Apple Open to Customers Wanting MobileMe Services in iCloud

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Apple is reportedly open to the idea of adding in some key MobileMe services to iCloud, MobileMe’s successor. An AppleInsider reader claims that an e-mail to newly ordained Apple CEO Tim Cook complaining about the loss of some MobileMe features that are currently scheduled to be axed was answered by Mr. Cook’s staff, who told him the company was open to keeping those features if enough customers wanted them.

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“Specifically, I bemoaned the loss of sync services (syncing application preferences, keychain, etc.) and the loss of iDisk,” the reader told AppleInsider of his initial email to Cook . “I was pleasantly surprised to get a call from his office just now.”

The anonymous reader said that he was told, “Apple is open to [adding those features to iCloud] if there’s enough feedback on the subject.”

iCloud is the successor to MobileMe, but it’s also a cornerstone of Apple’s approach to how to keep your devices and data synced with one another. From Versions to Photostream to iTunes Match, iCloud offers features not found in the company’s MobileMe service.

At the same time, Apple has said that application preference syncing, keychain syncing, Dashboard widget syncing, Dock item syncing, iDisk, and iWeb publishing will all go the way of the dodo bird when MobileMe is officially shuttered in June of 2012.

It turns out, however, that if enough customers let Apple know that they want to keep some or all of those features, the company may change its mind.

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19 Comments Leave Your Own

MyRightEye

Keychain syncing is essential.

Lee Dronick

Keychain syncing is essential.

I agree. I keep a lot of stuff in Secure Notes.

I also like iDisk for the convenience. Now if we could access secure servers from the Finder and FTP stuff to it instead of just taking then I could forgo iDisk. However, not everyone has their own domain and a little bit of iDisk storage would be handy for the those Mac users. Just to clarify, what I would like to see is FTP built into the Finder.

Insaneneo

How can we contact Apple about this!!  I have sent FeedBack to them through the MobileMe site but is there a better way?

Lancashire-Witch

I thought iWeb would still be available for use after June 2012; we just won’t be able to publish sites to MobileMe.  Or have I got that wrong?

denevans

I want iCloud to include ALL present MobileMe services including photo gallery!

PorthosJon

Just to clarify, what I would like to see is FTP built into the Finder.

That is the last thing I would want.  FTP is nowhere near secure, unless you are using SFTP, and try getting a novice user to install a certificate… good luck!

Why not use CyberDuck?, it’s free and has drag and drop with the finder, and supports a whole lot more than just FTP.

Lee Dronick

That is the last thing I would want.? FTP is nowhere near secure, unless you are using SFTP, and try getting a novice user to install a certificate? good luck!

That is what I meant. It is just that you go shopping for an FTP program in the App Store. I have several secure FTP programs that I use when I am not using the one built into Dreamweaver.

Is not the iDisk access feature in the Finder secure FTP?

furbies

So does someone (else) what to find the best avenue for pestering apple into keeping all the best features of mobileMe?

I’m too lazy…..

Jos? Augusto Macedo do Couto

I want iCloud to include ALL present MobileMe services including photo gallery!
Me, too.
Jos? Couto
Porto
Portugal

roni

I also want iCloud to include all current MobileMe services.

geoduck

FWIW
Here’s a Facebook group asking for MM services to be continued

http://www.facebook.com/groups/214061691962305/

ozman

Here’s the MobileMe URL for telling Apple what you think about the issue:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/mobileme.html

CCardona

I also want iCloud to include all current MobileMe services.

Just like roni said, be my little ba…I mean, I am also a proud inclusionista!

PorthosJon

Is not the iDisk access feature in the Finder secure FTP?

Nope.  It is WebDav.

webjprgm

Keychain syncing is essential.

How does that compare to 1Password + DropBox? In my experience, 1Password is much nicer to use than Keychain, so I can’t say I’d miss Keychain syncing.  The only cases I can think of where I need keychain are 1) wifi password, 2) iChat / FaceTime password.  I guess that would be true of any app that needed a password that was not a web app.  But for me that is rare, and I keep the passwords in 1Password anyway so in the rare occasion that I set up a new computer I can get the password, copy it in once, and forget about it again.

