Apple are missing out on the business market here. Blackberry is <I>the</I> business PDA/phone and their gear syncs fine with PCs using Bluetooth.

Should really check out Blackberry Cool, it's probably the best Blackberry resource specific website out there. They just did a few reviews on BlueTooth headsets.

http://www.blackberrycool.com

DUH - the reason you can't syn the blackberry via bluetooth on the Mac is because the 7100 only uses bluetooth for speech, not data.
Not even PC users can sync via Bluetooth! The Blackberry doesn't support it.

Get your facts right... geez

I've had my 7100t for about 4 months and love the unit and PocketMac. T-Mobile on the other hand sucks. Coverage is spotty and the network is slooowww. If only Verizon wireless supported this unit.

Looking forward to Mac Bluetooth though.

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DUH - the reason you can't syn the blackberry via bluetooth on the Mac is because the 7100 only uses bluetooth for speech, not data.
Not even PC users can sync via Bluetooth! The Blackberry doesn't support it.

Get your facts right... geez

I think I said that, though I wasn't specific as to why you could not sync.

Lemme check.... Yeah, I said, "But that Mac syncing problem annoyed me to no end. So, I made a call to PocketMac and talked Tim Goggin, Vice President of Sale and Marketing at PocketMac. I asked Tim about the syncing a Blackberry 7100t to the Mac and he confirmed that PocketMac currently requires a USB to do the syncing."

And Elizabeth and Tim Goggin mentioned that the 7100 was "not set up for data on Bluetooth". I decided the why wasn't as important as the knowledge that syncing would soon be available, according to PocketMac.

Gee, I wonder how they will do that? Maybe Bluetooth for speech is really digitized before transmission, which means that the speech you hear actually gets turned into a data somewhere along the way. And maybe PocketMac has figure out a way to make transmission of data through the speech portion of Bluetooth possible. I guess that must be hard trying to figure out a way to encrypt then decrypt data to go through a data parameter or medium it wasn't originally designed for. Yeah, that's a toughy; kinda like transmitting data over a phoneline was tough.

Now, I didn't ask Tim Goggin how PocketMac was going to accomplish their task of Bluetooth syncing; they could have convinced Blackberry to allow a Bluetooth data flow. I don't know, and, if it works, I don't care. Would you care if PocketMac encrypted sync data to be transmitted over voice enabled Bluetooth?

So, could you tell me which fact I didn't get right? I'll be more thab happy to change it.

Vern Seward

hmm, this reply seems confusing re BT for blackberry cuz it seems to confuse the issue of the host-pc profile (data vs voice) with the headset-host profile.

i am unclear as to why you think pocketmac is doing anything to audio in the first place, correct?!

pls clarify

What the ^%$# do you guys do at work all day if you can't have camera phones? Do they still allow crayons, or are they considered too sharp to be safe?

Ok, for two years I have been emailing with RIM, Apple, and recently PocketMac.

Blackberries are cool. Macs are cool. They just don't work together. But in this case, it wasn't Apple's doing. The people at RIM weren't interested in working with Macs in fact. They told me so in an email. That was 2 years ago. The guy who wrote me back said they wouldn't stop 3rd party developers from getting into the act, but that they themselves had no interest.

Flash forward. PocketMac has not only gotten the two devices working together, albeit with USB, but they have even come up with an iSync interface as well as an Entourage conduit. Now, that's ingenious. And word from them is they are adding a conduit for Domino/Notes very soon. All good news!

Now back to the Bluetooth question. I have decided it's really not worth it. You see, Bluetooth is an incomplete design. There is no real security. A student here hacked into a bluetooth enabled cell phone (as in ANY Bluetooth enabled cell phone) and was able to completely delete a person's phonebook in under 10 minutes without her knowing.

Security is an issue that should be utmost in people's minds. He could have just as easily posted it on the Internet a la Paris Hilton's recent fiasco.

So, let the buyer beware.

At this moment, I'm happily using my Motorola v710 phone as a radio modem, using Bluetooth between my Mac and the phone, and Verizon's high-speed (almost DSL speed) network. I also have the Bluetooth headset, which is neat. But it burns me to no end that I can't sync with this phone using Bluetooth, especially since it is supported by iSync. I had to spring for a USB cable to sync. Why this particular part of the Bluetooth stack was crippled is beyond me.

