A Low-Cost Graphic Card Solution For Old Macs
A Low-Cost Graphic Card Solution For Old Macs
by , 9:00 AM EDT, May 13th, 2004
Earlier this year, I wrote an article for TMO entitled, "Low-Cost Graphic Card Solutions For Macs." In it, I mentioned my "quest" to find a replacement graphic card for my G4 Sawtooth model. This is a great little machine and I hope to get 2 or 3 more years of use from it, especially if 1 GHz CPU upgrade cards continue to lower in price. In addition, Serial ATA cards are now dropping below US$99, so until Apple releases their 3rd generation G5 line-up, and really makes it worth upgrading, I'll be a Sawtooth user for some time.
As mentioned in my earlier article, graphic card options for this machine can be counted on -- well, on one finger. I've been thinking about this situation for some time now. That is, why does the 3rd party market for graphic cards (not to mention ATA, SATA cards) make it so painful to be a Mac user? I've come to the conclusion that there is a conspiracy going on that would make even Oliver Stone stand up and take notice. My gut feeling says that it isn't due to a small market share that the Mac has; in fact, many Taiwanese and other Asian companies would be happy to get even a small piece of the Mac market. I think more than likely -- and in a very back room smoky kind of way -- that Apple doesn't want ATI or NVIDIA to support licensees that might have made a Mac SKU of their PC product.
Before you think me crazy, think about it. It all makes sense. Apple wants you to buy a new machine. It is after all a hardware and PODware company, we've been told. Allowing Mac users to upgrade their Macs like their PC counterparts only delays their purchase of Apple's latest and greatest (and often buggy, noisy, overpriced) model that Mr. Jobs introduced at <fill in the Expo that no longer takes place in Japan.>
So, in other words, it is in the interest of Apple NOT to have ATI and NVIDIA pursue OEM chip sales to potential graphic card manufacturers. What do both companies get in return? They get to carve up the Apple line between them. Some of you may point out, "Hey, ATI does sell after-market cards on par with the PC models." Sure, at 4x the price and without any software. It might be that ATI Mac cards cost more because they need to hire lawyers to visit Mac forums to shut down message threads on flashing cards. (Because we all know that supporting Mac users is 100x less costly that PC users with all their odd-ball configurations and OSes.)
OK, now that the rant is out of the way, lets proceed to how you can take back charge of your Mac-life. This wonderful page, http://www.cybercoment.com/macgeforce.htm, and let me say, it is in RED because what they print is NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART. Looking on this page, you will find reports on various cards that work and might, and maybe might on a full moon or when the planets align. Seems pretty hit and miss? It is.
The ATI 8500 seems like the best bet, but with all those eBayers marking up this 90's card, you might as well move on. The GeForce2, which in some cases works without any flashing is a nifty card, though don't expect to bring your machine to any LAN parties, unless you are playing some network card game. It also lacks something I very much want -- a DVI port. Sadly, the GeForce 4, which many companies still sell, are not listed on this page as working. With the GeForce FX5200 on the Mac and PC, you would think some hacker (not cracker) would have come to our aid by now. So that leaves the GeForce3. But finding a "plain Jane" GeForce3, without the TI or any other lettering after the "3" is getting harder and harder. Keep in mind that this card will be much better than that Rage 128 you have, but again, don't expect eye-candy to make your friends jealous.
So, I have been hunting for a GeForce3, with DVI and 64MB (yeah, everything is 128MB but you want to stick to 64MB models for flashing) that is NEW and in a box.
Enter XFX, a division of Pine, a company that has been making PC cards for some time. The model I purchased is called: PINE GEFORCE3 64MB DDR AGP4X TV/DVI OUT PVT20AMA. Following the directions on the page, the "RED PAGE", I was able to flash the card, and now am enjoying my Sawtooth once again. I won't go into the details of the flashing process, because if you need someone to hold your hand, then you shouldn't be doing it!
I will say this, however; before you do any flashing, back up the original PC BIOS so if anything goes wrong, you can revert the machine back to its normal state, and find a PC user to sell it to.
In a perfect world, Pine would notice that a huge number of visitors to that product page are using Safari, put two and two together and make the product right out of factory come with a happy Mac logo.