Just to clarify, what I would like to see is FTP built into the Finder.

I might agree, but the Finder is so simplistic in its interface that I’m not sure I’d like this.  I’ve used FUSE with sshfs before, which mounts a remote ssh destination as a disk navigable in the Finder.  I had to turn off the smart preview icon thing (whatever that feature is called) because Finder would try to fetch all of the files that are visible in any Finder window over ssh to generate the preview icon. Super slow.

CyberDuck has worked quite well for me.  So Apple would have to beat CyberDuck’s experience.  I like
- CyberDuck works reasonably quickly
- CyberDuck remembers my open server and open directory. So I can quit CyberDuck when I’m done, but next time I need to transfer files I open it and I’m already back
- I can edit files from CyberDuck with TextWrangler (or other app), saving uploads the file.

I’m sure Apple could match the features. The “Connect to Server” (cmd-k) dialogue does have a favorites list, even though I never use it. The edit - upload feature is really just feature parity with the local file system, so Finder would already have that.  But the speed, that means Apple would have to spend significant effort to tune all the aspects of this. It wouldn’t be just hooking up a FUSE-like file system. They’d have to make sure the Finder didn’t try to generate all the previews. They’d have to make sure files were locally cached behind the scenes and uploaded when those cache files change. They’d have to handle securely storing the credentials for favorites.  Plenty to do there.

?I want iCloud to include ALL present MobileMe services including photo gallery!?

That’s a lot of features. I don’t think Apple will listen to “I want everything”.  I think you should specifically state which features you really use.  Apple knows DropBox, Facebook, Flicker, PhotoBucket, SmugMug, etc. all exist and cover some portion of MobileMe services.  They certainly won’t be shipping these features with iCloud 1.0.  If you want them included for the next iCloud, which may or may not come before June 2012 when MMe dies, you’ll need to focus efforts on getting Apple to add one or two of your most-needed features.  So is it the photo gallery you need most?  Why a MM one and not a Flicker one? iPhoto can share photos with Flicker and Facebook already.  Same questions about any other MMe feature.

It turns out, however, that if enough customers let Apple know that they want to keep some or all of those features, the company may change its mind.

They have in the past. Here’s hoping for your favorite MMe features!

Lee Dronick

I?m sure Apple could match the features. The ?Connect to Server? (cmd-k) dialogue does have a favorites list, even though I never use it

The last time I tried it I could only take a file, not put one up.

I have CyberDuck, and Transmit, but most of the time I am using Dreamweaver. Also the Finder to backup a few files on iDisk. If iDisk goes away, I can back up to folder on my website.

Question. Just how secure, or in secure as the case may be, is WebDAV used for iDisk?

BurmaYank

“Here?s the MobileMe URL for telling Apple what you think about the issue:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/mobileme.html

Here’s what I posted to at that Apple website:

Tim Cook reportedly told an Apple customer that the company was open to keeping those features if enough customers wanted them.

- So, please be informed that I want iCloud to include ALL present MobileMe services, and I wish Apple would allow me to continue paying for some of them.

-especially, please keep Keychain & application preferences syncing, which I find essential - I wish Apple would allow me to continue paying for it.

- I will also miss photo gallery (maybe $20/year’s worth)

- I also like iDisk convenience, but I could live without it if I had to.  (Please don’t make me!)

- I do wish I could have tried iWeb publishing.  Some respected users I follow on The Mac Observer say it’s going to be an irreplaceable loss to them

(Dashboard widget syncing, Dock item syncing?  MEH…)

PorthosJon

Question. Just how secure, or in secure as the case may be, is WebDAV used for iDisk?

Apple implements SSL in the own cloud products very badly in most cases.  WebDAV is secure for passwords, but all data transmission is in the clear.  The internal WebDAV client (Command-K) does support WebDAV over SSL, Apple just does not implement it with iDisk.

ptchristy

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-MobileMe-Features-in-iCloud/165371700211982?sk=wall

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