On 2001-08-18 21:39, Raena wrote:
Bah.  in Netscape 4, if you resize a page with layers, they go all out of alignment… so to fix that, any page you make has to have a script to detect whether it’s Netscape and force a reload when a resize is done.

I *hate* that. Hate it with a passion.  IE seems to render pages quicker for me, anyway.

I was viewing a webpage of a friend in Netscape and the page didn’t render well. What had happened, the bugger had made it an IE only page. Thinking that since the majority of the ppl is forced to use IE, he wouldn’t have to make sure whether his page worked well in other browsers. He had used M$ frontpage with M$ tags, making it a M$ only page.

Some peoples behavior puzzles me….

How can anyone like Netscape…. are you deaf/dumb/blind???

not only is it relativly option-less, it has a difficult to use and it has a horrible interface….

Not only is IE visually pleasing to say the least, Its user modifiability is easier and give you a wider range of alteration.

I suppose its just like the PC vs. Mac thing…. it really depends on what you were “brought up” on…

still…... IE wins hands down….. in my oppinion

Hey, I use lynx when I can. For one think, I avoid a passel of pop-up ads saying “Now you can spy on your girlfriend!” and those “Spank the monkey and win $100!” banners.

Net-who???

I used to use Netscape Navigator exclusively but as it languished, IE kept getting better (OK, catching up for most of the time, but still).  I tried NN 6 and simply couldn’t get anything done and had to switch back to IE.  I really hope that AOL/Netscape manages to put out a quality browser, but I don’t see it happening.  For Windows users, Microsoft is making sure that they HAVE to use IE (or at least think that they do).  For OS X there are so many quality browsers becoming available (iCab and Opera have been mentioned in this forum several times) that I don’t see Netscape coming back from the beyond.

The only thing that could save the Netscape browser, IMHO, is making it the default browser in AOL.  But with AOL’s agreements with Microsoft (shakey though they may be) I don’t see that actually happening.

I agree.  As a former Netscape supporter, they are toast.  It is slow, sluggish, and unMaclike.  It is a shame, because they used to the best, but like an old champ, they are now a chump. 

I use Opera and iCab and I am very happy.

Chuck Haislip

The reason I don’t use IE is not that I dislike MS but that I am paranoid and don’t want MS ‘taxing’ my personal info. I use iCab almost exclusively now unless there is a page (like my bank or the local mlb team) that it just cannot handle (which I pass to NS). iCab will automatically open ftp links in NetFinder and use my mailer of choice. Like the sig one sees on comp.sys.mac.system from time to time that goes something like ‘I want to browse with a browser, read news with a newsreader and mail with a mail program. Why use a swiss army knife when you can choose the right tool?’ It is lean, relatively fast, highly flexible and it suits me.

I tried Opera briefly for Linux, and it really knocked me for a loop: it did the @#*$ing multiple windows within a window, which is very un-X-like not to mention un-Mac-like. Haven’t seen the Mac version, but if they went to the trouble to make a Linux app feel like a Windows app, I can only guess what horrors they dreamed up for the Mac version - and I would rather not find out

I agree, the window-within-a-window setup for Opera on Linux is horrid, but the Mac version is much better. As seen in this offical screenshot , the Mac version uses normal separate windows just like other Mac applications do.

One thing that really bothers me about it in OS X is that it does not yet support scroll wheels.  All the others - IE, OmniWeb, Mozilla, Netscape, and iCab - work with my scroll wheel, but not Opera.

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Right now I only use NS 6.1 in OS 9.2.1.  And for OS X, I use Mozilla 0.9.2 almost exclusively.  IE for OS X is slow and unresponsive, but I use it for online banking only.  Mozilla just rocks and is the fastest one I have used.

I have been unimpressed with IE, iCab, Opera, and Omniweb, which is just slow as molasses in January…  yes, I am a hick and proud of it! 

As I recall, there was some thing about NT web servers giving preference to IE, hence lending an impression that it was faster than other browsers - has anyone tried spoofing IE with iCab to see if there is an apparent overall speed boost?

I’m 99.9 Netscape! Have been since 2.x and don’t want to change. Besides sharing the dislike for MS software, there are other advantages! The first one that comes to mind is viruses!!!!! As a rule we have very few, but if you are Mac and running Netscape the odds of being infected drop even more.