Apple Confirms Demise of iDisk, iWeb Publishing in iCloud

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Apple is finally answering more questions MobileMe users have been asking about the upcoming transition to iCloud thanks to an FAQ posted on the company’s Web site. The page lists the fates for all of MobileMe’s current services, including iDisk and iWeb publishing.

MobileMe to iCloud transition FAQ

The info page reaffirmed that MobileMe and .Mac email addresses will transition to iCloud, and that users will be able to continue using those addresses. Address Book contacts and iCal calendars will continue to sync, as will Safari bookmarks.

Apple also confirmed that Find My iPhone and Back to My Mac will continue on in iCloud. What won’t be making the transition to iCloud is iWeb publishing, Gallery, and iDisk.

Users that rely on System Preferences and Keychain syncing will be out of luck, too. Apple won’t support those syncing services in iCloud, nor will Dashboard widget and Dock item syncing.

Once iCloud launches this fall, current MobileMe customers will be able to continue using the services that are already available to them through June 30, 2012. Any data left in MobileMe features that are being deprecated will be lost if it hasn’t been backed up or moved to other online services.

iCloud is scheduled to launch this fall along side the release of iOS 5. It will also include wireless iOS device backups, document syncing, iTunes in the Cloud, and Photo Stream.

The iCloud service will be free for Lion and iOS 5 users.

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Lee Dronick

Hmmmmm, I guess I better start thinking about making the switch from iDisk to myDisk.

Hopefully some basic FTP features will built in to Lion. I will miss the convenience of clicking on iDisk and dragging file to it.

geoduck

I remember reading somewhere that iWeb.app won’t work at all under Lion. Means that I have to find another host and another App and retool my site BEFORE I get Lion. Even if I delay upgrading to iCloud I’ll be SOL

Lancashire-Witch

Very disappointing. Worse still is geoduck’s belief that iWeb won’t work under Lion.

I planned to continue using iWeb and find a suitable hosting service.

It now looks like a total re-think is called for - SOL doesn’t begin to describe it.

Lee Dronick

Very disappointing. Worse still is geoduck?s belief that iWeb won?t work under Lion.

I planned to continue using iWeb and find a suitable hosting service.

I plan on holding off on upgrading to Lion and see what else breaks. I would rather not upgrade my Creative Suite 4 until at least version 6 is available, if then.

There are a couple of iWeb like apps out there, some on the App Store. I don’t know how well they work. I am using DreamWeaver which has a learning curve, but the Missing Manual helped with that.

dhp

The good news is that those of us whose accounts were renewed just before the announcement of iCloud have not wasted as much money as we might have thought. It appears we can cancel MobileMe this fall (or any time) to receive a prorated refund.

JonGl

I remember reading somewhere that iWeb.app won?t work at all under Lion.

Well, Apple’s on docs seem to say that iWeb will work—they are telling how to move your MobileMe iWeb web site to other servers using iWeb. I suspect it will continue to work—just not with MobileMe.

-Jon

geoduck

Apple?s on docs seem to say that iWeb will wor

That would be very good. I would be happy to be proven wrong.

I’m looking at going to Sandvox or something like that but haven’t had a chance to figure out if it will be possible to import my existing site. If iWeb will work under Lion it would take some of the pressure off.

computerbandgeek

Am I the only person who bought MoMe for the main purpose of using Gallery, since there really just was no photo site that compared to it? I’ll be very sad to see that go.

Dean Lewis

Am I the only person who bought MoMe for the main purpose of using Gallery, since there really just was no photo site that compared to it? I?ll be very sad to see that go.

Well, I didn’t use it only for Gallery, but I will be sad to see that go. I liked the presentation it gave better than any of the more popular sites out there.

I think there is going to be some kind of viewing access or sharing of the “Photo Stream” which is the last 1000 photos you’ve taken, but if so, I certainly don’t know the details. I doubt it will be the same as being able to create separate galleries for events and putting passwords on those you only want certain people to use.

