[quote author=“dmiller”]Now, the iPhone software update just so happens to make it MUCH more secure and unhackable than the original version. That should be a good thing, shouldn’t it? Because it’s so secure (which is “good”; in fact, better than good, “great”). But: uh oh…. it also defeats jailbreaking the iPhone, which, for unauthorized 3rd party app development to date, is “bad”.

In this context, doesn’t it start to become a little bit easier to see why Apple’s stance HAS to be the way that it is?

I could not agree more!

I would start to complain if Apple will NOT fix security holes and will NOT improve their software!

The real problem is that there is no legal way of unlocking the iPhone, but hacking is certainly not a good way to solve this.

I noticed some of the “security” pros are complaining that Apple bundled the security fixes in with the application enhancements in the recent upgrade. They would like the security updates as a separate bundle, so that the user to get the beifit of the safe OS, but still have the choice to remain at at earlier level (i.e.- unlocked with third party apps).

I don’t own an iPhone yet, and would probably be fine with ATT as my service provider. But I also find the third party app development very seductive. I’ve been following the development of new apps as they have appeared, and many are very useful. My ideal world would see Apple release an SDK for such developers, and bless them the way they do the thousands of widgets that have appeared for the Mac.

Ultimately we have to respect Apple’s choices in the matter, since the future development of the iPhone is still basically a mystery.

Looks like I’ve been quoted again. First USA Today, about the iPhone price cut, the other week; and now Business 2.0, from what I wrote here late at night earlier in the week:

here

Good to know that “everyone”, including the press and the blogs, is reading these boards. (I don’t know what, as an investor, I’d be able to do without them).

[quote author=“dmiller”]Looks like I’ve been quoted again. First USA Today, about the iPhone price cut, the other week; and now Business 2.0, from what I wrote here late at night earlier in the week:

here

Good to know that “everyone”, including the press and the blogs, is reading these boards. (I don’t know what, as an investor, I’d be able to do without them).

From the article

If Apple were to take responsibility for not breaking existing 3rd party functionality, they would be just as “stuck” as Microsoft has been, for years, with Windows having to support a legacy base of code and drivers. All dependent on the past. Where did legacy support get them? Years and billions down the drain, to arrive at: Vista. What else needs to be said?

Apple has to “own” the phone, and the internals, and the state of the phone, and they need to be able to move it quickly, to improve it. (link)

Third-party programmers like Sadun don’t necessarily disagree. But that doesn’t make them any less saddened by the developments of the past week.

“It’s disappointing, because the iPhone was a very good platform,” she says. “It was delight to use and a delight to write for. It’s a shame.”

In other words, Apple were dead right to do what they did, but programers hate them for it anyway. So nyah.

Unlocked iPhones up to GBP400 ($800) on ebay (GBP269 is the UK price of iPhone).  Perhaps by Nov 9th I’ll be able to sell mine and pay for a new one and pay for the O2 contract

[quote author=“sleepygeek”]Unlocked iPhones up to GBP400 ($800) on ebay (GBP269 is the UK price of iPhone).  Perhaps by Nov 9th I’ll be able to sell mine and pay for a new one and pay for the O2 contract

Well, if you can’t, you could always sue Apple for reducing your profit.

[quote author=“dmiller”]Looks like I’ve been quoted again. First USA Today, about the iPhone price cut, the other week; and now Business 2.0, from what I wrote here late at night earlier in the week:

here

Good to know that “everyone”, including the press and the blogs, is reading these boards. (I don’t know what, as an investor, I’d be able to do without them).

This is uncanny.  Being qouted about Apple in two news stories, and both times being picked out from a crowd without any effort or intention on your part.  Nice head trip. 

There must be something in your prose that sets reporters hearts aflutter! 

[quote author=“dmiller”]Looks like I’ve been quoted again. First USA Today, about the iPhone price cut, the other week; and now Business 2.0, from what I wrote here late at night earlier in the week:

here

Good to know that “everyone”, including the press and the blogs, is reading these boards. (I don’t know what, as an investor, I’d be able to do without them).

They couldn’t even get your username correct, “tmiller.” 

[quote author=“gslusher”][quote author=“dmiller”]Looks like I’ve been quoted again. First USA Today, about the iPhone price cut, the other week; and now Business 2.0, from what I wrote here late at night earlier in the week:

here

Good to know that “everyone”, including the press and the blogs, is reading these boards. (I don’t know what, as an investor, I’d be able to do without them).

They couldn’t even get your username correct, “tmiller.” 

Well if they used his real handle they might have to pay him a siteing fee.

[quote author=“daemon”] Well if they used his real handle they might have to pay him a siteing fee.

Did you mean a citing fee?

BTW, that whole article is basically a rehash of this thread.  They even cite the obscure piece linked to by Hamourabi, Brockerhoff’s State of the iPhone posting.

Weird. 

[quote author=“alcatholic”]BTW, that whole article is basically a rehash of this thread.  They even cite the obscure piece linked to by Hamourabi, Brockerhoff’s State of the iPhone posting.

Haven’t you noticed the author? He’s quoted a number of AFB posters (inc. yours truly) in the past

[quote author=“Tommo_UK”][quote author=“alcatholic”]BTW, that whole article is basically a rehash of this thread.  They even cite the obscure piece linked to by Hamourabi, Brockerhoff’s State of the iPhone posting.

Haven’t you noticed the author? He’s quoted a number of AFB posters (inc. yours truly) in the past

No, I haven’t noticed this AFB quotathon in the press until now.  Is this author AFB’s #1 fan in the press, so to speak?

This new to me AFB quotes in the press meme is why I’m so curious to know how those services found you?

Hmm, maybe we can start an “AFB in the Press” thread.  I’m really surprised by this and would be curious to see more examples. What do you say?

All you whiners READ THIS .  RD is earns my adoration every time.  Excerpt:

Mike Elgan, a former editor of Windows Magazine, has recently gone on an anti-Apple rampage, posting countless articles on why users should torment themselves with fear, doubt, and uncertainty about Apple. Elgan’s desperation is so overreaching that it is, like Rob Enderle, an embarrassment even to Windows Enthusiasts.