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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:12 AM [ Ignore ]
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UK Launch on 9th November
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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:14 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 1 ]
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Standing by in Los Angeles.  Thanks for the info, Tommo.  In this case, I think you’re my sole news source.  Keep it coming as you hear it.  We’re “listening”!

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:14 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 2 ]
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Re: The UK 18th Sept Result Topic

[quote author=“Tommo_UK”]UK Launch on 9th November
Ј269
O2
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Surprised it’s that far off. I wonder why it’s not sooner. EDGE rollout, perhaps?

EDIT: Best coverage seems to be http://live.slashgear.com/ and Engadget.

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:29 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 3 ]
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10:27 am Vincent Nguyen: The contract for the phone will be 18 months, and unlimited data usage actually means 1400 web pages per day
10:27 am Vincent Nguyen: the iTunes WiFi music store will be launching later ter this month and will be loaded onto the upcoming UK iPhone
10:26 am Vincent Nguyen: iTunes activation will work the same in the UK as it does in the US
10:26 am Vincent Nguyen: Will we see the same Starbucks Partnership? Steve says we’ll have to ask Starbucks

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:32 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 4 ]
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10:26 - Q: Is unlocking a concern?

“It’s a constant cat and mouse game—we have the same thing with the iPod with music.” Steve looks at Matthew, “Are we the cat or mouse?” ‘We have to stay one step ahead of them.”

Q: To Matthew, what do you have to do to get your network ready for the iPhone?

“We’re investing in EDGE. As many people have noticed, hey I have EDGE! By launch we’ll be north of 30% and build from there.” Only 30% folks. It’s important to remember that many parts of Europe doesn’t use EDGE, they’ve often moved on to UMTS (i.e. 3G)!

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:32 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 5 ]
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10:30 - Q: Were you aware that the iPod touch was coming out when you were negotiating the iPhone deal?

Matthew: “One of the great things about working with Apple is they are always moving forward.” Yes, and one of the great things about O2 is how it dodges questions.

Steve: “Well, one’s a phone, and one’s not. The iPod touch is training wheels for the iPhone.” Ha! Oh boy, that’s rich.

Q: How many [iPhones] do you hope to ship before Christmas?

Matthew: “80% of high end customers from other networks would be willing to switch carriers based on their data.” But he won’t discuss specific sales numbers.

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:36 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 6 ]
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10:32 - Q: What are your plans for iPhone launch in Europe, and your reaction to upsetting other carriers who feel played-off in terms of not getting this deal?

Steve: “We said we’d be in a few countries in Europe and we still plan to do that. As to the carriers, we took the approach to see who would be the best fit—it’s like going out on a few dates before getting married. So yeah, we have a few upset girlfriends out there.” Laughter.

10:35 - Q: Can you be more specific about other European countries? [You know you’re talking to Steve “Stonewall” Jobs, right?]

Steve: “We’re here to talk about O2 UK, and that’s all we’re willing to talk about today.”

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:40 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 7 ]
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Q: Why not one single European carrier if O2 is such a good fit?

Steve: “We were faced with lots of decisions to make and we think we’ve made the right decisions. We certainly have with O2.”


(What a stupid question… O2 doesn’t cover the whole of Europe! Idiot)

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:42 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 8 ]
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More stupid fcuking questions - what waste of a chance to ask something interesting:

10:37 - Q: “Ј900 for 18 months on up to Ј1260. Any assurance you won’t slash the price by 1/3rd?” (Laughter.)

Steve: “I don’t think that’s going to happen. But this is technology so you never know. We have no plans to change the pricing, but we guarantee it will change in the future just like all technology products. We’re working on the next iPhone and the next one after that. That’s what our customers expect.”

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:49 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 9 ]
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That’s it.

So the iPhone will be the equivalent of about Ј230+ VAT = Ј269

... or $460 + VAT = $540

(for those unaware, VAT is our sales tax)

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:51 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 10 ]
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it seems they are taking orders right now for the iPhone in London. Limit of 2 per customer and credit cards and debit cards only. No Cash!!!

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:53 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 11 ]
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Here is the deal

http://shop.o2.co.uk/promo/iphone

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:53 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 12 ]
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[quote author=“Tommo_UK”]
So the iPhone will be the equivalent of about Ј230+ VAT = Ј269

... or $460 + VAT = $540

(for those unaware, VAT is our sales tax)

So now we can ratchet up by $5 the average sales price for 2008q1.But I expect prices for the Ђuro zone will be between US and UK retail prices.

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:53 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 13 ]
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Morning guys,
Just wondering how they will keep track of “pages viewed”?

“...1,400 internet pages per day would break the deal as part of fair usage agreement…”

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:57 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 14 ]
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[quote author=“ChasMac77”]Morning guys,
Just wondering how they will keep track of “pages viewed”?

“...1,400 internet pages per day would break the deal as part of fair usage agreement…”

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That’s a lot of page views, especially on a small screen. I doubt you’ll average anything near that number. It’s likely a data limit rather than a page limit, so putting VoIP on the iPhone will make you hit that limit fairly quickly.

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Posted: 18 September 2007 12:58 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 15 ]
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[quote author=“ChasMac77”]Morning guys,
Just wondering how they will keep track of “pages viewed”?

“...1,400 internet pages per day would break the deal as part of fair usage agreement…”

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What he’s saying here, I think, is that 1400 page views per day would unconditionally break the fair use, not that that is how the limit is expressed; and he doesn’t say if WiFi hotspots are included in the limit. He did say the same deal was going to be available on other phones from 1st October, so we may be able to see the fine print then. Probably my largest worry about what’s been announced is the 30% Edge coverage, and capped data.

edit: i.e. in the worst case it could be that even 1400 views of a plain text “hello world” page would break fair use, and the limit is actually quite a small data limit.

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