Re: iWeb

iWeb will post a site via FTP now to any server. However, certain special features which actually tied into server-side programs available only at MobileMe won’t work.

Keep an eye on http://www.squarespace.com/ . Leo Laporte of twit.tv fame has asked them to consider building an iWeb conversion tool to assist people moving iWeb sites from MobileMe. (They have conversion tools to move from Movable Type, WordPress and Blogger, so it could be possible?)  I don’t know how serious they may be considering it, but their publication system is really nice and I think they could actually do it. Their rates are decent; a bit higher than a MobileMe account, but a conversion tool and then the new publication tools one would have access to could be very well worth it.

kevinlane

Well, now it’s official.  I was still hoping Apple would have a future for iWeb.

My biggest worry is keeping my podcasts connected to iTunes.  When the day comes that I use iWeb to post to some other hosting service, will my podcast continue to appear in iTunes as it has from its beginning?  Or will I have to resubmit it, causing it to appear as a new podcast (and breaking the link between it and my subscribers?)

AND, if I have to leave iWeb completely (as some have suggested) and learn to use a new website design application, how hard is it going to be for me, a non-programmer, to set up the RSS feed and keep my podcast in iTunes?  In my view, that was the true beauty of iWeb in how it so easily handled podcast publishing.

Any reassuring ideas will be greatly appreciated!

rallygoddess

>The iCloud service will be free for Lion and iOS 5 users.

We have heard this repeatedly. I have a family-pak, and while I as the family geek will upgrade to Lion relatively quick…the rest will remain on Snow Leopard.

How much will they have to pay? This seems to be overlooked in all that I have read. I do appreciate Apple stepping forward and confirming the iWeb is not making the transition. I truly am saddened that iDisk and Gallery shant be making the jump.

Lee Dronick

AND, if I have to leave iWeb completely (as some have suggested) and learn to use a new website design application, how hard is it going to be for me, a non-programmer, to set up the RSS feed and keep my podcast in iTunes?? In my view, that was the true beauty of iWeb in how it so easily handled podcast publishing.

Any reassuring ideas will be greatly appreciated!

Your a music teacher so I am betting that you can do it, at least to the level that you describe. When I went from GoLive to Dreamweaver I made myself work mostly in the code pane and not the graphical one and I certainly am no programmer. It helps that Dreamweaver has hints, but like any new discipline it takes practice. There is a lot of help on the web and as I said a few comments above, the Missing Manual series of books are your friend.

JayBee

Kevinlane said:  “AND, if I have to leave iWeb completely (as some have suggested) and learn to use a new website design application…........”

I haven’t used iWeb but as a non-programmer, I found Freeway to be a good and easy package to design a company website. I think there is a Freeway Express version on the AppStore but I haven’t tried the express version myself.

Vicki

I second the motion of Freeway for creating a website.  I’ve used it for years (79 pages now), it is constantly improved.  There is a very helpful Freeway Talk forum for getting questions from peers.  Support questions are promptly answered.
http://softpress.com
no I don’t work for them grin

tammythemongoose

Well I must just be stupid here - but could someone post - what do I do to replace idisk - is it drop box? I just want a cloud place to post some docs I can retrieve at will. I don’t want them pushed to all my devices I just want them out there..

I don’t think Lion sounds really good either - nothing in it for me but I guess I’ll have to do that to get mail and safari bookmarks to sync.


I look forward to someone posting about the idisk replacement.

geoduck

I don?t think Lion sounds really good either - nothing in it for me

I thought the same,Lion was mostly eye-candy and little substance.
Then I came across this Apple Page that covers everything. Buried in there are some serious big time improvements that Apple skippedover in the Keynote.

Lee Dronick

Well I must just be stupid here - but could someone post - what do I do to replace idisk - is it drop box? I just want a cloud place to post some docs I can retrieve at will. I don?t want them pushed to all my devices I just want them out there..

There are a number of online backup services, or you could roll your own which is what I think I will do. See this PC Magazine review of backup services.

