Grandstanding.  If these folks were really interested in making change, they’d be handing that petition over to companies that do not even attempt to improve worker conditions, instead of to a company that already does.

As for the first condition, see here:

http://www.apple.com/supplierresponsibility/code-of-conduct/labor-and-human-rights.html

Grandstanding.  If these folks were really interested in making change, they’d be handing that petition over to companies that do not even attempt to improve worker conditions, instead of to a company that already does.

Or give them to the Chinese Embassy and Consulates.

Grandstanding.  If these folks were really interested in making change, they’d be handing that petition over to companies that do not even attempt to improve worker conditions, instead of to a company that already does.

But wouldn’t that be pointless? If a company doesn’t care, they don’t care, and no petition is going to change it.

But wouldn’t that be pointless? If a company doesn’t care, they don’t care, and no petition is going to change it.

Good point. At the very least maybe it would get the talking heads on TV to stop implying that Foxconn is an Apple owned factory.

I would love to see Apple, and others, bring manufacturing back here. I understand that is easier said than done, but that doesn’t change my feelings on the situation.

But wouldn’t that be pointless? If a company doesn’t care, they don’t care, and no petition is going to change it.

You will be surprised how fast a company (as long as it’s name isn’t Halliburton) gets religion when they’re put in the spotlight.

I would love to see Apple, and others, bring manufacturing back here. I understand that is easier said than done, but that doesn’t change my feelings on the situation.

Those Foxconn assembly jobs are labor intensive, low tech, piece-work jobs that will just be totally nonviable at US wage scales.  Steve was telling the truth when he said those jobs are gone forever.  And that’s not Apple’s or any other person’s fault. They don’t do those in Japan, Canada, Germany, and the rest of western Europe, and the only reason we would want jobs like those to come back here is if we aspire to become a 3rd world country.

And even if Apple somehow is able to bring home iPhone assembly, it would be in an ultra automated factory that would employ a handful of people.  The factory would actually look deserted save for the machines that seem to run on their own.  Right now though, the technology to make that factory feasible is either non-existent or deathly expensive.

@aardman

As I said easier said than done, but I still want manufacturing and assembly done here. Even if it only creates a few thousand jobs, or even a hundred, but a lot of robots. It is more than just jobs, I don’t trust the Chinese not to put backdoors into our electronics. Maybe there is oversight to see that it doesn’t happen/ However, since it is something I would do if I was building electronics for an economic and military rival I have my concerns.

Not to say that Foxconn can’t continue to build Apple products for the Chinese and other Asian markets.