The Return of TypeStyler

| Ted Landau's User Friendly View

Back in the 1990's, there was a popular text-manipulation program called TypeStyler. When Mac OS X arrived on the scene, Strider Software (TypeStyler's developer) announced that an OS X compatible version of the program was on the way.

Fast forward to September 2009. The promised TypeStyler update has still not shown up. Ordinarily, you might assume this meant that the company went belly up or otherwise abandoned the project.

Not so. The folks at Strider Software have been working on TypeStyler for Mac OS X for all of these years. In fact, Strider Software ran ads for the promised program throughout the entire period. You can still find these ads at various Web sites, including here at The Mac Observer:

TypeStyler ad

I can imagine some head-scratching at this point:

"Works great in Classic"? Are they kidding? Most Macs today don't even run Classic.

"Native OS X Version on the way"? On the way? They must have gotten seriously lost en route. Or is this some sort of joke?

Skip to the present. Here's the big surprise. It's no joke. Having overcome obstacles, both business and personal, Strider Software informs me that (trumpets, please) the wait is over! TypeStyler for Mac OS X will be available for purchase by October 15. I have the latest version of the program installed on my Mac. It's real, it runs, and it's impressive. 

I often used the original TypeStyler (the last major version was TypeStyler 3) — and loved it. It was one of those jewels that not only worked well, but triggered a rare "Holy cow! I can't believe what this program can do!" reaction. TypeStyler could manipulate text in a remarkable variety of ways. From distortions to fills to shadows to opacity level to "you name it" — TypeStyler could do it. No matter what your skill level, you could get great results in next to no time.

There isn't any Mac software, past or present, that can match TypeStyler 3. Probably the closest competitor is Art Text — an excellent program but not in the same league as TypeStyler.

In other words, all Strider had to do was convert the original TypeStyler to a Mac OS X version and it would have a winner. And that's what they did. But Strider did not stop there. They've thrown in an array of new features that make the program superior to its Classic predecessor. Here are two at the top of my list:

Container text. Any text object in TypeStyler for Mac OS X can be a container for a variety of fills. A particularly fun fill option is to use photographs from an iPhoto Library. You can choose to have each letter in a text object contain a different photo, or have one photo span across an entire object (as shown with the ocean beach photo in the Cookie Jar text below). I further spruced up the initial text with a custom style and distortion.

Cookie Jar text

Visualizer. With TypeStyler for Mac OS X, you can choose from document templates for an assortment of different projects, including 3D objects such as bags, jars and boxes. With the Visualizer tool, you can view a 3D rendering of how the finished project will look. In the figure below, I placed the Cookie Jar text as a label on a virtual jar (my idea was for the beach photo to symbolize the vacation that money stashed in the cookie jar would help pay for).

Visualizer

You can rotate the jar 360° and modify the text for attributes such as size and location. You can even modify the shape and size of the jar itself. You can save a rotating view as a QuickTime movie, so people without TypeStyler can watch it. When done, you can print out the project and paste the result on an actual jar.

As I've already said, the sheer number of different ways TypeStyler can manipulate text, and the diverse ways in which the effects can be combined, is immense. While this is a good thing overall, it can become overwhelming. I'm still trying to figure out a few of the options in the Style Workshop. Of course, if you wish, you can bypass this glut of choice by instead selecting from TypeStyler's preset options (which will be more than enough for most users).

TypeStyler for Mac OS X still has a few kinks to be worked out. A Fill Series dialog is present but does not yet function and the TypeStyler online FAQ is still under construction. But Strider Software assures me that these issues will be addressed before the October 15 launch. Regardless, they are not deal-breakers.

So let's give a warm welcome back to one of the Mac's finest programs. It's show time for The Return of TypeStyler! Dim the lights. Raise the curtain.

Comments

Intruder

While I am glad that Typestyler didn’t go the way of Duke Nuk’em Forever, it would have been nice if they at least answered the numerous requests for status updates that I have sent them over the years. Never a response to a single e-mail.

kit

They did occasionally answer my emails about what was going on and I did end up buying Copy # ONE of the program at Mac Computer Expo.

