Chinese Manufacturer Accuses Apple of Ripping Off iPad Design, Threatens Lawsuit

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A manufacturing company in China is accusing Apple of ripping off the design of the iPad from a tablet it introduced in Berlin in 2009. Shenzhen Great Loong Brother Industrial (SGLBI) of Shenzhen, China, thinks the iPad is copied from its own Windows tablet, the sexily named P88 (see image below). The company said it would sue Apple if and when the iPad was introduced to the Chinese market.

The news was broken by Spanish newspaper El Mundo, which reported that company president Xiaolong Wu, said: "I was very angry and flabbergasted two days ago when I saw the news of the iPad presentation. It is certainly our design. They've stolen [it] because we presented our P88 more than six months ago at the IFA (International Electronics Fair in Berlin)."

The devices share several characteristics: They're both rectangular, they both have a touch screen...And that's it. The P88 runs the tablet version of Windows, the P88 is thicker (22mm for the P88 vs. 13.4mn for the iPad), and larger. The P88 also comes with a variety of ports and inputs the iPad lacks, making the iPad a poor copy if that was Apple's intent.

The P88 uses a hard drive, compared to the Flash memory storage on the iPad, offers 1.5 hours of battery life, compared to 10 hours on the iPad, and is more expensive, at US$535 (available only in China), compared to the $499 price tag on the entry level 16GB iPad.

El Mundo noted that the P88 itself resembles the Apple product lines that spawned the iPad, namely the iPhone and iPod touch. That's not an issue, according to Mr. Wu, because the, "[the iPhone and P88] are products with a completely different function."

No word yet on whether Mr. Xiaolong is familiar with the English word "irony."

Mr. Xiaolong is concerned about how the iPad could negatively affect sales of the P88 should it come to China. He noted that sales of the device have so far been lackluster, but lackluster could turn to worse-than-lackluster should Apple compete with its stolen design.

"We are considering legal action, but we can not do much in the United States. But if Apple brings the iPad to China, we will be forced to [sue] them, because it will certainly affect our sales," he said

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Comments

Tiger

Lackluster…is that Chinese for nonexistent?

Bryan Chaffin

Real life so often provides the most comedic stories. You can’t make up something this funny. smile

Jeff Gamet

Good thing the P88 and iPhone are products with “completely different function,” otherwise we could be looking at some crazy litigation between Apple and the eloquently named Shenzhen Great Loong Brother Industrial now that the iPhone is officially available in China.

Carlos Z??iga

Is this some article from The Onion?

Lee Dronick

I am sure that an agreement could be reached for a small consideration.

robofly

Anything for a slice of the world’s attention. Now what was I doing just before this?

CudaBoy

Listen, racism doesn’t make us look any better. Let’s clean it up.
Chinese company names are typical of Shenzhen Great Loong Brother Industrial - who are you to make fun of it? Apple is a friggin’ fruit; maybe a very funny name for a tech co. in the eyes of the Chinese. Calling P88 “sexy” is about as funny as naming a touch screen tablet after feminine protection.
Considering we are in debt to China to the tune of $321 BILLION and most all electrical things in your house are built in China, I think we should have more respect for them.
Yeah, I know y’all are being cute, it’s just not funny.

Bill

Maybe Apple should sue them for this:

http://en.hkjulong.com/Product-31.html

iJack

Listen, racism doesn?t make us look any better. Let?s clean it up.

It isn’t racist, CudaBoy.  But it is at least culturalist, and maybe even snobbish.

All societies have a long tradition of both culturalism and snobbery, so chill.

marcsten

http://en.hkjulong.com/Product-31.html

More irony - this company makes a half baked iMac? And they are going to sue?

tommccarty

So Apple is a “friiggin fruit” is so lame a retort as everyone knows that is a complete falsehood and not a joke. I take it serious when people defame for humor. If you don’t like Apple products.. go where you will be more appreciated . The Troll Road


cudaboy ( your handle) 
So let’s clean it up for non-tekkies

iPad it is not a feminine product

CUDA is the computing engine in NVIDIA graphics processing units not a Dodge car, not a case where you wish you could been a boy. Get it?

I don’t think your handle makes you savvy. Please keep your anti-Apple humor to yourself please. Or flame away as I know you want too

xmattingly

Translation? “There is no chance in hell that we can compete with Apple on the world market… so we’re protecting our turf.”

