For those $20 they can ship 3 CDs from their Cupertino campus to my house address in The Netherlands. But no, I’ll end up paying $20 x 3 = 60 Guilders for this update, where ever I get it. My local mac store or the online Apple Store.

I wasn’t going to weigh-in on this issue at all but I feel the need to now.

Bryan, Your points are valid. (if possibly exaggerated for effect)  If you want to look at CD distribution costs, look at magazines that include them. The whole package only costs $7, and that includes the cost of producing the whole magazine. And it’s hard to get past the whole “Free” update being $20.

but…

Who among us isn’t going to pay for it? I for one will GLADLY pay for the CDs. It will become my full-time OS when 10.1 hits town. I knew what I was getting into when I bought 10.0 though. I wanted to get a head start on the technical side of the OS.

The only people that Apple “ripped off” were the people who already knew what they were getting.
It’s not really a big deal.
-Dan

Issue 1
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Here is a quiz for you:
If Apple announces an OS update is going to be available and cost $99, How much are you going to pay? 

You pay $99 plus SHIPPING AND HANDLING of $20. Or you buy it from a retail store, you don’t pay the S&H. 

No store is going to sell a product with a selling proce of $0.00, so you are going to be left with getting directly from Apple.  So if Apple sells a product for $0.00, how much are you going to pay?  If you can’t figure out that you’re still going to pay S&H, how on earth were you smart enough to buy a Mac in the first place?

Issue 2
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Did you whine this much when Apple charged $20 for S&H for every other OS relaease? 

Issue 3
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Have you figured out that since the update is free, you can order one and make copies for your friends.  Have you figured out that if you run an office of 30 Macs you don’t have to buy 30 copies of the update to maintain compliance with the license agreement?

People, stop whining and get back to your life

On 2001-09-07 08:09, Anonymous wrote:
Issue 2
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Did you whine this much when Apple charged $20 for S&H for every other OS relaease? 
People, stop whining and get back to your life

I didn’t whine. But I didn’t pay $20 for S&H. I could download it.

On 2001-09-07 08:43, hoytt wrote:
I didn’t whine. But I didn’t pay $20 for S&H. I could download it.

They’ve already had three downloadable updates.  And don’t you think that if it was viable to download it that Apple would do it that way, and avoid all the whining that is going on.

They’ve already had three downloadable updates.

So what?

And don’t you think that if it was viable to download it that Apple would do it that way, and avoid all the whining that is going on.

It is viable.  Cf. someToast’s earlier post:

And as a CD burner-owning, Cable modem-user, I don’t give a fig about 61 hour download times at 28.8 (oh, boo hoo! Whatever will the 300 baud modems do?)

You may call them updates, but in my opinion they were nothing more than needed bugfixes. Remember that OS X 10.0.0 (4K78) was unusable on a PowerBook due to a flaw in the usage of the battery. They were drained too quickly. Apple fixed it. That’s a bugfix, not an update.

On 2001-09-07 08:09, Anonymous wrote:
Issue 3
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Have you figured out that since the update is free, you can order one and make copies for your friends.  Have you figured out that if you run an office of 30 Macs you don’t have to buy 30 copies of the update to maintain compliance with the license agreement?

Apple’s confirmed that the 10.1 license allows us to freely distribute copies? This is excellent news! This means making copies in the Apple stores will be possible—let the burning begin!

You wouldn’t happen to have, um, a link or release from Apple to back up this claim, would you?

Is it just me or has this turned into the TMO forum regulars (30+ posts) versus the anonymous and newly-registered posters?  I know this has nothing to do with the argument, but I do find it interesting.

Best regards,
Brad

This is an argument that I intend to publish shortly, but I thought I would add it here now.

When Apple released X 10.0, we were told that the missing features would be included in an update “this summer.”  That is an implied contract that says “if you buy it now, the missing features will be added later.”  I took that implied contrcat to heart.

The brilliant analogy I will be using on Monday is this:  A guy comes to paint your house.  You know him and have done business with him before.  He paints everything, but he doesn’t have the right paint to finish the window sills.  He asks you if he can come back next week to finish the window sills, and gives you the bill.  Hey, this guy is honest, does great work, and is trustworthy.  You pay the bill knowing he will be coming back to finisht the job.  Besides, the house looks great, the unpainted window sills aren’t really noticeable, and you can ignore them until he comes back.

The last thing you expect is that he is going to come back, finish the job, and charge you an extra US$20 because he had to buy an extra tank ful of gas.

THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT!  Feel free to share that brilliant anaology with all your friends.

This is consistent with everything I have written, and almost everything TMO has published about Mac OS X since before it was released.  Mac OS X is awesome, will work well for most Mac users, and will be completed with version 10.1.

More on Monday.