It’s Very nice.  I would call it beta +++. That is, it’s very stable and mostly complete, but still being updated on a regular basis.

Tiger

NINE YEARS?

I emailed Strider religiously in 04, 05, 06, etc., and occasionally I would get the stock answer “it’s coming.”

By 2007, I stopped believing. And moved on. When I got my Intel based Mac and migrated from my G4, i migrated nothing from Classic since it wouldn’t run anyway. So, my license is long gone, we’ve moved offices, and finding anything from the original packaging is hopeless. So, instead of being able for upgrade pricing if so offered, I’d really have to start from scratch. But since so many new tools have come out to accomplish the same things, it’s pretty much a foregone conclusion I won’t be buying it again. Nine years between updates makes Microsoft seem like Speedy Gonzales.

Lee Dronick

To quote Governor William J. Lepetomane in Blazing Saddles “What’ll cost man, what what’ll cost!” I couldn’t find a price for the product on their website.

kit

The upgrade price is $99.95. The new price is $199 I believe. You will have to call or email them as the site hasn’t been ubdated yet.

Lee Dronick

The upgrade price is $99.95. The new price is $199 I believe. You will have to call or email them as the site hasn?t been ubdated yet.

Thanks Kit. I think that it will make a good Christmas present for a certain family member.

Steve

But Strider Software assures me that these issues will be addressed before the October 15 launch.

Yes I’m sure they did, after all you are giving them free adversing so they want a positive review. But they also assured everyone for many, many years that the OS X version was due our Real Soon Now.

Works great in Classic. That’s sad if not so funny. The program doesn’t work on a Mac made in the past 3-4 years.

So if there are bugs, and there will be, will that mean another 2-3 years for a bug fix?

Ted Landau

But they also assured everyone for many, many years that the OS X version was due our Real Soon Now.

Absolutely. Me included. I was told that a new version was due out RSN back in early 2008. Obviously, that did not turn out to be the case. But I truly believe they are for real this time, which is why I wrote the article. If I get burned on this, I will be as annoyed as anyone. I remain optimistic.

MacGraphicGuru

I had my doubts, too. I was sure there would never be another TypeStyler.

But I have it running on my brand new iMac right now, under Snow Leopard, and I love it! It even opens my old TypeStyler documents.

I’ll report back if I see any problems, but so far everything looks great.

torpeau

I’d check Strider’s website one or twice a year, but I had given up hope. I sure am glad I saw Ted Landau’s report.

Billy Gore

I too contacted them numerous times over the years. Used Typestyler from V.1, before Broderbund. It’s been so disappointing to see the little ads proclaiming ‘Coming Soon’.

Typestyler was a very good program. But today I have ArtText for quickies, Photoshop and Illustrator for more complext designs and fills. To be honest, $99 for an upgrade is an insult after waiting so many years. And it doesn’t look that much better.

I just think, too little, too late, too much.

Ted Landau

To be honest, $99 for an upgrade is an insult

To be honest, when writing the article, I did not think much about the cost of the upgrade. Now that you mention it, I agree. The upgrade price should have been more like $49, at least for a limited time after the initial release. Ultimately, I guess the market will decide if Strider priced it right or not.

MacGraphicGuru

Billy, Strider told me they’d have a free 60 day trial of TypeStyler available to download next week. So you may want to try before you buy.

Personally, I couldn’t wait to get my favorite tool back, so I just paid for the upgrade and they gave me a link to download it. Best 99 bucks I ever spent!

TypeStyler’s export of Photoshop layers alone is worth the price to me.

Billy Gore

Well, I’m glad if it turns out to be worth the wait. But I still feel, on shaky moral grounds perhaps, that their price points are unrealistic and will hamper their sales. Half the price, and I think the increased sales will prove more profitable. But I’ve only been using the Mac, and been involved in both marketing and design since 1986 so what do I know?