I had read that the PocketMac software will enable syncing a Blackberry with your Apple Mail and Entourage email clients.

I too am confused as to what they will be doing regards to Bluetooth and Blackberry.

I am personally very satisfied with my Blackberry 7230 and the PocketMac software. I really dont have a need to sync the emails -- and would rather not sync the emails for insurance sake.

So Vern, is your company hiring cell phone inspectors? I think that would be a cool job. "Cell phone, please. I'm sorry Mr. Seward, but company policy is no built-in cameras on cell phones. I can either confiscate it, or you'll have to leave it in your car."

I have my 7100g attached to my company BES 4.1 - so that takes care of the mail and calendar syncing (I am using entourage on my Mac). I use PocketMac to sync my addressbook, todos, notes, etc.

Other issues with Blackberry + Mac solution:

1) In order to get setup on BES, you have to do the inital setup on a windows PC
2) Vitual PC 7 will NOT run the blackberry desktop (VPC 7 only supports USB 1.1 - blackberry is only USB 2)
3) There is NO solution for installing blackberry apps from a MAC

While I love the blackberry and Macs, in my opinion there is still a long, long way to go. Unless PocketMac comes out with a wholesale replacement for the blackberry desktop (doubtful) users will still need access to a PC to get the full functionality out of a blackberry.

-Neil

Handango has a free program, that once on your blackberry allows third part install with out a computer, so after you use a pc to do the initial install you can use your blackberry to download and install, soooo if you have a mac you can still install third party. Link is below

http://www.handango.com/blackberry/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=1181&jid=128DED7A4664C62C21112X2X8F96DBX5&platformId=5&productType=2&productId=149719&sectionId=0&catalog=40&topSectionId=-1

It is November and still no update. I am happy that POCKETMAC was made but a little disapointed with the way it works.

You can always just post the app (jad, jar, etc.) on a webserver and download the app directly to the phone via the browser over the wireless carrier connection.

its how i installed the sync4j client.

powerusers note: sync4j is not easy to work with, but the potential is huge.

Drew Lippolt
CTO, Movero Technology

A year later and we're still waiting for PocketMac to come through. When they said first half of the year,they didn't say which one.

I wonder if the reason PocketMac can't sync a Blackberry over bluetooth is the same reason that Salling Clicker won't work with a Blackberry? Something about the implementation of data transfer (or lack thereof) by RIM (seems they did audio only, or something like that).

RIM has disabled bluetooth data transfer because of security issues that someone mentioned before. Since Blackberry's are such business oriented tools, they didn't want to risk any type of easy jacking of a persons information from their device. its all explained on their website i believe. Same reason why their Enterprise application is so popular (although i havent used it) because blackberry takes data security pretty seriously.

Can anyone tell me how i might go about transferring photos onto my 7100g from a Mac?

i just got a BB 7100i and i use it through nextel. I have a 14" ibook and i got the free BB sync freeware. at first it worked but now for some reason it offsets all my appointments by 3 hours. I sync it to ical i i was just wondering why
If i can't get back to this page my AIM is dralite18

thank you

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i just got a BB 7100i and i use it through nextel. I have a 14" ibook and i got the free BB sync freeware. at first it worked but now for some reason it offsets all my appointments by 3 hours. I sync it to ical i i was just wondering why
If i can't get back to this page my AIM is dralite18

thank you

What time zone are you in relative to UTC (Zulu time)?

The first half of the year has come and gone, still no solution. I am waiting to buy a Blackberry until this issue is resolved. Call me crazy, but this is a dealbreaker. Data should move wirelessly. I should be able to use my phone as a modem, and move contacts and calendars around without a tether.

I mean come on, what is this, the bronze age?

I found these Pocketmac pro that syncs with bluetoth, should these work with my BlackBerry 8700?

http://www.pocketmac.net/products/devices/pro_features/2.html

Hello All,

I have the bb 7100 t, after installing the most recent bb desktop which updated the operating software, we now have wireless bypass and desktop sync profiles, will this help?

Did you ever resolve this issue? I'm having the same issue with my Blackberry 8700 syncing to my Macbook Pro using Pocketmac.

It's here - Blackberry Modem for Macintosh! I heard from Curtis the other day this isn't the only app their about to do. Courtney ... way to go - keep up the good work!

www.imobimac.com

So mac / blackberry bluetooth sync from Pocketmac is officially 2 years late and counting.

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