"It doesn't suck!" is registered by BareBones for the famous BBEdit text editor application. So it is definitely impossible that Vista doesn't suck. Sorry.

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The Albatross was a ship's good luck charm until some idiot killed it. So unless Vista is dead, you might want to think of a different analogy.

Guest #2: I suggest you read a bit of Coleridge - to have "an albatross around the neck" as metaphor is not the loss of a good luck charm but the acquiring of a burden or an obstacle. There's nothing like a bit of the classics. In fact sailors often killed and ate albatrosses, but thought of them as the souls of dead sailors.

I believe that Vista will prove to be as much of an albatross around our collective neck as XP is.

And as for Guest #1 - your argument is odd, and wrong. It is indeed possible that Vista doesn't suck. But good enough isn't good enough.

Vista in an Eastern European translation means - chicken or turkey...
So we definately know that VISTA is not an albatross... In addition, V.I.S.T.A. means Viruses Infections Spyware Trojans & Adware...

My question is why isn't there a big shareholder revolt - M$ is loosing money and a call for sacking the leadership... maybe it is M$ who has all of the Kool-Aid drinkers.

Where do you get all this insight? "The problem is that average isn't cutting it in an industry that thrives on innovation, novel features, and a quick upgrade cycle"?

Why are so many mac users in denial or plain obtuse?

Windows achieved 95+% dominance just by being "good enough". As for the quick upgrade cycle... Go ask big organizations how often they want to upgrade their installed base of OS.

You can bash Windows OS's all you want. The reality is that they are the OS's of the past, present, and future for the OVERWHELMING majority of computer users.

I much prefer OS X myself but this doesn't obstruct me from seeing reality as it is.

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The Albatross was a ship's good luck charm until some idiot killed it. So unless Vista is dead, you might want to think of a different analogy.

After 5 years, and a lot of money, MicroSoft should have produced an OSX killer instead of killing their own good luck charm.

However, perhaps Guest #4 is correct, maybe "good enough" is good enough for most of the personal computer users. I buy $14 jeans at Costco instead of $50 Levis because they are good enough for me, but if I needed more durable denim then maybe I would opt for the heavier 501 Levis.

Back in my navy days I remember leaving port and an albatross would start crisscrossing our wake looking for food. It hardly ever flapped its wings it just soared on what ever air currents lifted it. Every morning the first thing I did when coming up on deck was to look for the albatross. Reliably it would be there and then I felt that everything was alright. Quite often we would not stop at Pearl Harbor, or other ports, all the way across the Pacific and I don't think that the bird ever rested. it was always on our wake.

You need to read ALL of the Rime of the Anicent Mariner before correcting somebody's use of the metaphor. The albatross is a huge bird with a large wing span. The albatross chained 'round his neck was the sailor's CURSE.

[quote="Sir Harry Flashman"]

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However, perhaps Guest #4 is correct, maybe "good enough" is good enough for most of the personal computer users. I buy $14 jeans at Costco instead of $50 Levis because they are good enough for me, but if I needed more durable denim then maybe I would opt for the heavier 501 Levis.

Too true... when I first started working in a Windows world and complained about "good enough" related Windows issues and how they didn't exist on the Mac my fellow PC users just shrugged and advised me to "live with it".
My thoughts since then are that PC users tend to have low expectations of their operating system and are willing to live with its shortcomings while Mac users have higher expectations.

After reading William Bligh's Mutiny onboard HMS Bounty and Capt. Cook's journals an interesting fact came to light. Albatrosses taste fishy when cooked, for obvious reasons. However, when force fed grains for a couple of weeks, the bird would taste like the best french goose according to Sir Joseph Banks.

"Ah ! well a-day ! what evil looks
Had I from old and young !
Instead of the cross, the Albatross
About my neck was hung."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Taylor_Coleridge

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"As idle as a painted ship
Upon a painted ocean."

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Windows achieved 95+% dominance just by being "good enough". As for the quick upgrade cycle... Go ask big organizations how often they want to upgrade their installed base of OS.

You can bash Windows OS's all you want. The reality is that they are the OS's of the past, present, and future for the OVERWHELMING majority of computer users.

Past? Yes. Present? Yes. Future -- well, I wouldn't be so sure. Windows was "good enough" in the past, but there are plenty of indications that the wind has changed.

If the author of this news would know anything about this industry, he would know "doesn't suck" in a Microsoft product, nowadays, with all the media bias towards that company, translates to "great product" in reality.
Regarding the sad Mac users, no, Vista doesn't suck, because:

1) with less than 3 months of "life" it runs more than double the software OS X runs;

2) with less than 3 months of "life" it runs 99% more games than Mac OS X;

3) than means we Vista users don't have to reboot our computers every 15 minutes every time we want/need/have to play a game or run Windows-specific software (more than half of today's available).

Oh, and in 1 year it will have more than double the market share OS X has today, and in 5 years the more than 85% XP has today.

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If the author of this news would know anything about this industry, he would know "doesn't suck" in a Microsoft product, nowadays, with all the media bias towards that company, translates to "great product" in reality.
Regarding the sad Mac users, no, Vista doesn't suck, because:

1) with less than 3 months of "life" it runs more than double the software OS X runs;

2) with less than 3 months of "life" it runs 99% more games than Mac OS X;

3) than means we Vista users don't have to reboot our computers every 15 minutes every time we want/need/have to play a game or run Windows-specific software (more than half of today's available).

Oh, and in 1 year it will have more than double the market share OS X has today, and in 5 years the more than 85% XP has today.

Wow! What wonderful statistics! Got anything to back them up, or are you just pulling them out of you a$$?

Thought so.

Coleridge quote from "The Rime ...."

"And I [Microsoft] had done a hellish thing [released Vista], and it [Vista] would work 'em woe [Windows customer base] -

Part,The Second (third paragraph)