$200 in this economic climate for this more than one trick pony, is a hard sell. I have no problem shelling out big bucks for Adobe Suites, but I do so much more with and make money from them. I do know how to achieve things that Typestyler can’t, but always appreciate the time savings from that product.

I was happy when Art Text 2 brought in layers so I could achieve quickly the effects for a one off design. It wasn’t the same as the old Typestyler, but not that much less. As to 3D work, I cut my teeth using texture mapping in 3D and appreciated how add-ons for AI, and later how Photoshop CS2 had a 3D mode, making it even easier.

Basic shapes, like those included in the new Typestyler, are not that big a deal. I look for much more realism, especially for package design. To me it’s almost a non-starter. Basic 3D modeling and decent rendering, would go some way to justifying the price tag. There are a number of 3D programs for free or way under their price point that will let me do what I want.

Anyway, I don’t mean to discourage people from trying or buying the product. To me it always was a milestone in bringing text manipulation to the everyday Mac user. So best of luck to them. I just feel let down on a number of fronts.

Billy Gore

Exporting as PS layers is a good feature, of course! MacGraphicGuru, hope to hear more of your experience with the program.

BWilcox

WOW, it’s finally here! I’ll download the free trial next week and give it a spin http://idisk.mac.com/weelcot/Public/linked/partyhat.gif

BWilcox

img tags don’t work I see :(

Lohn Dingler

Hi Ted,
How about a story on the personal problems causing the delay in years? Once it’s released, will the release have been a heroic accomplishment due to successfully overcoming overwhelming odds or not? Did he experience an emotional breakdown or something, hence his long trek through the wilderness? Or was it caused by mere mismanagement and/or incompetence?

I mean, surely, there has to be a bigger story behind the very long delay, yes? If so, the story should be told, and you should tell it since you seem to have an insider’s access.

How big is the development shop? Is it possibly just him and his Carpel tunnel wrists working alone, slowly, in a dimly lit RV resting on cinderblocks in the back?

What about his struggle, if any, to recover his software after recapturing it?

These all would make for fascinating reading.

I wonder if TypeStyler’s time has passed it by. It was awesome at the time on OS9 but now it seems as if other programs, as Billy Gore mentioned, are infringing on its former exclusive territory.

$200 is indeed excessive for, really, what amounts to a PS plugin, when I can buy Photoshop—and have—for about $240 at the university with my professor’s ID. I have the very elegant and easty-to-use ArtText, but its capabilities are not up to OS9 TypeStyler’s.

Billy Gore

Ditto! Well said.

Lohn Dingler

Ted,
*LOL*! Strider’s home page says, “The wait is over! Don’t believe it’s true? Read about it from Mac luminary Ted Landau at The Mac Observer.”

He is citing you as the authority that vouches for his promise. His appeal is fallacious on two fronts.

First, you can’t be the authority since you are a writer not TypeStyler’s developer, so he is appealing to a false authority, a logical fallacy.

Secondly, he has given you a lot of previously unknown information. We don’t know if it’s true or false. You wrote about it. We want to believe you because you are supposed to deliver news that is reliable. From a reader’s perspective, this makes you the higher authority on his alleged progress. However, an appeal to a higher authority to back up one’s claim or assertion is another logical fallacy.

Now, his amusing appeal to your status is, well, harmless because—and here I am assuming—a developer has above average ability in the use of logic needed when coding, yet he is using fallacies which are bad logically.

This time, however, it’s likely that Strider is truly going to release TypeStyler on October 9, 2009 as reported because there seems to be no rational or business reason why he would try to fool a respected writer and a respected news site whose services he would need to use in the future to promote the software.

Kurt

Now if only we could get an OS X version of Hypercard.

Bob Nicholson

The price makes this a non-starter for my compnay.  It seems like the pricing and marketing strategy is also a decade out of date.

At $99…  or preferably more like $69…  this program could find a mass market. 

At $199, there are better ways to spend our software budget.

Phosphor

Been waiting on this for years. Looking forward to a test drive, at least.