Bryan Chaffin

Hey folks, let’s not let this discussion degenerate. smile

Cuda, there is simply zero racism behind anything I wrote. I also make fun of many poorly named PC products out there.

That said, I appreciate your diligence. It’s easy to misunderstand the intent of something, or even just to interpret it differently than it was intended.

CudaBoy

So Apple is a ?friiggin fruit? is so lame a retort as everyone knows that is a complete falsehood and not a joke. I take it serious when people defame for humor. If you don?t like Apple products.. go where you will be more appreciated . The Troll Road


cudaboy ( your handle)
So let?s clean it up for non-tekkies

iPad it is not a feminine product

CUDA is the computing engine in NVIDIA graphics processing units not a Dodge car, not a case where you wish you could been a boy. Get it?

I don?t think your handle makes you savvy. Please keep your anti-Apple humor to yourself please. Or flame away as I know you want too

Tom,
What are you blabbing about?
I am an Apple fan. I’m not anti-Apple. You obviously don’t see the point I was making which is making fun of Chinese nomenclature would be the same as them making fun of an American co. name because it’s a fruit. Get it?
My handle? What does that have to do with it -except that you don’t ‘get’ that either, you see ‘Cuda is short for Barracuda by Plymouth - not Dodge, and I own one - see?
You want to be “savvy”? Try ‘enlightenment’.

CudaBoy

Cuda, there is simply zero racism behind anything I wrote. I also make fun of many poorly named PC products out there.

I understand, Bry. The real humor to me is the ridiculous products that China and other Asian countries throw at the market to try to topple or at least compete with Apple’s genius. And of course, threats of lawsuits regarding those funny products is just plain psychedelic as that P88 really has only one thing in common with the iPad - a touchscreen.
I am just wary of the obvious “isn’t that a funny named company” comments rather than concentrating on the actual hilarity - that Windows slab!!  d:)

Bryan Chaffin

Yep, I totally get that, CB.  I was personally trying not to mock them for their name, BTW, as I understood that it’s an issue of translation and local customs.

Dick Brass, though - unfortunately named, as much I agree with most of his assessment.  The same with Dan Dobberpuhl, and he is one smart dude who has accomplished a LOT. smile

Some names just lend themselves to snarky comments, my own included (I’ve taken a LOT of smack over the decades from my last name - in highschool, my fellow drummers called me Chaffballs…get it?...and that was just the start).

For this story, the humor to me derives entirely from Mr. Wu’s myopia and self-delusion.  And his large brass cojones, with apologies to Mr. Brass.

CudaBoy

my fellow drummers called me Chaffballs

Preachin’ to the choir, B. My last name is Finch. My brother’s name is Jay. Is that bird-brained?? http://www.macobserver.com/imgs/smileys/icon_smile.gif

Lee Dronick

Hey CudaBoy and Brian Chaffin at least your not named after a damnable Adobe browser plugin. smile

Jeff Gamet

Hey CudaBoy and Brian Chaffin at least your not named after a damnable Adobe browser plugin.

I totally missed the Adobe dig until you pointed it out. After seeing that, I see how easy I had it as a kid dealing with the “Dammit Gamet” jokes. grin

CudaBoy

All we need now is for Mike Crosoft to weigh in!! d:D

Bryan Chaffin

Is his middle name Robin, Cuda? Sparrow?

Which reminds me of the time I was asked by a friend what the awesome book The Sparrow is about. I told her it was the true story of Cap’n Jack, totally deadpan, assuming she would know I was joking.  Turned out she took it at face value and was a little surprised…

Lancashire-Witch

Years ago a regular feature writer in “Computer Weekly” was a German guy by the name of Meinhard Donker.

But he didn’t last long.

So I don’t think you have much to worry about, Bryan, when it comes to having a bit of fun with names.

(Yes. Computer Weekly! Launched in 1966 in the UK and still going - last I looked)

Bryan Chaffin

Meinhard Donker? 

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH!!!!

GASP!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Oh my…

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aardman

My last trip to NYC, I was in Chinatown and came across a business establishment that went by the name “New Big Wang Restaurant”.  I think that’s just hilarious.  Am I a racist?  grin

Corner of Elizabeth and Bayard.  Anyone know if it’s still there?

gslusher

The real irony is that Chinese companies are notorious for not respecting intellectual property rights from other nations. This has been a major stumbling block in trade discussions, as the Chinese government seems to have no interest.

Bryan Chaffin

The real irony is that Chinese companies are notorious for not respecting intellectual property rights from other nations. This has been a major stumbling block in trade discussions, as the Chinese government seems to have no interest.

