Thought it would be worth starting a thread to get AFBers impressions of Leopard.

I was a little freaked out that Front Row is now Apple TV on a Mac…

But am still playing with everything and testing.

Re: Leopard Impressions…

[quote author=“rattyuk”]I was a little freaked out that Front Row is now Apple TV on a Mac…

No YouTube on it though, although I’m sure it will be added very quickly with a hack

Also - and I’m being very picky here - what are Apple thinking about with the folder designs - they look like some tacky third party hack.

But it is very fast and all the bits of software I need seem to run without issues - so that is cool.

Front Row now works (without any hacks) on my Mac Pro. Hide and Show Front Row is the first Keyboard preference.

Leopard will have a much bigger financial impact than I previously thought.  I qualify my comments by stating that my copy of Leopard does not arrive until next Wednesday.  But I just received a two hour briefing from a trusted source.

One example of what I mean.  iChat is going to sell Macs.  Yes iChat.  When coupled with Screen Sharing and Back to my Mac, Leopard delivers a new very easy to use communication tool.  Employees of a company, scattered around the globe can use this tool for collaboration; one person can get tech support from another with this tool; a salesman can make a remote presentataion with it.  Each of these can of course be done now, without Leopard, if you are Steve Wozniak.  But the genius of Leopard is it makes it possible for ordinary shoe-clerks to deploy these labor saving, efficiency delivering tools.

Forget the lower cost of ownership, forget the freedom from attacks, forget the better reliability.  The reason to deploy Macs in your company is your people will get more work done.

[quote author=“capablanca”]
Forget the lower cost of ownership, forget the freedom from attacks, forget the better reliability.  The reason to deploy Macs in your company is your people will get more work done.

That’s always been the case.

I am not having fun so far ... my Powermac G5 Dual 2.0 now crashes repeatedly, drives do not mount ... cannot shut down without powering off.

Not good ... I may have to reinstall by wiping everything ... music, pictures, docs were backed up ... still a major pain.

[quote author=“capablanca”]Leopard will have a much bigger financial impact than I previously thought.  I qualify my comments by stating that my copy of Leopard does not arrive until next Wednesday.  But I just received a two hour briefing from a trusted source.

One example of what I mean.  iChat is going to sell Macs.  Yes iChat.  When coupled with Screen Sharing and Back to my Mac, Leopard delivers a new very easy to use communication tool.  Employees of a company, scattered around the globe can use this tool for collaboration; one person can get tech support from another with this tool; a salesman can make a remote presentataion with it.  Each of these can of course be done now, without Leopard, if you are Steve Wozniak.  But the genius of Leopard is it makes it possible for ordinary shoe-clerks to deploy these labor saving, efficiency delivering tools.

Forget the lower cost of ownership, forget the freedom from attacks, forget the better reliability.  The reason to deploy Macs in your company is your people will get more work done.

The main problem is how to get Macs into the corporations.  If you’re the president of a small business, then it’s not a problem.  However, in large corporations, the IT guys are gonna hate the idea that a lot of their jobs are going to be on the line if the Macs don’t require their services as much.
Do you think that larger corporations are just going to dump their PCs and bring in thousands of Macs.  I’d really enjoy seeing the New World Order of Macs. 

I sure wish it would be done, but do you think it’s likely to happen?  I don’t know how corporate purchases take place.  I always imagined there’s some sort of kickbacks or favors that get contracts and not necessarily purchasing the best computers.  Even if that isn’t true, there’s still the problem of competing with Dell which is willing to undercut to razor thin margins just to move hardware.    It’s not the case that the office staff that uses the computers have any input to choose what they would like to use.

[quote author=“Derrick”]I am not having fun so far ... my Powermac G5 Dual 2.0 now crashes repeatedly, drives do not mount ... cannot shut down without powering off.

This is what I feared might be the case. There seemed to be concerns in the run-up to launch that Leopard was a little more buggy than previous versions (apart from the original Beta and X.1). I’m sure a lot of these bugs will get squashed fairly quickly, but as I had suggested before, SJ would rather see it go out with some bugs than announce a delay.

Out of interest, did you do an upgrade install on existing Tiger, an archive install, or a clean install into a new partition?

When my copy arrives I plan to do a clean install into a fresh partition. I have my User data on a separate partition which I’ll soft-link into at the /Users level. If I have any problems I can then boot into my existing Tiger partition, which also links to my User data at the /Users level.

[quote author=“Derrick”]I am not having fun so far ... my Powermac G5 Dual 2.0 now crashes repeatedly, drives do not mount ... cannot shut down without powering off.

Not good ... I may have to reinstall by wiping everything ... music, pictures, docs were backed up ... still a major pain.

Try an “archive and install” instead, which will do a fresh system install while keeping all of your settings.

[quote author=“Tommo_UK”][quote author=“Derrick”]I am not having fun so far ... my Powermac G5 Dual 2.0 now crashes repeatedly, drives do not mount ... cannot shut down without powering off.

Not good ... I may have to reinstall by wiping everything ... music, pictures, docs were backed up ... still a major pain.

Try an “archive and install” instead, which will do a fresh system install while keeping all of your settings.

I did do an ‘archive and install’ the first time ... now I have done a complete reinstall by erasing the hard drive first.  Things seem to be a bit more stable ... however, I am still having issues when trying to copy my iTunes library from backup to an internal drive ... I keep thinking that even if there is a problem with the drive ... it should not crash the entire OS.

real bug in Leopard for some users… about 2500 posters on the Apple discussion boards with blue screen of death  

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1195031

Sounds to me from the discussions that a lot of users are not running disk utility before their upgrades.  Very important.

A very recent post states (oddly in Spanish) that the hard drive must be called Macintosh HD for the upgrade to succeed. It has not received any reply so far though.

El disco duro tiene que llamarse “Macintosh HD” es algo que ha resuelto el gran gurÑŠ gaiteiro el primer dнa de la instalaciуn.

[quote author=“SNIPUS”]real bug in Leopard for some users… about 2500 posters on the Apple discussion boards with blue screen of death  

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1195031

I think that the vast majority of these problems relate to Desktop “haxies”.  Notice that most of the problems have been solved by removing some Prefpane files relating to the ClearDock application.

I think this is a golden rule, don’t try and do an upgrade or archive install without first removing any desktop hacking tools

Filemaker 9 NOT compatible with Leopard

I have not yet bought Leopard: not at home and not at my Graph dep at work. reason?  Leopard is having difficulties with Filemaker 9!  We use later for our content management and deployment and I think it is a somewhat ridiculous thing that Filemaker is 9 is NOT compatible at this moment…. hope fix or update comes quick.

Cheers,

MacB