So have a few other faithful TypeStyler fans. This thread over at Mac OS X Hints forum has been regularly added to since August of 2004:

http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=26772

There were always things that TypeStyler did that NO other software was capable of doing, as easily.

Jazzman

I had been using TS through its various versions since about 1989. Same comments as most of the posters. above.  Got a couple of personal replies from the Stillmans over the years, but I found them not to be overly communicative. Several messages 5, 4, 3, and 2 years ago were answered with such as “in a month or two” or “in about six weeks” and a promise of a beta to test about 6 months ago. This tests my patience and makes me wonder how reliable their customer support will be.
Also far too expensive. A lower price would realise more sales and ultimately greater profitability.

torpeau

If that 60 day free trial is true, I’ll sure give it a try. Assuming it works as well or better than the OS 9 version, I’ll pay for the upgrade.

Phosphor

TypeStyler has been one of the strongest reasons I’ve had for remaining a staunch advocate for being able to run apps in the Classic Mac OS environment. With a true OS X version of this application, I can quit thinking about looking for a PowerMac G5 as my next hardware purchase and to get current with Intel processors.

torpeau

I would guess that the new TS will run using Rosetta. I would doubt the Strider re-did everything when Apple moved to Intel.

kit

It’s universal so Rosetta not needed

Jazzman

The MacOSX Hints forum is full of fans, but thoroughly disillusioned ones. The main complaint is the dishonest way the Stillmans have been promising for years that TSX is “just a couple of weeks away”. That doesn’t bode well for any future claims he makes, bug fixes, or customer support.

armyartist

I have purchased the latest upgrade. Yes, I agree the upgrade cost, especially for those of us who still have v1 - v3, and upgraded before, should not pay $100. $30-$45 would be understandable.  With this said, I have started playing around with the new version and it’s a winner.  It’s a robust graphic design package, capable of things that cheaper software can’t compete with. If you are designing a lot of logos, etc., this will prove to be still well worth it. 3D layouts are great.  They should team up with Google SketchUp or Carrara?

Phosphor

Info from Italy, Google-translated:

http://xrl.us/bfsdh6 (Link to translate.google.com)

Phosphor

The following statement from Typestyler.com’s “About” page might put a smile on the faces of some of those concerned about the pricing structure:

“Users who purchased TypeStyler after 2003 should contact Strider directly, because their upgrade price is simply the difference between the upgrade cost and the amount they have already paid. This could be as little as ten dollars!”

Niiicce!

Phosphor

(And yes, it’s officially 15 October?both here on the East coast and in Menominee?and you bet your sweet patootie I’m already looking for the Demo version!)

armyartist

There you go - discounted price, great program and they (Strider) are ready to do what they need to do. They had the guts to stick with it, so let’s lighten up. It is design software afterall and not the cure for cancer…

Billy Gore

The following statement from Typestyler.com?s ?About? page might put a smile on the faces of some of those concerned about the pricing structure:

?Users who purchased TypeStyler after 2003 should contact Strider directly, because their upgrade price is simply the difference between the upgrade cost and the amount they have already paid. This could be as little as ten dollars!?

Niiicce!

Well, I bought Typestyler 1.0 when it was first offered, when the heck was that? Late 80’s, I believe. I know 2.0 came out in ‘89 when I got that during MacWorld Boston. So I have been a faithful users since the beginning. But full upgrade pricing, which I still contend is overpriced, is in my books. So if someone bought an OS9 version of the program way after OSX came out, fine. Me, I didn’t look back.  I don’t mind paying $7-800 bucks to upgrade my Creative Studio software but I get a lot more for the too high bucks. But I do make my living from that. When you consider how many programs are being upgraded it works out to similar costs to this. So, due to my warped set of principles, I’ll hold off this upgrade. I do wish Strider and Dave Stillman the best of luck.

billy

Luke

Tried the demo today and I?m very impressed as I was ten years ago. The examples inside the media library are not very elegant though (still the same as in 3.7.2 -causes eye cancer sometimes). For me the program is an endless playground. But I could not find the Visualizer mentioned by Ted. Where is it?