I left that part of the story out: Shenzen is an area known for producing copycat devices - the name of the city has been turned into a noun that is synonymous for pirated electronics. A pirate, copy cat iPhone or BlackBerry (etc.) would be “shenzai.”

Mr. Wu said his device was not shenzai because it came out before the iPad.

Dean Lewis

I kind of wish I had a name that lent itself to nicknames and jokes. I’ve been saddled with a pretty boring “Michael Dean Lewis,” and there are so many other Michael Lewises out there that I get to do great things like deal with confused dental and doctor records or constantly prove I’m NOT the one who has a revoked license in Tennessee whenever I get my driver’s license renewed. Argh!

Wait, what was the topic again? smile

xmattingly

Mr. Wu said his device was not shenzai because it came out before the iPad.

The funny thing is that there were probably a half dozen other tablet devices with a similar form factor to Wu’s, well before they unleashed their “groundbreaking” design on the world.

Lee Dronick

Mr. Wu said his device was not shenzai because it came out before the iPad.

I am sure that the iPad has been in development longer than 6 months.

Terrin

We are in debt to China not because of any regular Americans doing. We are in debt to it because our leaders sold us out in the name of so called free trade agreements were americans workers who believe in things like human rights and good working conditions now are supposed to compete with essentially free labor.

Further, we are in debt to China because of a system that allows COuntries to buy another Countries debt. China bought US debt. THe US didn’t borrow anything from China.

Considering we are in debt to China to the tune of $321 BILLION and most all electrical things in your house are built in China, I think we should have more respect for them.

cb50dc

By this line of thought, Ford should probably sue pretty much every other car manufacturer, retroactively to the first Model A. The majority of cars have a relatively rectangular shape overall (viewed from above), four wheels, a steering wheel, seats, and an engine that does pretty much the same as any other car (though with varying levels of performance, comfort, etc.)

marcsten

Actually, Ford was the first mass-produced car (more like Apple in our story) while hardly the originator of the automobile. The first generally similar in most ways to cars we now drive came much earlier in the Olds curved dash, I think it was called by Mr. Odls of Oldsmobile fame.

Intruder

My last trip to NYC, I was in Chinatown and came across a business establishment that went by the name ?New Big Wang Restaurant?.? I think that?s just hilarious.? Am I a racist??

Corner of Elizabeth and Bayard.? Anyone know if it?s still there?

Closed. Now named Yee Li.

jzon

apple is given too much credit here for originality. most of their products are copied from other countries whose people are way ahead of the US in terms of consumer devices.

Lee Dronick

apple is given too much credit here for originality. most of their products are copied from other countries whose people are way ahead of the US in terms of consumer devices.

Timely response to the article there jzon. Perhaps Google Search is running slow. Anyway, give us some examples.

PS: Fix your keyboard’s shift key.

Bryan Chaffin

apple is given too much credit here for originality. most of their products are copied from other countries whose people are way ahead of the US in terms of consumer devices.

Jzon, in addition to your shift-key issues, I’ll suggest you are precisely and 100% wrong. smile

At least about Apple. I’ll readily acknowledge that Japan, South Korea, and parts of Europe were far ahead of the U.S. in the cellphone market - from the handsets to the infrastructure to the services offered, the U.S. was way behind.

The same goes for many home entertainment devices, especially in Japan and South Korea.

But in computers, smartphones, and now tablets, Apple has been the innovation leader that Asian technology companies have been following to one degree or another for the last 14 years (almost all computer manufacturing was done in the States before then).

Operating Systems: The only non-U.S. competitors are Linux-based.

Computers: The rest of the world still lags far behind Apple’s industrial design, and always has.

Smartphones: Apple’s iPhone and iPhone OS is far ahead of every other device on the planet.

Tablets: iPad wasn’t the first tablet, but it’s the first to combine the features of iPhone OS with Apple’s innovative UI approach.  What did it copy?

Feel free to offer some contrary examples.

Lancashire-Witch

from the handsets to the infrastructure to the services offered, the U.S. was way behind.

Are you sure it is “was”, Bryan? (I can’t find a suitable smiley to go with this!)
The only place I see comments about the quality of the iPhone carrier is the USA. I have no issues with Vodafone.

Otherwise I agree 100%, jzon has certainly lowered his case.

MARIO

My bet is this same manufacturer knocks off iPods and iPhones. Funny pictures.

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