gonna test recent hi of 139.40

I’m in for a scalp

[quote author=“Tommo_UK”][quote author=“SNIPUS”]iPod touch and Nano goes on sale in India!!! this is great
http://www.techgadgets.in/features/2007/14/apple-launches-new-ipod-family-in-india/

Considering the abject poverty much of the country lives in, that’s a bit like celebrating Ferraris going on sale in Detroit

Everyone knows that 80% of India’s population cannot afford a shuffle priced over $100. However, I am 100% sure you know that there are over 100 Million in India who can afford a Shuffle at $100. At least 50 Million of those 100 Million can afford a $500 product, if they wanted to!

TOMMO, I am one of the people who gets so much from your other contributions, but I must say I am truly disappointed in your lack of focus on the numbers and diversion to ethnic and cultural biases!

I have edited this post rather than deleted it. Quantman if you or anyone else have personal comments on Tommo or any member of the forum use the PM facility. That is what it is for.
Snipus

*grabs popcorn*

[quote author=“quantman”][quote author=“Tommo_UK”][quote author=“SNIPUS”]iPod touch and Nano goes on sale in India!!! this is great
http://www.techgadgets.in/features/2007/14/apple-launches-new-ipod-family-in-india/

Considering the abject poverty much of the country lives in, that’s a bit like celebrating Ferraris going on sale in Detroit

Everyone knows that 80% of India’s population cannot afford a shuffle priced over $100. However, I am 100% sure you know that there are over 100 Million in India who can afford a Shuffle at $100. At least 50 Million of those 100 Million can afford a $500 product, if they wanted to!

TOMMO, I am one of the people who gets so much from your other contributions, but I must say I am truly disappointed in your lack of focus on the numbers and diversion to ethnic and cultural biases!

I have edited this post rather than deleted it. Quantman if you or anyone else have personal comments on Tommo or any member of the forum use the PM facility. That is what it is for.
Snipus

Really Quantmann I appreciate your financial analysis but cannot help being disapointed by this last post and the lack of humour and ‘esprit de finesse’ It seems there is a cultural gap . Let us try to overcome it. I am sure you are misinterpreting Tommo’s opinions.

ThinkSecret says no 3G iPhone for European release

European iPhone to arrive in November
September 14, 2007 - Apple will unveil its plans for the iPhone in the United Kingdom at a London media event next Tuesday, but the device will not be available to consumers until the first half of November, according to fresh information passed along by Think Secret sources. The Euro-spec iPhone will not be equipped with 3G network support, as some have speculated.
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The exact iPhone UK launch date will likely land during the week of November 12, although sources have said there is a possibility the iPhone will be in stores the previous week. As previously reported, O2 will be the exclusive official carrier of the iPhone in the UK.

Apple is expected to host a similar media event in France the following week, around September 24, to usher in the iPhone’s arrival in that country. The news will come ahead of Apple Expo, which kicks off September 25 in Paris. France Telecom’s Orange unit will be the exclusive provider of the iPhone in France, and phones are expected to arrive in the hands of French consumers around November 29.

Meanwhile, T-Mobile is also slated to start selling the iPhone in Germany some time in November, although details of that product launch are less certain at this point.

European consumers are expected to be less forgiving of the iPhone’s EDGE data support, as the much faster 3G network standard is widely deployed in the region. Development of a 3G-equipped iPhone continues, however, and sources say Apple could start shipping such a model as early as February 2008, much to the chagrin of early iPhone adopters in Europe.

[quote author=“Hamourabi”][quote author=“quantman”][quote author=“Tommo_UK”][quote author=“SNIPUS”]iPod touch and Nano goes on sale in India!!! this is great
http://www.techgadgets.in/features/2007/14/apple-launches-new-ipod-family-in-india/

Considering the abject poverty much of the country lives in, that’s a bit like celebrating Ferraris going on sale in Detroit

Really Quantmann I appreciate your financial analysis but cannot help being disapointed by this last post and the lack of humour and ‘esprit de finesse’ It seems there is a cultural gap . Let us try to overcome it. I am sure you are misinterpreting Tommo’s opinions.

Sorry, I did not see that as a humorous post. Maybe that is the issue.

In any event, even if that was a humorous post, then it is not out of the question, I think, for people to be perturbed by that humor.

I don’t see why people in India cannot ‘celebrate’ getting iPods ( for the very first time after all these many years) or people in Detroit being able to have access to and buy Ferraris.

One cannot make fun of an entire city or a country,  simply because that city or that country has problems within them. These problems; abject poverty in India, or the problems with Detroit cars or people there, is not something that is humorous, in the context of Apple.

[quote author=“quantman”]One cannot make fun of an entire city or a country,  simply because that city or that country has problems within them. These problems; abject poverty in India, or the problems with Detroit cars or people there, is not something that is humorous, in the context of Apple.

Quant, please re-read, and re-think. Just where in my post do you see me making fun of India, or Indians (turban-wearing, Hindu, Muslim, or otherwise)? For crying out loud… you’re being McCarthy-esque in your sensitivity and accusations.