MacGraphicGuru

I have a new Intel iMac and an old Powerbook and the Visualizer button wasn’t in the toolbar on the Powerbook like it is on the iMac. Dave at Strider told me that they couldn’t get the Visualizer fast enough on Power PCs so they made it only available on Intel macs. Apparently, you have to have an Intel Mac to even see the Visualizer button.

Ted Landau

Apparently, you have to have an Intel Mac to even see the Visualizer button.

This is true. And I should have mentioned this in the article. Mea culpa.

Hookoa

Once it?s released, will the release have been a heroic accomplishment due to successfully overcoming overwhelming odds or not? Did he experience an emotional breakdown or something, hence his long trek through the wilderness?

The one time I called the company, back in 2001 or 2002, I got his mother on the phone, and got the impression that he was trying to run the business out of a back bedroom or similar.

So, I assumed, rightly or wrongly, that the company probably wouldn’t last much longer and that the “company” was experiencing REALLY hard times. 
Glad to see that the software is back on the market and that the driving force is back in operation!!!

David Illig

Too much, too late. Illustrator, Photoshop, LiveType, even humble little Art Text. I’ve had nine years to learn to do this stuff without paying $100 for an upgrade that’s nine years late. I wish them luck. but they’re going to have to go on without me.

Jazzman

Ted, the visualizer appears not to be available for a great many recent Dual core Intel machines either. Your review above clearly extols the virtue of the visualiser tool, apart from which there are very few significant new features. Is all this a continuation of the Stillmans’ use of smoke and mirrors that we have grown accustomed to?. Now that we finally have an upgrade of TS are we now supposed to upgrade our very recently purchased, expensive Macintosh machines to be able to use it?

When will the madness stop?
The price asked just to be able to use TSX on OSX/new machines is therefore a blatant abuse of Mac users’ intelligence, and TSX cannot possibly have required nearly ten years of development.

Clearly ‘Strider’ software is a one-man show and more reminiscent of a medieval market stall than a professional 21st century IT company. Their products, like Persian carpets may be genial, but their marketing methods are more like those used in a Middle East bazzar.

As a former avid supporter of nearly 20 years, I am grossly disappointed.

Ted Landau

Ted, the visualizer appears not to be available for a great many recent Dual core Intel machines either

I don’t recall that being the case. I will check with Stillmans for a reply.

As to “very few significant new features,” I would differ with you. There are numerous nice touches throughout, such as layers and break-apart text, to name just two that I did not mention in my article.

As to whether or not the price is worth it…that will be for the market to decide. I have no personal stake in this one way or the other. I would assume if sales are not as good as hoped, the price will drop. We’ll see.

Ted Landau

Your review above

One more thing. This may seem picky, but I don’t consider my article to be a “review.” For a review, I would spend much more time going into the details of the software, testing things out, and offering critical evaluations (positive and negative).

This article was more like a news story covering the arrival of TypeStyler, briefly touching on what is new. Clearly, I offered a positive opinion of what I saw, which I suppose pushes it toward the “review” category. But I would still make a distinction. FWIW.

Jazzman

Fair comments Ted. However, the Stillmans need to be sure that they are selling what they are describing or giving to their beta testers, and expecting the public to hand over (a lot of)  money for. Would you buy a new car from a catalogue   to find out once it has been delivered   it doen"t come with wheels?
BTW - For each ‘new’ feature they’ve introduced, they’ve dropped an old, really useful one,  and the new website doesn’t give a clue about what the software is or does. - Not exactly the way to win new customers.

armyartist

Ted, your article and review was spot-on.  These goof-balls who have an axe to grind over software development need to get a life. As a current combat artist with the USAF, who has walked through mine-fields in Afghanistan and has documented what happened during Hurricane Katrina, and now designs PRO-BONO logos for our military, could care less about these morons and their opinions. The program works, they will discount for past users - what else do they need?

