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    Posted: 03 October 2005 07:05 AM

    :D   I’m finally starting up my printing shop (already ran my 1st job!). I might get into some advertising also. My question is: can you set up a website using a .mac account? Let’s say I named it printers.mac, could I direct people to my public folder and set up a website within that public folder?

         
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    Posted: 07 October 2005 06:57 AM #1

    :bugeyed:  I hope that I didn’t ask a “dumb” question? I’ve more or less just used my mac in the past for creating things to print (using Photoshop, Illustrator, and Quark on OS 7, 8, and 9). Any input at all would be appreciated - even just a yes or no.

         
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    Posted: 07 October 2005 08:48 AM #2

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    I’m not sure if you can set up a website as described. I am, though, reasonably sure that such a site wouldn’t show up in search engines. The amount you’re thinking of paying for advertising might be better spent on a good hosting plan with a reputable hosting company. Personally, I swear by Hostway , and use them for all the sites I build at my day job , and for all of my clients’ sites, too. They have hosting plans that start at only $8.95 per month, and URLs only cost $6.95 per year.

    The plan I usually recommend to my clients is the Gold Plus plan, which has more storage and bandwidth than anyone will ever need, 60 email accounts, and PHP/MySQL.

    Having said all of that, how do you plan to market your print shop? I ask because I buy print services all the time, and—more to the point—printers are trying to sell their services to me all of the time. If you want to bounce a few ideas off of me feel free to either comment in this thread or send me a PM. And good luck with your business!

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    Posted: 07 October 2005 11:36 AM #3

    Nice web site mrmgraphics!  :D
    You do good good work.

    My “DAY” job is 3rd shift Press Specialist in a scannable forms print shop. We run Didde webs with perf, punch, glue, and numbering capabilities (mostly all at once, it seems, and most of the time lately) and lot’s of 4-color too.
    I’ve also ran a 13 unit Goss Community, a 6 unit DGM, and an 8 unit Harris at various points in my career.

    In my spare time I run my Davidson 251 and my A.B. Dick 360 out of my garage. I use my new iMac G5 and my HP 5000N to make plastic printing plates (Autotype or Kimoto). I mostly print B-cards and envelopes and an occasional flyer or wedding invitation. I also have an old 25” paper manual paper cutter.

    What I’m looking for is a “place” that my print customers can send their text or artwork to me electronically. A lot of them have their logo’s stored digitally now and some even have entire jobs ready (more or less) for me to print directly to my plate (that sure beats scanning in someone’s beat up business card to get a logo that you spend the next hour working on to get it looking respectable!!)
    I also want them to be able to view selected things that I have printed in the past.

    I’m also thinking about starting a free monthly shoppers guide in my town, delivered door to door, to about 4000 homes. I’d like to be able to direct readers of this shopper to this “place” for extra’s like recipes or extra coupons or whatever. I also want to be able to change my extra’s whenever I need to.

    Does Hostway or anybody do all of that? Let me know please. smile

    My goal right now (with a wife and twin 12 year old boys to think about) is to keep my good paying job with benefits while slowly building up regular clients in my home print shop. If things go well enough, hopefully, I will be so busy that I won’t need the job in 6 years or so.

    Thanks again for replying and I look forward to hearing your reply on this!


    P.S. I’m really new to OS X and it has been a change for me, but I think I’m getting the hang of it (not ready for the Terminal yet though!)

         
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    Posted: 07 October 2005 12:54 PM #4

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    [quote author=“burreyeann”]Nice web site mrmgraphics!  :D
    You do good good work.

    Thanks!

    What I’m looking for is a “place” that my print customers can send their text or artwork to me electronically. A lot of them have their logo’s stored digitally now and some even have entire jobs ready (more or less) for me to print directly to my plate (that sure beats scanning in someone’s beat up business card to get a logo that you spend the next hour working on to get it looking respectable!!)
    I also want them to be able to view selected things that I have printed in the past.

    I’m also thinking about starting a free monthly shoppers guide in my town, delivered door to door, to about 4000 homes. I’d like to be able to direct readers of this shopper to this “place” for extra’s like recipes or extra coupons or whatever. I also want to be able to change my extra’s whenever I need to.

