I can't tell exactly who you're spoofing, be it blacks or white southern baptists, but either way, damn, that's offensive.

I'm thankful that I don't live in a country that promotes hate and stereotypes as much as yours most obviously does.

Guests, you are welcome to your opinions, but I think Vern's piece is entertaining and fun.

Then again, I have no room for political correctness in my life, especially when you can't even decide who is supposedly being wronged.

Bryan
Editor
TMO

Where's the racism ?

Vern's artice is very clever. (welll I think so)

Merry Xmas to all. (who use Macs)

Pete...

Actually, I was targeting Black Southern Baptist ministers who use Macs to write their sermons.

It's a very small group, and I figured if there's anyone who can take a joke, it must be them.

I had originally targeted mulatto Methodists who live in the Mid-Atlantic states, and Jehova's Witnesses of any racial decent who live in Fiji, but I figured those folk already have it tough, who am I to poke fun at them?

Jeez, get a grip!

Vern Seward

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furbies wrote:
Where's the racism ?

Vern's artice is very clever. (welll I think so)

Merry Xmas to all. (who use Macs)

Pete...

Thanks for the reason, Pete.

Bryan
Editor
TMO

Praaaaaaaaa-ise tha Mac!

As the great contraction has it, FTITCTAJ!

Adapting local language as a literary device.

Great article!

...like takin' a trip in th' Way Back Machine ta when i wuz a kid spendin' loooong hours in a African-American baptist church in TN.

hey, the article didn't offend me. i "got it". as did pourhadi.

you, a'right wit me, Vern. go on wit 'cha BAAAAAAD self!

Thanks but no thanks; I am a Moslem so wishing me a Merry Christmas is like me wishing you Happy Ramadan.

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Thanks but no thanks; I am a Moslem so wishing me a Merry Christmas is like me wishing you Happy Ramadan.

So, Why wouldn't you wish him a Happy Ramadan? The holiday exists, whether he celebrates it or not. And isn't the idea of Ramadan that you would be wishing, that is the time of reflection and family commuion?

And if he wished you a Merry Christmas, though you may not celebrate the holiday, wouldn't you still understand the concept of Christmas as not only the celebration of the birth of Jesus, but also of a time when family and friends get together and enjoy each other?

Seems to me that wishing each other a happy whatever does no harm, and promotes good will.

Just a Thought.

Vern

Vern,
What a great piece of literacy. We should all lighten up and have a little fun in life. Wish I could write with half the cleverness you did in this piece. I didn't take this to be a put down to anyone in particular. It really put a smile on my face and I had to read it a couple of times out of pure joy. Keep up the good work and thanks for giving me a good start to the Thanksgiving holiday.
We Mac users really do have lots to be thankful for, in more ways than one.

Apparently some of our guests haven't watched a holy roller channel. The basic reason it's funny is that it's true. It took me a couple of seconds to get into it, but once you get the rhythm down, it flowed perfectly, and it reads just like a TV preacher would sound. Calling this article a racist stereotype is invalid when the evidence is no farther away than television.

And for our guest who doesn't live in the U.S.: You've missed a treat. I don't agree with much these guys say, but they're entertaining, to say the least.

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Wollie wrote:
Vern,
What a great piece of literacy. We should all lighten up and have a little fun in life. Wish I could write with half the cleverness you did in this piece. I didn't take this to be a put down to anyone in particular. It really put a smile on my face and I had to read it a couple of times out of pure joy. Keep up the good work and thanks for giving me a good start to the Thanksgiving holiday.
We Mac users really do have lots to be thankful for, in more ways than one.

Well, I wouldn't say it's literature, but I appreciate the thought.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Vern Seward

No Black Southern Baptist Ministers were harmed during the writing of my article.

Can I git an AAAAaaaaaaa-Men?



Vern Seward

Very amusing. Quite jocular.

Chris

It's "mulatto".

Happy Christmahanukawnzica.

