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Posted: 22 June 2009 03:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Whatever #‘s were sold it was a great weekend for Apple and ATT. Those aftermarket 3g units passed down to make way for the latest and greatest are pure gold for ATT. New 2 year contract, no subsidy to Apple. Or maybe there are things we don’t know on aftermarket issues.

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Posted: 22 June 2009 07:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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W O W !!!!

Marketwatch headline just now

More than 1 million iPhone 3GS models sold in first three days, Apple says

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Posted: 22 June 2009 07:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Apple Press Release this morning is quoting Steve Jobs

’‘Customers are voting and the iPhone is winning,” said Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO.

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Posted: 22 June 2009 09:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Well I was wrong and I don’t mind.

I still think that those 1 million iPhones were not all delivered in customer’s hands.


The Munster report had an interesting statistic.  That is 56% of iPhone owner were upgrading. If that number holds, that would mean that Apple will sell 10 million iPhones 3GS in the next 12 months.

Add to that the 30% who are getting their first, and you can easily see another 12 million.  In this economy that is amazing.

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Posted: 22 June 2009 09:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Maybe they will sell 1M every three days or every week for 52M. Sponge,  I think your 12M guess is a bit low.  Apple sold over 15.048M 3Gs as of last quarter so if we assume another 3-4 this quarter then that is 18-19M per year.  The smart phone market is estimated to grow over the next year according to Gartner

The phone vendors are putting a lot of effort into smartphones, and Gartner is still bullish about sales during 2009. It expects the market to grow by 28%, compared with a 4% drop for the overall mobile phone market.

If Apple sales grow in line with the market then we should 24M in sales.

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Posted: 22 June 2009 12:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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omacvi - 22 June 2009 09:04 AM

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Well I was wrong and I don’t mind.

I still think that those 1 million iPhones were not all delivered in customer’s hands.


The Munster report had an interesting statistic.  That is 56% of iPhone owner were upgrading. If that number holds, that would mean that Apple will sell 10 million iPhones 3GS in the next 12 months.

Add to that the 30% who are getting their first, and you can easily see another 12 million.  In this economy that is amazing.

Not to belabor the point, but you claimed the company didn’t make enough to sell even 500k. Trying to track sales (and shipments) to so many points of retail sales in eight countries is nearly impossible without non-disclosed information.

I expect sales to near one million units and the results surpass my expectations. I haven’t read GM’s report, but I suspect a goodly percentage of buyers were owners of the original iPhone coming in for a refresh.

But consider this: If roughly half of 3G S iPhone buyers were upgrading their gear, there’s a half million or so older iPhones finding new uses elsewhere and each of those new users will be accessing the Web and taking advantage of the app store. In the end, expanding the platform, the percent of iPhone users among smart phone users using the Web from their devices and the literal explosion of users now accessing the app store will do wonders for Apple’s market position and developer interests.

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Posted: 22 June 2009 01:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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pats - 22 June 2009 09:22 AM

Maybe they will sell 1M every three days or every week for 52M. Sponge,  I think your 12M guess is a bit low.  Apple sold over 15.048M 3Gs as of last quarter so if we assume another 3-4 this quarter then that is 18-19M per year.  The smart phone market is estimated to grow over the next year according to Gartner

The phone vendors are putting a lot of effort into smartphones, and Gartner is still bullish about sales during 2009. It expects the market to grow by 28%, compared with a 4% drop for the overall mobile phone market.

If Apple sales grow in line with the market then we should 24M in sales.

Agreed.

12 million is a bit low. The only think to slightly hamper the sales totals are legacy iPhones recycled to new users, which in the long-run is a benefit to Apple and the iPhone developer community. Let’s remember, too, AT&T is a big winner as well. The challenge AT&T faces is I don’t think iPhone popularity and the extends to service carrier loyalty. AT&T is facing a big problem in terms of possible customer attrition when the exclusive deal for the iPhone ends. It’s in AT&T interests now to keep Apple and iPhone users as happy as possible. Let’s see how the company plays its hand while it’s in a position of strength and growing market leadership.

