, wouldn't that be enough?

However convenient it might seem, I don't necessarily want the iPod to recognize every conceivable camera, just MINE...

And that would be such a beautiful set-up, giving you such autonomy, and making your mac so much more a digital hub...

Have pictures for display when on holiday, but also load pictures from camera, freeing the flash card, sync with iPhoto, optionally deleting the pictures on the iPod afterwards, maybe put back on iPod but for display, ... hours of fun, it would justify buying such an expensive toy, it really would.

xxx

Close Name:Mace Posts: 9015 Joined: 07 Aug 2003
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Having the capturing from camera to iPod feature could lead to wanting a bigger capacity iPod photo.

Currently, I resist taking too many pictures, afraid that the memory is full when a good picture presents itself. With that feature, I might shoot like a cowboy, resulting in a huge reservoir of pictures in the iPod. 60GBytes would be too low for me.

Close Name:jacrav Posts: 268 Joined: 04 Jul 2001
Subject: One little thing …

The iPod is set up as a repository for your files: you downlaosd tunes and pictures from the computer onto the iPod. You DON'T upload from the iPod to the computer …
In this case, how can the iPod serve as a temporary storage device between your CF/SD card and the computer ? Once you've taken the pictures out of the card, they're gone (if you so choose, in order to make room on the card and reuse it) and the iPod isn't supposed to be a 2-way device, so how do you print your pics ? or move them to your iPhoto library ?
Of course, if you download them as data, you will be able to move them to the computer, but in this case, you won't be able to show them to your family and friends (or visualize them yourself) until you've sync'ed your iPod and Mac, moved the pictures to iPhoto, an then loaded them into your iPod photo library …

Close Name:Mace Posts: 9015 Joined: 07 Aug 2003
Subject: Re: One little thing …

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jacrav wrote:
... how can the iPod serve as a temporary storage device between your CF/SD card and the computer ? …
We are talking about wishing Apple implements a feature that allow picture captured by a camera go directly to the iPod instead of to the CF/SD card in the camera. So, there is no need for an intermediate like Belkin card reader. It is implicit in the wish that Apple will implement, amongst other functionalities, the ability to upload pictures to Mac for a smooth experience.

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Subject: It´s called USB to go and it exists on a lot of players
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Subject: What I would like is…
Close Name:edtekker Posts: 56 Joined: 13 Dec 2002
Subject: It doesn't make sense, that's why

I'm surprised how often this suggestion keeps coming up, because it just doesn't make any sense. If your need is to be able to offload pictures in the field, then buy one or two new flash cards. With 1 gigabyte SD or CF cards often available under $60, I can just swap cards and take thousands of pictures for a lot less cost and hassle than plugging in my iPod. A bigger problem would be carrying enough batteries to shoot a couple of gigabytes of pictures. There would be an undeniable "cool" factor to be able to upload directly to the iPod, but the practical reality is that it would be a overly-complicated solution for a very simple problem. An expensive, overly-complicated solution at that.

Apple was right in not designing this function into the photo iPod, and I don't expect to see them wasting much money making the modifications to do it in the future.

Close Name:zpok Posts: 80 Joined: 06 May 2004
Subject: Re: It doesn't make sense, that's why

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edtekker wrote:
If your need is to be able to offload pictures in the field, then buy one or two new flash cards. ... A bigger problem would be carrying enough batteries to shoot a couple of gigabytes of pictures.


I carry my camera on my belt, and I'd carry an iPod in my pocket. What I don't carry around is cables, flash-cards and batteries. I just don't. I'm sure there's people who love to have those bags, clothing and I don't know what just to carry around lots of junk. I'm the kind of guy who loses everything smaller than a credit card.
So I've bought a camera with hours of continuous shooting just on one battery. In practice that keeps me happy for a MONTH.
And I bought the biggest bastard of a memory stick I could find. In practice that only keeps me happy for a few days. That's the downside of a 5mpx camera.
Now, an iPod photo that would let me dump the memory stick on it would solve a real problem, and make all our friends and relatives happy, one that does not is just overpriced. IMVHO...

Close Name:edtekker Posts: 56 Joined: 13 Dec 2002
Subject: Difference in style

I'm certain there are individuals that could make use of a photo iPod as an external storage device with their digital camera. I just don't think there are enough of them to make it worth the R&D expenditure for Apple to engineer it. For most people, in-camera storage will be cheaper and easier to use. Sony just announced a new 4 gigabyte compact-flash micro drive, with a list price of $299. By the time Apple could adapt the iPod, those will be half the price. Besides, cameras and iPods get lost or stolen - I'm paranoid about getting my pictures downloaded to the computer as soon as possible and backed up on DVD. I would never carry around a month's worth of pictures on my belt and/or in my pocket without copies on the home computer. Heck, I get nervous with just a few dozen shots in my camera.

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