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Down and Dirty: UK, Germany iPhone Recap
Posted: 03 December 2007 06:32 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 106 ]
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Apple threatens Danish carrier over iPhone sales

Apple is threatening Danish wireless distributor Telekжden with legal action, after the chain has been selling unlocked iPhones without the company’s permission. Politeken.dk reports that Telekжden is selling the units for almost 6,000 kr (~$1200 US) through its website, unlocked so that they may be used with any GSM-based carrier, which counters Apple’s current business model for the device. Apple intends to release the iPhone in Denmark under the same business model – providing a locked version to a preferred GSM carrier – despite running into numerous legal hitches in both France and Germany.

Lawyer Johan Lшje – Apple’s Danish legal representative – claims in a letter to Telekжden that they are selling illegally imported units without Apple’s permission. Apple insists that the distributor signs a legally binding document that would force Telekжden to cease selling the modified iPhones, as well as handing over any and all stock of the devices to Lшje, without compensation. Apple is also seeking damages and legal fees, and want to bind the company from ever selling Apple products again, unless prior permission is given.

“We see Apple’s move, and the attitude upon which it’s based, as a threat against the free market rules. Goods should be able to travel freely, and be priced freely within Europe,” says head of sales in Telekжden, Klaus Engelbrecht. “We don’t believe we’ve done anything wrong. We don’t need express permission from Nokia to sell a Nokia phone”.

Although Apple gave a deadline of 4PM local time, Telekжden is not expected to respond in an official manner until next week. When asked for a comment, Lшje said Apple’s motives are based on iPhone imports outside of Europe being illegal, and explained that he could not comment further on the matter.

The Danish Telekaeden website now says [url=http://butik.tkmobil.dk/Butik/Produkter/Vare.asp?VareID=5318&E=0
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The Danish National Consumer Agency probably bought the last stock of iPhones in Denmark for testing purpose - and yes, they voted it the best smartphone on the Danish market - sorry it’s now -  the best smartphone that was on the Danish market bug eyed

This is a stupid and ridiculous overreaction from Apple. Just get you ***s into these market and stop treating them as second class citizens!

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Posted: 04 December 2007 02:01 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 107 ]
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At last, I’m back with my MBP without the helicopter sounds and running Leopard smile

Found this quite amusing

French Foreign Affairs Minister Bernard Kouchner showing off his iPhone to his peers

OT: why does inserting an Img differ from inserting a URL? It’s always a pain/5 minute struggle frown

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Posted: 04 December 2007 04:03 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 108 ]
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Great photo, MaCroissant!

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Posted: 04 December 2007 04:06 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 109 ]
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[quote author=“MaCroissant”]Found this quite amusing
French Foreign Affairs Minister Bernard Kouchner showing off his iPhone to his peers

Lovely photo.. perhaps he’s saying “with my iPhone I can check our country’s foreign reserves with a single flick of my finger! Try that on your Siemens.big grin

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Posted: 04 December 2007 04:12 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 110 ]
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[quote author=“Tommo_UK”][quote author=“MaCroissant”]Found this quite amusing
French Foreign Affairs Minister Bernard Kouchner showing off his iPhone to his peers

Lovely photo.. perhaps he’s saying “with my iPhone I can check our country’s foreign reserves with a single flick of my finger! Try that on your Siemens.big grin

The critics, just few months ago, was that the French gov officials should stop using Blackberries as their sensitive content would be stored on RIMM’s US located servers. So in with the iPfune big grin

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Posted: 04 December 2007 04:12 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 111 ]
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[quote author=“Tommo_UK”][quote author=“MaCroissant”]Found this quite amusing
French Foreign Affairs Minister Bernard Kouchner showing off his iPhone to his peers

Lovely photo.. perhaps he’s saying “with my iPhone I can check our country’s foreign reserves with a single flick of my finger! Try that on your Siemens.big grin

and Kouchner got this “mine is bigger - I mean better - than yours” look while Steinmeier gives his best “wait ‘till you see my Nokia N95” razz

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Posted: 04 December 2007 05:37 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 112 ]
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Interesting twist in the Vodafone vs. T-mobile case

T-Mobile versicherte an Eides statt, dass es das iPhone von Apple zu einem Einkaufspreis beziehe, der “mehrere hundert Euro” ÑŒber den 399 Euro liege, fÑŒr den T-Mobile das Handy verkauft. Damit sei das iPhone ein subventioniertes Handy, fÑŒr das ein Zweijahresvertrag handelsÑŒblich und zulдssig sei.

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T-Mobile stated it buys the iPhone from Apple for “several hundred euros” above the 399Ђ price tag. Thus the iPhone is a subsidised cell phone for which a 2 year contract is the norm

T Mobile’s lawyer probably count the shared revenue in the aquisition costs (!)

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Posted: 04 December 2007 05:41 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 113 ]
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[quote author=“MaCroissant”]T-Mobile stated it buys the iPhone from Apple for “several hundred euros” above the 399Ђ price tag. Thus the iPhone is a subsidised cell phone for which a 2 year contract is the norm

T Mobile’s lawyer probably count the shared revenue in the aquisition costs (!)

Sounds logical and is probably ample basis for a precedent that can be considered elsewhere.

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Posted: 04 December 2007 09:49 AM [ Ignore ] [ # 114 ]
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[quote author=“lumi”][quote author=“MaCroissant”]T-Mobile stated it buys the iPhone from Apple for “several hundred euros” above the 399Ђ price tag. Thus the iPhone is a subsidised cell phone for which a 2 year contract is the norm

T Mobile’s lawyer probably count the shared revenue in the aquisition costs (!)

Sounds logical and is probably ample basis for a precedent that can be considered elsewhere.

Therefore, Telefonica shares up. Pitty I sold them when I was about to be forced away from trading three weeks ago cry

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