And AAAAaaaaaaa-Men!

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It's "mulatto".

Happy Christmahanukawnzica.

A man can't make a simple mispell without them damned Spelling Nazis pointing it out! What's the world comin' to?

Thaks!



Vern

Heck, I don't believe in anything. Well not in anything divine. What are you going to wish me? I think I'd like to be wished everything happy possible and, of course, also receive loads of presents on all those occasions. And if there are no religious happies to wish me, then why not wish me a Happy Unbirthday (unless it happens to be my birthday of course, when you can wish me a Happy Birthday instead).

You don't have to have a religious conviction to appreciate a good wish, no matter what the background of the wish. Would you be offended if a Jewish friend wished you a Happy Hanukah? Would you deck a Black friend for wishing you a Happy Kwanza? Would you sneer at your Chinese friend who bade you a Happy Chinese New Year?

I would hope not, because all your friend were trying to do is offer a a bit of goodness, doesn't matter whether you share thier beliefs or not.

So, if any of you out there what to wish me anything positive, regardless of religious orientation, go for it. I'll take it and be glad, and offer my wish for a happy life in return.

Of course, if you want to wish me a million bucks, I'll take that too.

Just my opinion

Vern Seward

Rant mode fully engaged, be warned!

I've been thinking about American notions of racism quite a lot lately... I have the impression across the great divide everybody wants to be treated with respect to his religion, background, culture and/or colour (oh and choice of president lately).

Which imo is very typically ass-backwards, like war for peace, polluting for clean air, Britney for chastity... I thought the whole idea was to try and
1) treat everybody the same, and
2) be extremely tolerant, since everybody has different ways of treating everybody the same...
in order to enjoy the huge variety and sameness we find in each other?

What's all this "don't laugh cause [I am/someone else is] [black/white/latino/jewish/polish/christian/muslim/french/whatever] "touchyfeelyness?

Really, I don't know if you realize it, but seen from the outside you all are very American and can be recognized as such from miles and miles away. Whether for good or for bad, despite the many differences you might find, despite the need to be "somethingpoliticallycorrect-American" instead of just American, for "us" you're "all the same".

Isn't it refreshing to be the subject of unjust generalization, no matter who you are? Doesn't that unite you?

Rant off

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Heck, I don't believe in anything. Well not in anything divine. What are you going to wish me? I think I'd like to be wished everything happy possible and, of course, also receive loads of presents on all those occasions. And if there are no religious happies to wish me, then why not wish me a Happy Unbirthday (unless it happens to be my birthday of course, when you can wish me a Happy Birthday instead).

Well, all I can say to that is, "Penblwydd Hapus", David. I've got one chance in 365 of being right.

Oh, BTW, shame about the rygbi last week - your boys played well.

As for zpok's comments, Aaaa-men, brother. Or sister. Why can't everyone just get on together? Being overly racist, or overly careful of offence, is itself most offensive. Basil Fotherington-Thomas, he say, "Hello sky, hello flowers, hello sun…", and even though he's a wet and a weed, I think he's right.

(If the previous sentence seems rather oblique, just ignore it.)

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davidneale wrote:
Heck, I don't believe in anything. Well not in anything divine. What are you going to wish me? I think I'd like to be wished everything happy possible and, of course, also receive loads of presents on all those occasions. And if there are no religious happies to wish me, then why not wish me a Happy Unbirthday (unless it happens to be my birthday of course, when you can wish me a Happy Birthday instead).

Well, all I can say to that is, "Penblwydd Hapus", David. I've got one chance in 365 of being right.

Oh, BTW, shame about the rygbi last week - your boys played well.

Diolch yn fawr i chi! I'll keep it until next year. Yeah, rygbi, now that is something I DO believe in! Completely off topic, but the Welsh boys haven't done too badly in their last few games, have they -- even giving your lot a run for their money and a fright. Roll on England (I can but hope!)