    Does Hostway or anybody do all of that? Let me know please. smile

    Hostway doesn’t actually build websites, nor can they add features like you’ve mentioned above to existing websites. How it works is that a web designer (like me, an agency, etc.) creates a website via hand-coding, Dreamweaver, Adobe GoLive (in my case), etc., including all of the HTML, graphics, Flash, PHP, etc. Those files are then uploaded via FTP to a server that Hostway has set up; the moment the files are there, the site is live. So you can think of any website built this way having three key members:

    the client who needs the site and knows what functionality is needed
    the web designer who translates the above into HTML, PHP, etc.
    Hostway (or another hosting company) who makes the site accessible on the Net

    Once uploaded, its the web designer’s job to perform site maintenance, rather than Hostway. Hostway’s job is to keep the web servers running 24/7, and to date I only ever had one incident of downtime, and it was resolved in less than 5 minutes, which is why I stick with them.

    Regarding the features you’re looking for, all are easily implemented on a website that has PHP/MySQL. Regarding the “place” where your customers could send electronic files, that’s easy. Your website needs browser-based file upload capability. A toll & die-shop client needed similar functionality a few months ago, so customers could upload part drawings as PDF or AutoCad files. Here’s the file upload form, and please note that this is live, not a beta, so don’t try it!!

    http://www.carbitech.com/rfq.php

    The PHP/MySQL I’m using with the form is very slick. You can easily set limits on filesize and filetype, receive automatic emails whenever someone uploads a file, and more. The admin area where you’d access the files is password-protected, too, and not linked to the RFQ/upload form in any way. Your customers could use that exact same set-up to send you electronic files, with no worry of choking an email server.

    Your next feature is for customers to have the ability to see things you’ve already printed. This is an online portfilio, and is fairly easy to accomplish. The simplest thing to do is to get all of the things you want in the portfolio—electronic files, digital pics of actual printed pieces, etc.—and get them into a single directory in JPG format. If I was creating your site, I’d then take the directory and create a “Photoshop gallery” that will give you both thumbnail images and—when the thumbnails are clicked—larger images. This is a really neat automated Photoshop function. I create HTML templates to match the look and feel of the website, and Photoshop does the rest, as it did for the site I built my brother’s band:

    http://www.makingtrax.com/mtgalleries/sru2004/index.html

    That’s the quick-and-dirty way to do it. More sophisticated galleries can be made that wouldn’t even need me. You’d upload images via your web browser, and your website would generate the thumbnails and expanded images. You could even have site visitors comment on the images. I haven’t implemented a gallery like that, though, so I can’t show you an example.

    The third feature you’ve mentioned is a way for customers to get coupons, recipes, etc. online. That’s easy. You also want the ability for you—not a webmaster—can change such extras. That’s easily doable with a type of content management system that lets you upload files. There are dozens of ways to implement this based on how you’d create either the recipes or coupons or other extras. As text? Word documents? PDFs? Regardless, yes, this can be done. Your site could even have an integrated blog, forums (just like these), and a ton of other features…anything to keep your 4000+ subscriber base from the shopping guide tuning in. You could even have a banner ad program on your site, where local vendors could advertise, giving you extra revenue.

    I’m just starting work on such a “community” site, and will keep you posted. Meanwhile, feel free to keep this dialogue open, and good luck!

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    Posted: 11 October 2005 06:24 AM #5

    Thanks again for replying. Hope you got the e-mail I sent you mrmgraphics.


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    Posted: 11 October 2005 01:30 PM #6

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    I not only received your email, but sent you a very lengthy reply yesterday. Did you happen to receive that?

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    Posted: 11 October 2005 01:31 PM #7

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    I not only received your email, but sent you a very lengthy reply yesterday. Did you happen to receive that?

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    Posted: 11 October 2005 01:32 PM #8

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    I not only received your email, but sent you a very lengthy reply yesterday. Did you happen to receive that?

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    Posted: 11 October 2005 07:01 PM #9

    No I did not receive your e-mail. It’s————- Please send it again.

    smile  Just getting rid of my e-mail address so spammers don’t get it any easier.

         
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    Posted: 12 October 2005 07:36 AM #10

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    OK, my message has been emailed again. Pls let me know if you receive it. If not, I’ll paste it into a PM.

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    Posted: 12 October 2005 09:12 AM #11

    Well it’s 11 a.m. and no e-mail yet. I’ve got 3 other emails today, don’t know what’s wrong?

    We can talk right here in this thread.

    ( 3rd shift is rough, time to try and sleep)

         
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    Posted: 12 October 2005 09:32 AM #12

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    I’ll send you a PM.

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