Jazzman

By morons and goofballs, I suppose you mean me (I’v’ had worse things aimed at me in the war zones). Offering a product with an honest trade description, and reasonable customer support is worth every bit of moral fibre as walking through a minefield (been there, done that too). The Stillmans haven’t got it. The Internet is a marketing minefield - one false move and you’re out of the picture. A real shame for what was an exceptional program at a realistic price. You’re dead right on one point: New users won’t know what they are missing.
On another point, you work pro bono so you should be one of the first to complain about stiff prices for something that amounts to little more than a very late porting to a ten-year-old Mac platform,  and having a couple of new features that aren’t worth a rave review, a couple of worthwhile features that have not been retained, and an apparently major feature that is not even included in the released download for nearly $200.
Mybe postings by morons and goofballs will help them devise a business plan.

Ted Landau

Here is the reply from Dave Stillman, re Visualizer requirements:

“The Visualizer isn’t available in some early MacBooks and Mac minis through March of this year and 17” iMacs (mid and late 2006) that have the integrated Intel GMA 950 graphics chip. We found it doesn’t have the capabilities to run the Visualizer. This wasn’t discovered until last Sunday. Version 10.6.33 that we up put Sunday addressed this.

If you look at the link I’ve included you’ll see the GMA 950 is about as low end of card Apple could have used. If you look at the capabilities of the 950 compared to the other cards their key capabilities are limited.

Specifically the severe limit on the size of GLSL programs which the Visualizer relies on.

http://developer.apple.com/graphicsimaging/opengl/capabilities/index.html

We thought it was better to exclude the Visualizer from running on Macs using the GMA 950 than to disallow running TypeStyler on them at all.

Other than PPC Macs and the GMA 950 equipped Macs there shouldn’t be any reason for not having the Visualizer. Not having the Visualizer doesn’t affect the overall functionality of TypeStyler.

I did make note of this in the updater notes and will find a place to put it on the website too.”

torpeau

I guess after 60 days of free use, we can make up our minds whether or not we want to pay.

In view of all the new Mac users in recent years and the uniqueness of TS, I think the product will do well.

Jazzman

Not having the visualiser affects the price! Are we supposed to second guess the Stillmans when we are purchasing a new Mac? I think it’s bad show when it won’t run on recent machines.
I still maintain that the whole TSX saga is a fiasco, and is probably going to remain so, with a lot (and I mean a lot) of frustrated faithful previous users.
Let’s hope that the Stillmans don’t care about losing 1,000 of previous clients and starting over. personally I don’t take such risks with my own software company - our mainstay is our existing client base, our reasonable - and very regular updates - and being communicative without putting up smoke screens.

sjsw

This is the “updated” version? That took eight years to develop? For $200.00! Unbelievable! The equivalent in the auto world would be if you today “upgraded” your ride to a 72 Ford Maverick, and paid 20 grand for the privilege. This is a great example of a P.T. Barnum sales pitch. Don’t let nostalgia scramble your brain, there are other tools now that do what this does (with a modern Mac interface) at much more reasonable price points. Shop Around!

Lohn Dingler

Hi SJSW,
It’s certainly an impressive tool, more than a mere plugin-like app. After examining TSX’s look and briefly testing its commands, I think that its UI does not fully resemble OSX’s, and instead feels like OS9s, especially in the tools palette. Hope the developer updates this to OSX’s look and feel.

MacGraphicGuru

I’ve now been using the new TypeStyler for about 10 days and there is no other software that comes close to its power, features and ease of use.

I struggled along for the last couple years with ArtText but it is clunky and so limited compared to TypeStyler! I am thrilled to have this wonderful tool back!

Just download their free 60 day tryout and judge for yourself—if you liked the old TypeStyler you’ll love this new one. It is an exceptional piece of Mac software!

Rose

It’s great to have TS back and it’s certainly still as unrivaled as it ever was, in performance if not in price.  I miss some of the features that were in TS3, and it will take a while to get used to remembering where all the controls for all the familiar functions have now been relocated. It seems that there is an unnecessary duplication - or even triplication - of access to functions which cases some confusion. It looks as if the programme has been OSXified by adding bits on. It’s a shame that some features won’t run on some quite recent Macs which people will be using for at least four years before they change their machines. Hmmm… another long wait.
Anyway, TypeStyler now has a dedicated support forum  where all our questions, hopefully,  will be answered.