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Posted: 22 June 2009 03:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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The sponge is in line for the 3Gs

it is in the middle of the day and people are waiting for an hour to get a Phone and some for 30 minutes just to get in and buy a laptop.

Now if only the market would cooperate and we will see 200 sooner.

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Posted: 22 June 2009 04:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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omacvi - 22 June 2009 09:04 AM

Good Morning Boys and Girls


Well I was wrong and I don’t mind.

I still think that those 1 million iPhones were not all delivered in customer’s hands.


The Munster report had an interesting statistic.  That is 56% of iPhone owner were upgrading. If that number holds, that would mean that Apple will sell 10 million iPhones 3GS in the next 12 months.

Add to that the 30% who are getting their first, and you can easily see another 12 million.  In this economy that is amazing.

Not to belabor the point, but you claimed the company didn’t make enough to sell even 500k. Trying to track sales (and shipments) to so many points of retail sales in eight countries is nearly impossible without non-disclosed information.

I expect sales to near one million units and the results surpass my expectations. I haven’t read GM’s report, but I suspect a goodly percentage of buyers were owners of the original iPhone coming in for a refresh.

But consider this: If roughly half of 3G S iPhone buyers were upgrading their gear, there’s a half million or so older iPhones finding new uses elsewhere and each of those new users will be accessing the Web and taking advantage of the app store. In the end, expanding the platform, the percent of iPhone users among smart phone users using the Web from their devices and the literal explosion of users now accessing the app store will do wonders for Apple’s market position and developer interests.

None of us know how many numbers were truly shipped.  But when they only sell 300 at a store and run out, it is hard to see how they got the 1 million number.

It think they will sell over 22 million in the next 12 months

I am still in line almost an hour later

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Posted: 22 June 2009 05:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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omacvi - 22 June 2009 04:35 PM

None of us know how many numbers were truly shipped.  But when they only sell 300 at a store and run out, it is hard to see how they got the 1 million number.

It think they will sell over 22 million in the next 12 months

I am still in line almost an hour later

When AT&T announced it had “hundreds of thousands” of pre-orders, it was a darn good clue. Add to that the expanded points of retail purchase, channel fill to all domestic retailers as well as all of the international partners and it was relatively easy to reach the one million unit sales mark with strong sales most likely continuing throughout this week and into the weekend.

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Posted: 22 June 2009 06:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Navigon GPS Navi iPhone App: Europe-Only Maps, $95 “Special Introduction Price”

Europe only for now, but no word on monthly fees.

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Posted: 22 June 2009 06:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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A Fun read

Find My iPhone Saved My Phone From a Thief

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Posted: 23 June 2009 11:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Smartphone Survey Finds Good News for Apple, Bad for Blackberry

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Bad news for Blackberry: Forty percent of smartphone users who don’t already own an iPhone said they would switch to the Apple handset for their next purchase, nearly three times the percentage of non-Blackberry users who would switch to a Research in Motion handset.

In an online survey conducted May 19 to June 8, market researcher Crowd Science found that only 14 percent of non-Blackberry users wanted to switch to that family of devices.

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Posted: 23 June 2009 11:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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AT&T Navigator turn-by-turn GPS solution hits the App Store

AT&T on Tuesday became the latest player to attempt to capitalize on what’s sure to become a multi-million dollar market for iPhone-based turn-by-turn GPS driving solutions, launching its AT&T Navigator software on the App Store.

Free app, $10/month to use it

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Posted: 23 June 2009 11:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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Report details Apple’s unusual veil of secrecy

By Katie Marsal [AppleInsider]

With Apple again failing to advise shareholders that chief executive Steve Jobs underwent major surgery, the New York Times has published a profile of the company’s unparalleled aura of secrecy, which stems from products to personnel and everything in between.

The newspaper cited Regis McKenna, a marketing veteran who advised Apple on its approach to dealing with the media back in the 80s, as saying the company’s tight-lipped culture began to take shape in earnest around the release of the original Macintosh back in 1984.