The card's link has a handy "BUY-IT" button, and it costs $109. For that much, I could get a nice modern graphic card over on the PC side. For a Mac user (especially us suffering with no Quartz Extreme/Rage 128 users), however, I think it might be music to many of your ears.
Bottom line, until ATI decides to ship a card for LESS than $120, that doesn't require a Mac that was just released last week to run it, we have no choice but to try these "flash-tricks." At the end of the day, ATI and NVIDIA make their bulk sales directly from Apple and should just shift over after-market cards to their OEM partners who can get us the price points we want.
Some people who commented on my previous article mentioned "piracy." I wouldn't condone software piracy, but I think this is a gray area, (i.e. Flashing.) Did I take a sale away from NVIDIA? No, because they won't/can't sell me a card for my machine. If anything, by buying a card made from their chip, and thus putting revenue into Pine's pocket, it will insure more sales to said company from NVIDIA's OEM business. Did I take it away from ATI? No, because once again, their 9800 card is useless for my needs. If anything, I took a sale away from Apple by refusing to cave into the need to buy a Mac each year. I'd much rather use the money saved towards buying some great Mac software, or an iPod, etc.
Well, I hope I helped some of you, and not offended too many of you. Next time, I'll write about how Mac Serial/ATA PCI cards, combo cards (i.e. USB 2.0, Firewire800, etc.) get changed from hand to hand by a pyramid of companies before they reach your friendly Mac retail shelf. (Can you say, "We don't need no stink'n middle-men!")
Observer Comments
Thu May 13, 2004 9:19 am Subject: Apple's latest buggy, noisy, & overpriced model from Job
Well, I went with the ASUS GeForce MX2 for $40 (this was an experiment, so at least I wouldn't be out a lot of money). While it only does VGA, that's all my current CRT Studio Display supports. I actually flashed it on my Mac (I may get my old P3 box back from my parents, just for situations like this!) using instructions from Apple's discussion boards on which ROM to use (twin view 1077 in my case). All I know is that my Sawtooth has Quartz Extreme active for a fraction of the price for a new card that is Mac ready. Actually, with the exception of video cards, I have found that most PCI cards for the Mac aren't all that out of line with their PC counterparts.
I have to admit I don't get Apple's lack of attention in this area. With the new graphics capabilities that Intel is going to start building into their chipsets, the gaming gap between Macs and PCs could get even worse. With the main processor performance problem essentially fixed, Apple should be aggressively dealing with video performance to get more attention from serious gamers and their publishers. This is a big market, and one that upgrades on a regular basis.
I have a quicksilver mac 867 megaherz and a geforce 2mx... its really starting to show its age... but I won't have money to buy a new mac for probably about two years.... (poor college student). So I have been looking for ways to keep my mac from aging as quickly you might say.... I have used various optimization programs to eek out any bit of lost speed in various ways... but what I really felt like I need to do is buy a new video card. I looked all over the place for a video card that was in my price range and would be a big improvement over the geforce 2mx. I looked and I looked.... but much to my dismay there is a completely double standard for mac and pc videocard pricing.... I may buy a pine card it is best option yet..
Has anyone figured out what the BTO PCI video card in the new xServe G5s is all about? On the Apple site it says it has 64MB of DDR. Is this a beefed up 7000 PCI or the long rumors 9200 PCI that ATI was showing off at MWSF 2004? Also, is this card an exception to the Quartz Extreme rule in OS X? I've noticed Apple won't sell the card other than BTO with an xServe.
I think ATI is claiming it's piracy because they have dedicated Mac Software Engineers who build the drivers, and probably other people doing custom hardware design. When you flash the drivers from a non-Mac card, those people who work on the Mac product are not rewarded.
However, I do agree that the Mac video card situation is a joke. People flash cards because they don't have a bajillion dollars to spend on a Mac card. Even ATI's low-end Radeon 7000 PCI Mac card is $120, and the same card for PC is $40.
I've flashed a PowerColor Radeon 7000 128MB DDR and am using it in my B&W.
I'd like to flash a PCI 9100 or 9200 Radeon, but have not found any ROMs. Flashing an nVidea fx5200 PCI is not an option either, agian I haven't found ROMs.
I'd pay $100 USD for a better card than a 7000 128MB DDR, but not a dime more. I'll keep flashing, anything over $100 for a PCI card is a rip off.
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