Billy Gore

Sorry, but I’ve been trying it and feel it is still a work in progress. Besides some export problems, I find the way Text entry works is awkward, editing it even more so. There is no line spacing, I find the controls for controlling styles inconsisitent, the adjustment of the shaders rough, and, of course, the interface looks immature to me.

I am happy that he made the program OSX native, but there is a feeling of dissatisfaction in this user’s mind. I felt the original Typestyler, for its’ time, was easier to use, and smoother in operation. I’m sure that eventually Dave will keep developing the software, as he did in its’ pre-OSX incarnations.

Perhaps those who hadn’t used the prior versions, or have less expectations and demands might find it worthwhile. I don’t feel you get Value for Money here. But I do hold out hope, and think it’s a good, albeit inadequate for me, first step. I will, however, continue to experiment with it. I feel that the 60 day free trial is extremely welcome, and something that other software developers should emulate.

MacGraphicGuru

I didn’t see the line spacing or any other text layout controls at first either and thought they were missing. But click on Typesetting in the tool bar and you’ll see line spacing and kerning and all kinds of text layout controls.  I can tweak the line tightness, character width and kerning in seconds to get a logo looking exactly like I want.

I’ve spent many thousands of dollars over the years buying Adobe products, lots of little utilities and a slew of plugins, so for me and a lot of others, $99 for a time saver like TypeStyler is a no-brainer.

diane

A little disappointed - it’s more difficult to use than the old version. I need to put text in a horseshoe shape and cannot for the life of me make it work easily in the OSX version. In frustration I reinstalled Tiger on the original drive still in my G4, and made in in 3.72 in 5 minutes. <sigh>

Text manipulation is MUCH more difficult. Seems like once you’ve got the basic shape and text, it’s hard to get back in and modify it.

If there is a way I’m missing, I’d sure love to know about it. Hell, I’d even read a manual (not that I ever had to do so with TS3)

Hope it gets better, especially for the price.

torpeau

There’s a new version available to download that may help you. Maybe it’s just me, but I never found TypeStyler too intuitive and that’s still the case, but play with it enough, and it does work.

jtl

The company doesn’t respond to e-mails, which means that support is likely non-existent.  I asked them for info. on the upgrade price, and I didn’t get any response.  Many years ago, it was a simple and great program.  I think it’s now dead in the water.

torpeau

>The company doesn’t respond to e-mails, which means that support is likely
>non-existent. I asked them for info. on the upgrade price…

There have been several updates since TypeStyler’s rebirth, so maybe he’s busy on further updates. Anyway, the upgrade price is posted on his website.

diane

There?s a new version available to download that may help you. Maybe it?s just me, but I never found TypeStyler too intuitive and that?s still the case, but play with it enough, and it does work.

Interesting, I always found the old version to be very intuitive. This one, I smash my head on the desk! Ah well, I am downloading now, so I’ll see how that goes. Thanks!

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Ted, as an old time fan of Dave Stillman’s work, loved TypeStyuler back in the day, and I was wanting to respond at length to this news. But I got wiped out—twice. First, I interrupted my writing to check the TypeStyler site for a couple of facts, using the link in your post. That link used the same page, so it dropped my connection to this site (and wiped out my nearly completed comments) and switched to the TypeStyler site. A well managed site with many links should open the links in a new page or a new tab, not the same page/tab. Using the back button in Firefox did not get me back to “saved” comments. They were gone.

The second time I lost my comments was when I wrote them all again, then clicked “submit”/ Rejected—too many URLs. Oh no! Comments gone again! They should have been saved so I could fix them up. Buggerit~!!!

Something(s) needs to be fixed in the Macobserver site.

Cheers, Geoff

Geoffrey Heard
Publisher, Editor, Business Writer
The Worsley Press

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geo frayne

sucks-the new version just sucks

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