“It really started around trying to keep the surprise aspect to product launches, which can have a lot of power,” he said, noting that rivals like Microsoft and Sony were all too familiar with plans for the first Mac long before chief executive Steve Jobs pulled back the black cloth.

These days, Apple employees working on secret projects must “pass through a maze of security doors, swiping their badges again and again and finally entering a numeric code to reach their offices,” a former employee who recently worked in one of these areas told the Times.

Once inside these top-secret areas, employees are often monitored by surveillance cameras as they work. And those testing the most sensitive projects are instructed “to cover up devices with black cloaks when they are working on them, and turn on a red warning light when devices are unmasked so that everyone knows to be extra-careful.”

These measures often result in employees learning about new Apple products for the first time alongside the general public, like former systems engineer Edward Eigerman, who along with his co-workers, had no clue the company was about reinvent the music industry with the iPod until the day it launched.

“No one that I worked with saw that coming,” he said.

According to the Times, Eigerman was fired from Apple four years ago for his role in an incident that saw one of his colleagues leak a pre-release copy of some unannounced software product to an Apple business customer as a favor. He notes that the company actively attempts to sniff out leakers and terminate their employment.

Apple marketing chief Phil Schiller is said to be among the members of Apple’s top brass who play an integral role in helping to track down employees who disclose advance product information to members of the press. At times, it’s reported, he has held internal product briefings in which he’s disseminated inaccurate details of an upcoming product’s prices or features, then attempts to track down the source of news reports that print the incorrect information.

The Times even recalls a widely publicized case five years ago in which Apple attempted to subpoenaed AppleInsider’s Kasper Jade and the PowerPage’s Jason O’Grady to force them to identify sources who provided accurate details of an unreleased hardware product code-named Asteroid. The journalists refused to cooperate and instead enlisted the services of the Electronic Frontier Foundation as their counsel.

Eventually, the case went to court with Apple arguing that online journalists shouldn’t be afforded the same protections as print journalists. A three-judge panel in the California Court of Appeals ultimately sided unanimously in favor Jade and O’Grady, ruling that they were indeed entitled to the same protections as conventional reporters and would not have to identify their sources. During the proceedings, the court made it clear to Apple that it had no grounds to railroad online reporters into doing their dirty work of uncovering leakers.

Apple declined to appeal and EFF later sued the company for attorney’s fees. The court, in an effort to deter Apple from filing future cases of little merit, awarded EFF more than two times the attorney’s fees it had asked for, which resulted in Apple paying a $700,000 lump sum that went back into the firm to help defend others who may unjustly come under the heavy hand of big corporations.

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For those interested, the development of Asteroid (pictured above)—a FireWire jam box Apple intended to market alongside its Garage Band software—was later terminated due to “poor initial execution,” according to a person familiar with the matter.

Apple now employs alternative measures in its attempts to keep product plans secret, such as filtering out leakers internally through an in-house information securities division or intentionally misleading Wall Street analysts who, like journalists, attempt to predict the company’s next moves in research notes to their paying clients.

Gene Munster, an analyst for Piper Jaffray frequently cited by AppleInsider, told the Times that he often “jokes with other colleagues covering the company about how Apple routinely ‘jams the frequencies,’ or gives them misinformation to deter them for zeroing in on details of future products or directions it hopes to keep confidential. For example. Munster said that four years ago he was told by flat out by an Apple executive that the company saw no interest in developing a budget iPod that lacked a display screen. A few months later, the iPod shuffle was introduced at Macworld Expo.

But Apple’s veil of secrecy covers more than just products. It extends to the company’s executives, a matter which is now coming under increased scrutiny given recent reports that Steve Jobs underwent a second major surgery without disclosing such information to shareholders who believe he’s vital to the continued success of the company and the strength of its share price.

At issue is whether Apple legally sidestepped the responsibility of having to disclose Jobs’ recent liv

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