I see a business opportunity in the demise of iDisk. Not that I am going to leap on it, but I bet that other will. Watch for items in the App Store that are in effect FTP apps that give your 10 GB or so of storage. There are already a number of FTP apps in there and some mobile ones in the iTunes Store.

wab95

Well I must just be stupid here - but could someone post - what do I do to replace idisk - is it drop box? I just want a cloud place to post some docs I can retrieve at will. I don?t want them pushed to all my devices I just want them out there..


No, Tammy, you’re not stupid, not that you need me to tell you, or else you wouldn’t be online talking to fellow Mac users. This is what the Apple community does, share info/tips/experience for the betterment of everyone.

DropBox is a great option for storing your documents online and sharing them between your various devices and with colleagues. We (one of my research projects) are in process of launching a multi-continent, multi-site study between teams in literally every continent, and one of the ways we are getting large datasets out to the various teams is via DropBox. This way, our clinical standards coordinator in the UK, for example, can put nearly a gig of materials into DropBox, and our teams in Asia and Africa can pull them out and distribute them locally. We can put the modifications back into DropBox and bam, she’s got them and can start her modifications. DropBox works better than iDisk did, and Apple are tacitly conceding as much. I used both iDisk and DropBox in parallel and DropBox was faster, smoother and easier for my Windows using colleagues to get to.

A word about the future, never say never again. If a service is valued, and becomes important to Apple’s growth, expect it to come back in some form or fashion, even if it is something supportive built into the OS (like Twitter). We may see something similar for an iDisk replacement in future, including DropBox support, if it is used by a critical mass. Very few of my Apple-using colleagues used iDisk and none preferred it to DropBox. I suspect that this is why it is going away.

As for Lion, all transitions are stressful, even frightening, because they represent the unknown. But everyone’s in the same boat. Lion is replete with exciting changes that will alter how we interact with the venerable old computer as it transitions into something even more useful and in tune with the 21st Century.

Sir Harry’s link is a great one. If you want to read more about backup and storage strategies in general, a good read is Joe Kissell’s ‘Take Charge of Mac OS X Backups’ (available in the iBookstore and Amazon).

geoduck

We (one of my research projects) are in process of launching a multi-continent, multi-site study

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By any chance are you at Johns Hopkins?
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wab95

By any chance are you at Johns Hopkins?

Yes. Nice detective work.

geoduck

Yes. Nice detective work.

Small world.
My niece is there going for a Phd in Pathology.

wab95

My niece is there going for a Phd in Pathology.

Excellent! Good to see young people pursuing noble goals. JHU (not my med school alma mater - but no matter) is a great place for this.

Just curious, how did you make the leap from my comments to JHU?

geoduck

Just curious, how did you make the leap from my comments to JHU?

You mentioned a huge multi continent research project which got me curious. I checked your profile and it said Baltimore and Physician. An MD in private practice would not be likely to be involved in this kind of a project so a University affiliation was likely. JHU is the biggest one in that area.

wab95

You mentioned a huge multi continent research project which got me curious

Ahh…still, nice deductive reasoning, geoduck.

Glad to see that you’re warming up to Lion, or at least, less unimpressed. I think the combination of features, together with the background of iDevices, is going to make for an unprecedented user experience (not necessarily a smooth and universally adored one), and is an evolutionary step in how we interact with our computing devices.

Good luck to your niece, BTW.

FlipFriddle

I bet some of the utility of iDisk will be replaced with Apple’s AirDrop.

Still, I forget who it was here, one of the regulars, but they put it succinctly: iCloud seems to be about sharing with yourself, whereas MobileMe was about sharing with others. I hope iCloud is about sharing with others as well.

BTW, I third Freeway (I have Pro). I HATE Dreamweaver, but Freeway made it possible to publish sites for me. I find most web apps akin to doing desktop publishing by learning PostScript code; it’s stupid. So it was a breath of fresh air, and is designed for people used to designing print pages.

At least now, no one will care that MobileMe doesn’t support WordPress. smile

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