[quote author=“quantman”]

Sorry, I did not see that as a humorous post. Maybe that is the issue.

In any event, even if that was a humorous post, then it is not out of the question, I think, for people to be perturbed by that humor.

I don’t see why people in India cannot ‘celebrate’ getting iPods ( for the very first time after all these many years) or people in Detroit being able to have access to and buy Ferraris.

One cannot make fun of an entire city or a country,  simply because that city or that country has problems within them. These problems; abject poverty in India, or the problems with Detroit cars or people there, is not something that is humorous, in the context of Apple.

You are substantially right and Tommo certainly agrees with you. But salt and spices on the way we express things makes life more tasty.

[quote author=“Tommo_UK”][quote author=“quantman”]One cannot make fun of an entire city or a country,  simply because that city or that country has problems within them. These problems; abject poverty in India, or the problems with Detroit cars or people there, is not something that is humorous, in the context of Apple.

Quant, please re-read, and re-think. Just where do you see me making fun of India, or Indians (turban-wearing, Hindu, Muslim, or otherwise)? For crying out loud… you’re being McCarthy-esque in your sensitivity and accusations.

OK, then TOMMO. I will just dismiss this from my mind and take your word for it and move on.

Cheers,

[quote author=“quantman”][quote author=“Hamourabi”][quote author=“quantman”][quote author=“Tommo_UK”][quote author=“SNIPUS”]iPod touch and Nano goes on sale in India!!! this is great
http://www.techgadgets.in/features/2007/14/apple-launches-new-ipod-family-in-india/

Considering the abject poverty much of the country lives in, that’s a bit like celebrating Ferraris going on sale in Detroit

Really Quantmann I appreciate your financial analysis but cannot help being disapointed by this last post and the lack of humour and ‘esprit de finesse’ It seems there is a cultural gap . Let us try to overcome it. I am sure you are misinterpreting Tommo’s opinions.

Sorry, I did not see that as a humorous post. Maybe that is the issue.

In any event, even if that was a humorous post, then it is not out of the question, I think, for people to be perturbed by that humor.

I don’t see why people in India cannot ‘celebrate’ getting iPods ( for the very first time after all these many years) or people in Detroit being able to have access to and buy Ferraris.

One cannot make fun of an entire city or a country,  simply because that city or that country has problems within them. These problems; abject poverty in India, or the problems with Detroit cars or people there, is not something that is humorous, in the context of Apple.

I think we all need to remember the thread of not-so-long-ago ...live and let live…don’t take posts personally…try to consider who is making the post…and, most of all…lighten up…life’s really too short to take everything *so* seriously…  

There are SO many problems in the world.  I believe most here are aware of them, but I, for one, don’t want to see this board degrade into what other internet investment boards seem to be, which is NOT a good thing. 

[quote author=“quantman”][quote author=“Tommo_UK”]Quant, please re-read, and re-think. Just where do you see me making fun of India, or Indians (turban-wearing, Hindu, Muslim, or otherwise)? For crying out loud… you’re being McCarthy-esque in your sensitivity and accusations.

OK, then TOMMO. I will just dismiss this from my mind and take your word for it and move on.

Thanks. As my final remark on this, I should point out that it was actually SNIPUS’ enthusiasm for the announcement that iPods were now available in India [and the unspoken assumption that this would be beneficial for AAPL] that I was gently poking a bit of fun at. I wasn’t mocking or making fun of India or Indians at all

See this now re: UK iPhone availability.

[quote author=“Tommo_UK”][quote author=“quantman”][quote author=“Tommo_UK”]OK, then TOMMO. I will just dismiss this from my mind and take your word for it and move on.

Thanks. As my final remark on this, I should point out that it was actually SNIPUS’ enthusiasm for the announcement that iPods were now available in India [and the unspoken assumption that this would be beneficial for AAPL] that I was gently poking a bit of fun at. I wasn’t mocking or making fun of India or Indians at all

Tommo, thanks for clearing that up. As I said, I am now past it.

I am also quite enthusiastic about the annoucement because I think it could add $1 Billion in annual sales to Apple in the next 2-3 years (from Ipods and other Apple products). Even if 1 million, or less than 1%, of the 1.2 Billion people spent $1,000 per yr on iPods for their family, friends and as business gifts, that would be $1Billion in sales, from iPods alone.

Quant, longer-term India is going to be as big of an influence on the world economy as China, but short-term while there is indeed a lot of wealth there, the gap between rich and poor, and the pooling of that wealth in columns towering above a sea of poverty, is immense. India is an incredibly disorganised and corrupt country and a bureaucratic disaster story with a creaking, Dickensian legal system and a paralysed executive unable to devise a truly strategic approach to developing the country’s economy.

What progress there is in India is driven by incredibly entrepreneurial individuals and business people in spite of the Indian government, and not because of it. For the country to truly prosper - and offer a ready, willing market for expensive Apple products - it must undergo a sea-change in its government, and in its attitudes towards its own citizens.

Not to mention dropping the quite incredible import taxes for foreign goods.

But yes, given the enormous population and burgeoning gadget-hungry middle classes, the iPod should hit the ground running where its available.